Anyone want to help me make a threat list for the metagame?
I came up with this so far, I'll be putting what beats it later when I'm not lazy.
Kyogre- Exeggutor, Ludicolo, Blissey, Palkia, Abomasnow
Abamasnow is only to a "certain degree" because it's slow, usually slower than Kyogre, has naturally low defenses,and might not survive a full HP Water Spout or Blizzard/Ice Beam.
Palkia almost completely walls Kyogre because it's one of the only 3 Dragons not weak to ice, double Resists Water Spout, neutral from Thunder, AND it laughs at Signal Beam (even w/o a resist). He also gets his own power up from the rain.
I honestly can't say Exeggutor is a "perfect counter". It gets destroyed by Blizzard and Ice Beam because of it's weakness and "Spinda" Sp. Defense. It's also
easily OHKOed by Signal Beam. That same special defense causes him to be dented pretty badly by Water Spout at full HP. Most of this is assuming that rain is up, but even with sun, it will end in a similar result (although...he might take a non-max HP Water Spout in the sun pretty well).
Exeggutor does have a Grass Knot under it's belt, but will rarely be able to get out into the sun unless his partner actually uses the move Sunny Day. It's not that he is a bad idea, just not an "un flawed" Kyogre counter.
To add to that list:
Cresselia
Hippowdon (horribly uncommen unless someone pulls him because he is the slowest weather inducer).
Clefable
Azelf
Golduck (I have seen people use him to fit the 2-Uber clause)
Shedinja
Azelf hands down. Higher base attack + higher base power.
And azelf is too predictable. Snorlax can be used for many things. Trickroom, bulkyness, earthquake, 300 power boom. I pick Snorlax
Thx for the help. Snorlax is also pretty predictable as well. Seeing Snorlax on HG/SS usually means either Curslax, Selfdestruct, or both. I'm going to make the rest of the team first, and I guess I'll go with the one that fits better.
