Sableye

XienZo said:
No, you're allowed to have Prankster with it, it won't affect Metal Burst.

Might be useful in some cases, but you can't throw it in front of any poke with strong offense either.
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That is true. very strong attacks will KO it, though the same would be said as the other version. I wish it could have Metal Burst and Prankster recover. That would have been broken.

Question. Lagging tail would still let the priority moves go first right? So if you wanted to run Metal burst and always go last, but still go first with Priority moves, you would need lagging tail correct? that would have been an awesome set. Metal Burst, Recover, WoW/Confuse ray, shadow Sneak with Lagging tail and prankster.
 
You should also mention that Sableye is a good partner with ParaShuffler so Sableye could use substitute until he can get a free Recover, becoming a great PP staller, using this set:

Sableye@Leftovers
EVs: 252 HP/128 Def / 128 Sp.Def
Nature:Bold
Trait: Prankster
Move 1: Substitute
Move 2: Recover
Move 3: Confuse Ray
Move 4: Taunt
 
Mine will be:
-Prankster, Impish
(252hp 200def56spd)
@Leftovers
Will-o-wisp
Subtitute
Recover
Taunt/Protect

It will probably be taunt since priority taunt is so good, but protect seems nice for stalling since I'll pair him with a toxic user. Sub/protect/recover can stall for either WoW or Toxic. Its a wonderful defence wall, paired with a blissey,chansey or such, it will be fantastic.

Oh and by the way, is there a way to get a DW Sableye atm? (north america)
 
No, not really. Sableye really doesn't have a free moveslot for metal burst, and it's not worth losing priority recover for.

Please stop using fake out on the little ghost.

Foul play or night shade? I use fould play with the standard taunt / WoW / recover, and it's fairly good. Are there any good reasons to use night shade?
 
JT Swift said:
No, not really. Sableye really doesn't have a free moveslot for metal burst, and it's not worth losing priority recover for.

Please stop using fake out on the little ghost.

Foul play or night shade? I use fould play with the standard taunt / WoW / recover, and it's fairly good. Are there any good reasons to use night shade?
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Use CM in the last slot
 
How about this set?

name: CM Sableye
move 1: Calm Mind
move 2: Will-O-Wisp
move 3: Recover
move 4: Hidden Power Dark / Shadow Ball / Night Shade / Metal Burst
item: Leftovers
ability: Prankster
nature: Calm
EVs: 252 HP/128 Def/128 SDef
 
Katakiri said:
Prankster Sableye seems to be released now. (Confirmed by Serebii: http://www.serebii.net/games/hiddenabilityaccess.shtml )

Guess it's the end of Stall Teams.


Oh and this seems to be the standard set in PO's DW OU:

Sableye (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Prankster
EVs: 252 HP / 128 Def / 128 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Recover
- Confuse Ray
- Will-O-Wisp
- Taunt

http://stats.pokemon-online.eu/Past Stats/august-2011/DW OU/302.html

Can't wait for that server update.
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yayyyyyyyy. Sableye's released now! i am going to use it as a stallbreaker with toxic/Wow/recover/and taunt
 
MoltenKyurem said:
yayyyyyyyy. Sableye's released now! i am going to use it as a stallbreaker with toxic/Wow/recover/and taunt
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It actually breaks stall with WoW & Taunt. Nothing can heal off the damage so Toxic isn't neccesary. Confuse Ray gets Sableye not only extra damage, but it gets a free turn to heal/taunt against anything.

Can't wait until we start seeing Excadrill running Substitute! xD
 
Best thing about Sableye, Alakazam and Volebeat is since it's late in the month, the releases won't affect their usage stats.

Which means these soon-to-be monsters are all in RU for the next round.

Going to make a team about laying shittons of hazards that will prove impossible to spin away then passing +3 to Alakazam now.
 
Nanoswine said:
Best thing about Sableye, Alakazam and Volebeat is since it's late in the month, the releases won't affect their usage stats.

Which means these soon-to-be monsters are all in RU for the next round.

Going to make a team about laying shittons of hazards that will prove impossible to spin away then passing +3 to Alakazam now.
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Fuck. Yes.
 
I wonder how Sableye fairs in VGC. Probably not well given its pathetic defenses, but a set consisting of Taunt, Confuse Ray, Will-O-Wisp, Detect might be annoying as all get-out.
 
Katakiri said:
Prankster Sableye seems to be released now. (Confirmed by Serebii: http://www.serebii.net/games/hiddenabilityaccess.shtml )

Guess it's the end of Stall Teams.


Oh and this seems to be the standard set in PO's DW OU:

Sableye (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Prankster
EVs: 252 HP / 128 Def / 128 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Recover
- Confuse Ray
- Will-O-Wisp
- Taunt

http://stats.pokemon-online.eu/Past%20Stats/august-2011/DW%20OU/302.html

Can't wait for that server update.
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Wouldn't it be best to dump everything into HP and SP.Def. because of WoW? Or am I crazy?
 
Cold Fusion said:
Wouldn't it be best to dump everything into HP and SP.Def. because of WoW? Or am I crazy?
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Well that would probably be a good idea because +3 Alakazam with Psychic/FB/Shadow Ball/Energy Ball OHKO's everything in RU with rocks down except Cress SOMETIMES, Sableye ALSO SOMETIMES, and Mandibuzz. And that's only if they are max SpDef.

I'm loling.
 
So excited that I'm gonna be able to use DW Sableye really soon, I tried him out a bit on PO a while back, and I really like how he performed.

Probably my favorite release from this batch of DW Pokemon.
 
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Trait: Prankster
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Sunny Day
- Will-O-Wisp
- Trick
- Recover
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This is a metagame-breaker-set. With the fucking overcentralization of the mg, more than 75% of team abuse of Rain or Sandstorm. Do you know what can do a Rain Team during Sunny Day? I'm sure you know what. Even a Sandstorm, without SpDef boost for Rock-types and Sand Veil, will lose a lot of power. WOW allows Sableye to take how many physical damages you want, if the opponent has not Guts, and then use Recover. When you hold Sticky Barb, you will lose 12.5% of max HP each turn. If you use Trick and you get Leftovers, is a good thing. If you use Sunny Day and then Trick on Toxicroak, omnipresent, it will lose (more or less) 30% of HP. On 4 turns, without damage, it will be dead. Anyway, Sticky Barb takes down Focus Sash.
Magic Coat
Taunt
Toxic
Thunder Wave
Pain Split
Torment
Confuse Ray
I think you will use a support set, because an offensive one, with 75 Atk, 65 SpAtk and 50 Spd, sucks
 
This thing is going to be SO legit now. I can see it rising to at least UU. Anyway, the above set^ looks really good. Priority W-O-W + Sunny Day will stop weather dead. However, the lack of Leftovers is something I don't think Sableye can afford tbh. I would run Leftovers + Nightshade over Trick, since it does decent damage without needing investment, and stops Sableye from being Taunt/ set up bait.
 
I also recommend the leftovers on Sableye, but I would say taunt over trick. Priority taunt is just too good to pass up, and without it, you can't stall out anyone with reliable recovery.
 
Yeah, Taunt seems like the best option. Stops Sun sweepers like Volcarona who would actually benefit from Sunny Day and can't be W-O-W'ed.
 
Can't waaaait! Btw, Nanoswine has a point xD. I'm not in RU currently, still learning how UU works but... damn... gotta take advantage of guys like Ala and Prankleye! But still, after this round will have passed, Ala will very probably end up in OU (at the least UU/BL), but I wouldn't really know for sableye... we can only await the results :D
 
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