I guess I’m asking if Zone support is even necessary because of how little Celesteela there is but how much Lando and Pex there is. So many BO teams nowadays have a Pex or Tang/Bulu or Heatran to switch between against Celesteela, but Grassium seems to be more consistent at killing something than Fight imo.
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Hey all, longtime lover and lurker of smogon. I’ve got a basic question but I really need it answered for certain reasons:
Currently in the OU meta, would it be classified as more offensively inclined, defensively inclined, or balanced inclined?
Thanks in advance. This will help me greatly.
Currently in the OU meta, would it be classified as more offensively inclined, defensively inclined, or balanced inclined?
Thanks in advance. This will help me greatly.
I’d say that it’s hard to assign a single one, but balance is at the forefront with offense being there as well. Defensive or stallish teams have fallen out of favor since the Dugtrio ban, but they are still viable, too.
What helped Assault Vest Amoongus be so popular? (I'm guessing Koko, but I'd imagine there being something more). And moves...Tantrum/STABs/Foul Play, or something else?
Is there any reason to use Zard-X over Volcarona? I seem them both as powerful fire type sweepers, and both mandate defog/rapid spin support on your team.
They fulfill different roles tho, Volcarona is a sweeper that requires support from its teammates depending on its set in addition to the mandatory Defog support whereas zard is more of a breaker that just takes advantage of its high attack stat and good coverage to wallbreak, usually paving the way for a late game cleaner/sweeper. As for advantages and disadvantages, ig zard takes your mega slot and volc can be dead in some mus, zard is worse in general cause lando and pex are everywhere and it's relatively easy to check offensively so it doesnt excel particularly vs any archetype
Bulky offense tends to have a defensive backbone, usually with deffensive landot and av magearna, while, HO doesn't care about defensive sinergy and looks to overpower the opposite teams with a bunch of setup sweepers, while having usually one or 2 suicide leads to set up rocks and get KOed
With all due respect, that isn't what I asked lol
Offense is a blanket term that consists of bulky and hyper offense
And everything in between
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How do we feel about Scolipede? I think it’s an underexplored threat that compliments Zygarde quite nicely. I wish the standard set had room for poison jab.
Scolipede doesn’t have much power to break through certain walls so it’s not that good in the meta, but it is decent for spikes support.
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It's unviable. Sd sets are hard stopped by balance due to extreme 4MSS - losing one of poison jab, eq, aqua tail or megahorn significantly reduces effectiveness - and gren is a better hazard setter. Pex is a more effective tspikes setter as well.
that much defense isnt really needed, this is probably a much more efficient spread, since u can handily scout and take on koko/greninja etc while still not get threatened out by sd kart(u eat +2 knock off after rocks always). u also take ~50 from invested magma heatran while the no spdef spread takes around 65, a pretty big difference and one of the main selling points of the set over the regular utility sets.
av tapu bulu/amoonguss(av or spores)+heatran, ferrothorn+def lando, clef+ferrothorn are pretty common and reliable backbones for BO.
Mamoswine for sure, its STAB combo Is great, threatening a Lot of shit, while having knock off to get ride of skarm's shed Shell for Magnezone
Is anyone using Mind Blown instead of Overheat?
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Gliscor (M) @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal
EVs: 244 HP / 124 SpD / 140 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Defog
- Earthquake
- Roost
- Toxic
spd and speed is for tran + some other threats that I can't recall rn. 244 hp gives maximum Poison Heal recovery.
Is Tapu Fini’s tournament use indicative of a higher viability than its current placement?