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It would be really interesting leaving Camerupt with a single weakness (curiously enough ground), two immunities and 5 resistances; pretty good. If this hypothetical m-evolution got a boost to it's defences (say 30 points to each one) it would become a decent wall. Wish I'd thought of this when the Theorymon thread was still open.
 
DuskSoul said:
It would be really interesting leaving Camerupt with a single weakness (curiously enough ground), two immunities and 5 resistances; pretty good. If this hypothetical m-evolution got a boost to it's defences (say 30 points to each one) it would become a decent wall. Wish I'd thought of this when the Theorymon thread was still open.
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It still didn't make the cut sadly enough. Sent that in through my first nomination and it never made it in :I
 
Ash Borer said:
because it's SR weak and weak to two stellar types, water and ground. Fire may have a wide number of resistances but defensive fire-types in most metas are few and often reserved for special application, giving fire-type a fairy resistance was not a poor competitive decision whatsoever. Charizard-X, Heatran, Ho-Oh, Arcanine, and really not that much else have been really successful as defensive firetypes, and even they have to wrestle with their cirppling SR weaknesses.
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The reason few fire types are successful defensively is not because of their type, but because of their stats since most of them are geared towards offense.
Many ice types on the other hand have excellent defensive stats and support movepools but can't be used to their full potential because they don't have enough resistances.

Fire already had five extremely useful resistances and among the types that are weak to Stealth Rock it was unquestionably the best one defensively.
Its worst weakness, water, was a problem in BW because of perma-weather but that's gone now too.
The WoW buff further improved fire types defensively as they can absorb that move, which is everywhere now.
So yes, giving fire an extra resistance compared to types that needed it more (ice, grass, bug and psychic come to mind) was an extremely poor choice from a competitive standpoint and on top of that it makes no sense flavor-wise.

A common joke is that the only reason fire resists fairy was to make Mega Charizard X and Mega Blaziken, the two most marketed megas, more appealing. I'm starting to believe it's more than just a joke.
 
Rotosect said:
The reason few fire types are successful defensively is not because of their type, but because of their stats since most of them are geared towards offense.
Many ice types on the other hand have excellent defensive stats and support movepools but can't be used to their full potential because they don't have enough resistances.

Fire already had five extremely useful resistances and among the types that are weak to Stealth Rock it was unquestionably the best one defensively.
Its worst weakness, water, was a problem in BW because of perma-weather but that's gone now too.
The WoW buff further improved fire types defensively as they can absorb that move, which is everywhere now.
So yes, giving fire an extra resistance compared to types that needed it more (ice, grass, bug and psychic come to mind) was an extremely poor choice from a competitive standpoint and on top of that it makes no sense flavor-wise.

A common joke is that the only reason fire resists fairy was to make Mega Charizard X and Mega Blaziken, the two most marketed megas, more appealing. I'm starting to believe it's more than just a joke.
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At least they didn't make Fairies weak to Fire on top of that, otherwise it'd kinda defeat the purpose of their Obvious Rule Patch status.
 
Rotosect said:
The reason few fire types are successful defensively is not because of their type, but because of their stats since most of them are geared towards offense.
Many ice types on the other hand have excellent defensive stats and support movepools but can't be used to their full potential because they don't have enough resistances.
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Earthquake is the most common move in nearly every metagame with SR in close tow, that is the fundamental issue for defnesive fire types. If you honestly try and refute such a plain fact staring you right in the face, you should stop posting for a while, man. Yes its true there arent a massive amount of defensive fire types stat wise but still mons like Ho-oh, arceus-fire, reshiram, moltres, Arcanine, Volcarona, Rotom-H and other fire types with decent defensive potential and reliable recovery have been held back significantly to the point of inability to act defensively by their stealth rock or earthquak weakness. Rotom-H has an amazing profile of resistances, but even still its 2x SR weak makes it just lame defensively.

Fairy typing is dominant, handing out more resistances to it regardless of flavour or whatever bullshit is a perfectly reasonable action to help improve the meta
 
On one thing he's right; Ice, defensively speaking, is held back by his non existing resistances. I don't get why GF didn't buff this too other than Dark, don't they realize that a lot of fan favourites (hell, even a mega) are ignored competitively because of how much Ice sucks, at least in defence?
 
why do you think primal kyoger and groundon are lv 100 when you face because idk why they are. what do you think.
 
Der Richter said:
On one thing he's right; Ice, defensively speaking, is held back by his non existing resistances. I don't get why GF didn't buff this too other than Dark, don't they realize that a lot of fan favourites (hell, even a mega) are ignored competitively because of how much Ice sucks, at least in defence?
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Friendly reminder that the only two OU Ice types are Mamoswine and something that would usually be in Ubers
 
RASFA said:
what are you taking about
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Same question back. Your posts are - consistently - nearly impossible to read. Notice that everyone else in this thread, or for that matter, this forum entirely, put actual thought into spelling, punctuation, capitalization and grammar. Your posts stick out, and not in a good way. This is a little sad, considering that you do bring up interesting points and good arguments, but it requires people to decipher your language first. Couldn't you please put a little more work into your typing?

Also, the Lumiose City trick is a way to abuse the Day Care to power-level Pokémon. Since you can go in circles around Prism Tower in Lumiose, you can stick something underneath the Control Stick of your 3DS, so your character will keep walking round and round even when you're not around. Since Day Care levelling is dependent on your step count, you can jam the control stick to the left or right, circling the Prism Tower when you go to school/work/sleep. When you return/wake up, your character will have biked around for miles, and the Pokémon you left in Day Care will have gained an enormous amount of experience and levels.
 
I hope that 2 gen starters will reacive megas: by the look og Meganium,as sceptile he can be dragon\grass type to or because of the flower grass\poison.
farligator can be a dargon to or maybe dark type,so as typhlosion can be dragon,dark or even ghost with his fire type.
but you all can agree with me that in some weird way the all three can be dragon type or grass\poison, water\dragon,fire\dark.
 
I'm really hoping they give mega evolutions to both metagross and salamence.
I'd love for those two to be top-tier OU threats once again.
 
XDPokemon said:
I hope that 2 gen starters will reacive megas: by the look og Meganium,as sceptile he can be dragon\grass type to or because of the flower grass\poison.
farligator can be a dargon to or maybe dark type,so as typhlosion can be dragon,dark or even ghost with his fire type.
but you all can agree with me that in some weird way the all three can be dragon type or grass\poison, water\dragon,fire\dark.
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Seems cool but what do the generation 2 starters have to do with Hoenn at all.
 
XDPokemon said:
I hope that 2 gen starters will reacive megas: by the look og Meganium,as sceptile he can be dragon\grass type to or because of the flower grass\poison.
farligator can be a dargon to or maybe dark type,so as typhlosion can be dragon,dark or even ghost with his fire type.
but you all can agree with me that in some weird way the all three can be dragon type or grass\poison, water\dragon,fire\dark.
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Feraligatr HAS to have the Dragon type, just for the sake of being actually a reptile. And besides, water is one of the types that actually improves combined with Dragon. Not everything becomes better by adding it (right, Sceptile?).
Meganium Grass/Poison makes a lot of sense, but could be redundant, having already the likes of Mega Venusaur and Amoongus.
As for Typhlosion, I dunno, I would be satisfied even if he just stayed pure Fire, but had some huge offensive buff.

Snotjoch said:
Seems cool but what do the generation 2 starters have to do with Hoenn at all.
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Well, basically the same Kanto starters had to do with Kalos.
 
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XDPokemon said:
I hope that 2 gen starters will reacive megas: by the look og Meganium,as sceptile he can be dragon\grass type to or because of the flower grass\poison.
farligator can be a dargon to or maybe dark type,so as typhlosion can be dragon,dark or even ghost with his fire type.
but you all can agree with me that in some weird way the all three can be dragon type or grass\poison, water\dragon,fire\dark.
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I'd personally hope for Mono-Grass, Fire-Ground and Water-Dragon/Dark/Fighting/seriously there's so many things gator can be why didn't it have a secondary type in the first place
 
Snotjoch said:
Seems cool but what do the generation 2 starters have to do with Hoenn at all.
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some pages before some people talked about it so i wanted to say my opinion as well.

Der Richter said:
Feraligatr HAS to have the Dragon type, just for the sake of being actually a reptile. And besides, water is one of the types that actually improves combined with Dragon. Not everything becomes better by adding it (right, Sceptile?).
Meganium Grass/Poison makes a lot of sense, but could be redundant, having already the likes of Mega Venusaur and Amoongus.
As for Typhlosion, I dunno, I would be satisfied even if he just stayed pure Fire, but had some huge offensive buff.
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of course i know that adding a dragon type to any type doesnt fit well,i said the look of Meganium looks like a lizard so a dragon type can fit his look but a poison type can fit his flower.

I'd personally hope for Mono-Grass, Fire-Ground and Water-Dragon/Dark/Fighting/seriously there's so many things gator can be why didn't it have a secondary type in the first place

mono grass type isn't really fit Meganium very much and his chance ti be a thread is to add a type that will fit him well.
 
XDPokemon said:
mono grass type isn't really fit Meganium very much and his chance ti be a thread is to add a type that will fit him well.
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I'm trying to think of a type that would fit it well and not make it a venu-clone. Fairy, maybe...? I don't know, I just feel it's better as mono-grass. That's my gut feeling.
 
Mm, maybe.
Though the pattern so far is that only one of each starter trio changes their types on Mega Evolution, and both of those so far - Sceptile and 'Zard X - have become Dragon-Type. So unless this is just coincidence I think a more realistic stance would be Mono-Grass, Mono-Fire and Water/Dragon.
 
XDPokemon said:
some pages before some people talked about it so i wanted to say my opinion as well.



of course i know that adding a dragon type to any type doesnt fit well,i said the look of Meganium looks like a lizard so a dragon type can fit his look but a poison type can fit his flower.

I'd personally hope for Mono-Grass, Fire-Ground and Water-Dragon/Dark/Fighting/seriously there's so many things gator can be why didn't it have a secondary type in the first place

mono grass type isn't really fit Meganium very much and his chance ti be a thread is to add a type that will fit him well.
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I've always thought that Meganium looked more like a dinosaur than a lizard, especially when you put it next to the ice fossil from Kalos.

I was thinking Grass/Fairy since it seems to fit the bill with the antenna and flower.
 
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