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So been using a gimic gallade which kind of sucks but doesn't because it's surprsing
252 Atk 252 Spe Adamant Nautre Item @ Focus Sash
Ablity @ Inner Foucs
Moveset
-Close combat
-Destiny Bond
-Encore/taunt
-Magic Coat
Bounce back SR then encore them if you don't mind the hazard being used or taunt it there after it's really up to you, destiny bond when it's time to die and close combat just so you can kill something.
252 Atk 252 Spe Adamant Nautre Item @ Focus Sash
Ablity @ Inner Foucs
Moveset
-Close combat
-Destiny Bond
-Encore/taunt
-Magic Coat
Bounce back SR then encore them if you don't mind the hazard being used or taunt it there after it's really up to you, destiny bond when it's time to die and close combat just so you can kill something.
I think Electivire gets less credit than it deserves... especially with Quiver Dance Venomoth (and somewhat CM Cresselia) being so prominent in the meta. He is basically a Physical Manectric, and has great coverage with his decent movepool.
Electivire is not a counter to any of those threats. In fact, he's not a counter to anything. He was a usable sweeper in Gen 4 because he thrived on Electric attacks aimed at Gyarados but now with far more powerful threats available in Gen 5 he's been relegated (and rightly so imo) to the lower tiers. But without a common 4x Electric weakness to exploit and come in on (and to an extent, because of team preview...) Electivire is simply not good enough. Without the Motor Drive boost he is outsped, and he was already being out-damaged so there's not a lot going for Electivire even in RU. I feel he will drop to NU unfortunately.
I doubt Electivire will even make the cut-off for NU tbh.
Not because it's terrible, but because people are too embarrassed to use it, since it has got the n00b reputation that it has.
Not because it's terrible, but because people are too embarrassed to use it, since it has got the n00b reputation that it has.
Then I recommend the Life orb set with 104 Evs in speed, unless the toxic user is faster eg- Gligar, Moltres or you happen to switch into a toxic, I can't help you there unless you also have a cleric on your team.
name: Physical attacker
move 1: Outrage / Dragon Claw
move 2: Earthquake
move 3: Suckerpunch
move 4: Taunt
Item: Life orb
Nature: Adamant
Ability: Rough Skin
EVs: 152 HP/ 252 Att / 104 Spe
I was thinking about how a Substitute set would work
name: Substitute
move 1: Substitute
move 2: Earthquake
move 3: Dragon tail / Dragon claw
move 4: Glare / Suckerpunch
Item: Leftovers
Nature: Adamant
Ability: Rough Skin
EVs: 152 HP/ 252 Att / 104 Spe
This set works a lot like other substitute sets, where you switch into something you threaten, set up a sub while they switch out their pokemon and switch in their Druddigon counter, from there you can proceed to counter them appropriately
If they switch in a Steel hit them with with EQ, if they switch in a physical wall like tangela or gligar, phaze them out with Dragon tail or just hit them with stab dragon claw. I don't think Tangela can even break your sub.
Gligar with no investment in attack can break your subs though , unless you run max 248 EVs in HP and 120 Evs in Def with impish nature ( I could be wrong, I'm terrible with damage calculations). 248 EVs in HP allows you to create 4 subs, leaving you with 1 hp.
The last slot really depends on your needs or your teams needs, Glare is a interesting option as it can paralyze the opposing pokemon if Dragon tail, Dragon claw and EQ happen to be bad options to use against your opponent at the time, Paralyze is almost always useful. Glare being a normal move, Ground types aren't immune to it like T-wave which make this unique and since Glare has been boosted to 90% accuracy, the move is more useful then not.
Suckerpunch is there as priority to hit faster pokemons, Toxic can be used in the last slot be but there are better pokemon which can spread toxic, mainly the 3 normal special walls.
The speed EVS allow you to outspeed the like of licklicky audio, tangela clefable and bulky ghost, preventing them from status-ing you.
Altaria is a thorn in my side whenever one comes up. The set that causes me problems more often than not are special bulky ones with Roost, Cotton Guard, Toxic, and attacking move. Natural Cure makes it so I can't toxic it, and it's pretty annoying to play around in my opinion.
You need about 3 DD's before you can actually OHKO anything but the least bulky pokes, the bulkier sets are MUCH more effective.
Don't run offensive Altaria, you are better off running Shelgon or Gabite if you want an offensive dragon.
Altaria is a fucking win wall. Cotton Guard once, then just spam Roost and Toxic to wear down enemies. The last attack is your choice, really. Most likely Heal Bell...
Altaria is a fucking win wall. Cotton Guard once, then just spam Roost and Toxic to wear down enemies. The last attack is your choice, really. Most likely Heal Bell...
or u could use a fire move or earthquake to easily get rid of steel types...
How the hell does fluffy little altaria learn earthquake,WTF!?
But the point of that altaria is to wall and stall with toxic and cotton guard. I think if you had a move that can burn then you would be better. But I don't think altaria knows a move that inflicts burn.
Other than the random Fire Blast, I don't think so.
She doesnt learn any burn moves....SOOOOOO we're stuck with toxic.
Flamethrower is never a bad choice when you KNOW that steels are going to come and troll you.
sooo yeah,the last slot on the stall/wall set should be flamethrower imo.
That actually sounds like a decent set. But with Flamethrower you lose Heal Bell and lose to status, and with Heal Bell you lose the ability to lure and blast Steels so it's a pretty big trade-off.
Nature..Natural(?) cure is a wonderful ability...u have to switch but thats alright,its not like u can only use cotten guard once.
Natural Cure doesn't help Altaria trying to stall something out, and Heal Bell is a big loss for its ability to support the team (and few viable Pokemon get it). 4 moveslot syndrome strikes again...
You should probably just stick with Toxic/Roost/Cotton Guard/Heal Bell. There aren't that many steel types in this tier anyways. What you have to worry about is the poison types (namely venomoth and scolipede), but you have another 5 pokemon on your team to take care of them.
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