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The Everything NHL Thread

Rundblad was projected to be a top 4 defenseman iirc, and he's scored 50 points in the Swedish Elite League, so he has a great upside.

Turris has a great upside, and again, iirc, he had played well in the playoffs (in that 4 game sweep), and that gives Senators great center depth.

Should have been a 1-1 trade imo. Second rounder was not necessary.
 
As a Sharks fan its nice to see the Kings struggle. Im not sure what people saw in them as Cup contenders, its still early I guess. They dont have any scoring beyond Kopitar. Richards is a very good hockey player, he is not a natural scorer. He scores, but it's hard. I see one elite player in Kopitar, some players who have a ton of mileage on them, two hard-working guys in Richards and Dustin Brown I don't see where the goals are supposed to come from now even with Sutter behind the bench. And of course Doughty and Penner are just awful.
 
I gotta admit, Luongo is on fire. Getting his confidence back. Will truly be interesting who the nucks will keep next year.

The jets game was spectacular. The crowd is like no other crowd, I don't think anyone can argue that.

15:23: Getzlaf with the puck
15:23: BOOOOO
15:22: Selanne with the puck
15:22: YEAAAAAAA
15:21: Perry with the puck, snaps it back to Selanne
15:21: BOOOOO, YEAAAAAAA

Got way better treatment than Doan. We even cheered when he was announced for points on us.

So many thrashings today. Philly thrashed by Boston (poor injured philly). Kings thrashed by Detroit. Sabres thrashed by Pens.
 
I'm a little disappointed at the media in Montreal. During an intermission, PJ Stock was saying how with the news of JM being fired, the thing that seemed to be the biggest news was that Cunneyworth doesn't speak french. I mean they should at least give him a chance to see if he gets the team winning again.
 
CaptainKishimoto said:
I'm a little disappointed at the media in Montreal. During an intermission, PJ Stock was saying how with the news of JM being fired, the thing that seemed to be the biggest news was that Cunneyworth doesn't speak french. I mean they should at least give him a chance to see if he gets the team winning again.
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Speaking French>winning in Montreal apparently.
 
Mercy said:
Speaking French>winning in Montreal apparently.
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'Speaking French' and 'Winning in Montreal' aren't contradictions. It is perfectly legitimate to expect both.

Dare I say it is indeed a priority to me and I certainly don't feel like this would be sacrificing results... unless anyone here believes Cunneyworth is the next Scotty Bowman 'en devenir'.....

(even Bowman could speak French!)
 
Vineon said:
'Speaking French' and 'Winning in Montreal' aren't contradictions. It is perfectly legitimate to expect both.

Dare I say it is indeed a priority to me and I certainly don't feel like this would be sacrificing results... unless anyone here believes Cunneyworth is the next Scotty Bowman 'en devenir'.....

(even Bowman could speak French!)
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So if you were the GM and since Cunneyworth doesn't speak French, who would you hire instead; Martin was hired partly due to the fact that he was one of the last available French speaking coaches on the market that the Habs didn't fire previously.

Unless there's some obscure juniors coach that can magically make the transition from the minors to the NHL, while speaking French fluently, I don't see any other options for the Habs if they're targeting the French-speaking demographic.
 
Eraddd said:
So if you were the GM and since Cunneyworth doesn't speak French, who would you hire instead; Martin was hired partly due to the fact that he was one of the last available French speaking coaches on the market that the Habs didn't fire previously.

Unless there's some obscure juniors coach that can magically make the transition from the minors to the NHL, while speaking French fluently, I don't see any other options for the Habs if they're targeting the French-speaking demographic.
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?????

If the 'Habs' aren't "targeting the French-speaking demographic", they must have absolutely no clue where the team happens to be playing. Was it a joke?

Don't ask me who, I'm not the GM and I do not know much about the head coaches in the Juniors (other than like.. Patrick Roy). Why are you asking me to name someone.. I also couldn't have named Randy Cunneyworth before this year, does that even mean anything? However, I'm certain there are quality ones as none of the 29 other teams are ever any interesting to look into the Q Junior league for coaches. That is the reason why every single French coach or almost started in the NHL with Montréal. Most of them had lenghty and successful careers. So yeah, personally, I would have liked to see someone promoted from the Juniors into the Big League. I did hear there are quality coaches out there simply waiting for their opportunity.

Besides, for the record, there are a couple of French speaking veteran coaches that never coached the Habs (Hartley and Crawford come to mind.. they both started with the Nordiques (!) although in Hartley's case after they moved... or perhaps even Larry Robinson. I'm sure there are others). I wouldn't be against a coach having a second tenure in Montréal either.
 
In regards to my bolded sentence, I wasn't implying that they weren't targeting the French-speaking demographic. My point was that the Habs probably can't have their cake and eat it too; it's going to be difficult to find a francophone who is a great coach, and a great coach who is fluent.

I guess where I was going is, are you willing to hire a coach who is less capable, but is francophone, over a more capable coach who isn't, and possibly hinder the Hab's chance at playoffs, and possibly negatively influence their future?
 
I'm saying the pool of potent french coaches isn't as dim as you make it out to be. The choice isn't 'French' or 'Success' so stop trying to imply it is. It isn't Scotty Bowman that was just hired but a green Randy Cunneyworth. This isn't baseball, I didn't care that the Expos never had a French speaking coach, I knew there weren't any available.

But hockey? We're crazy about it here, everyone here thinks himself a coach at times, there are tons of French coaches in the Juniors, in other Pro Leagues, in the NHL or outside of it waiting to get back and there is certainly some quality within their ranks. Plenty to pick from.

Moreover, I do believe the Montreal team has a role to get French coaches in the NHL because frankly, it is pretty much only through this route that they manage to. Once they do get in, they are part of the wheel, they now have a reputation and more often than not will continue their careers in other teams all accross the league. They wouldn't have had this opportunity if one team, always the same, didn't give them a chance. The reason for that is that pretty much no other team scouts the Q for coaches, just like nobody scouts Finland or Sweden for coaches even though I believe many of them could do a fantastic job in the NHL. If their greatest players can make the transition from International rules European hockey to NHL hockey, so could their greatest coaches. But who's paying attention? It's an easy guess to say that an NHL team in Finland and Sweden would change that.
 
To this, I suppose what could be added is that the last, what, 12 times they did win the cup - because its happens to be the team that has won more than any other - they did with one that could.

Perhaps we should start naming all the teams that haven't won a cup since 1993, that would make it what, perhaps 75% of them?

Or just maybe we could look at last year's Stanley Cup finalists, coached by French coaches Julien & Vigneault. 3/4 in the semis adding Boucher? All of them Montreal Canadiens products?

I think we can risk keeping this issue at heart without much fear of having it hinder success.

As for your tone, I hope to get a chance to bloody up your face one day.
 
habs fans have their heads so far up their asses at this point. get a coach but he doesn't speak french "WE DON'T WANT HIM" even though the habs are approaching being a bottom feeder team. Take what you can get and hope for the best, beggars can't be choosers.

"but we won 24 cups" yeah before you were even born, who cares

Vineon said:
As for your tone, I hope to get a chance to bloody up your face one day.
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lmao kid I would rip you in half
 
Aren't you a Bruins fan? How long was the wait again between last year and the one before? (Or was it Chicago that you're a fan of? I don't remember, not that it changes much)

A 43 year old Toronto Maple Leafs fan hasnt yet lived the experience. Not mentionning the first expansion teams that have waited just as long. The Canucks, Sabres. Or just half the teams the NHL currently has that haven't yet won a championship.

I'm old enough to have lived 2 Montreal Stanley Cup reigns actually, one of them I remember very well. I'm also old enough not to be called a kid by anyone here, especially some wet ears dipshit like yourself that hasn't yet been taught how to properly conduct himself in a social environment.

There are ways to make your opinion heard and understood and there are ways to disagree with others in all respect. I don't think you're there yet in your social development.

I simply propose to shed some skin on my fists and your face in an effort to educate you.
 
Vineon said:
Aren't you a Bruins fan? How long was the wait again between last year and the one before? (Or was it Chicago that you're a fan of? I don't remember, not that it changes much)

A 43 year old Toronto Maple Leafs fan hasnt yet lived the experience. Not mentionning the first expansion teams that have waited just as long. The Canucks, Sabres. Or just half the teams the NHL currently has that haven't yet won a championship.
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you don't get it. none of those teams are passing on a good coach because of some arbitrary bullshit. maybe if you won recently at all you'd get the right to be a little more picky but until then you might want to take what you can get before you become a perennial bottom feeder.

I'm old enough to have lived 2 Montreal Stanley Cup reigns actually, one of them I remember very well. I'm also old enough not to be called a kid by anyone here, especially some wet ears dipshit like yourself that hasn't yet been taught how to properly conduct himself in a social environment.
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lol okay you're the one who starts with "I want to bloody your face" and then you go on about proper conduct

sure

There are ways to make your opinion heard and understood and there are ways to disagree with others in all respect. I don't think you're there yet in your social development.
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see previous comment. learn not to be a hypocrite

I simply propose to shed some skin on my fists and your face in an effort to educate you.
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is this you?
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until then, I'll enjoy having the league's best record while you sit in 12th place and complain about not having a french coach
 
My take was that the pool of French coaches is vast enough not to be hinder to success. Randy Cunneyworth is about frankly as green as would have been any coach taken from the Q Juniors league, many with interesting winning resumes there. We wouldn't be passing on Jack Adams here, we'd be passing on Randy Cunningham.

This team is screwed bad enough that I don't think anyone could feel confident blaming the coach. When you pay 8 millions for a guy that scores 3 goals a year in a salary cap league, you know the coach is your smallest problem. There's always a gutless GM ready to sacrifice the coach to make up for his own mismanagements.

Yes I did say I would bloody up your face, after your sole retort was that I should shut the fuck up. If you were any actually interested to have a discussion about the issue like a civilised person, there would have been better ways to phrase it. See Eraddd's post for example.

No, that picture you posted isn't of me actually but I have one better, sadly without a caption as witty as the one in yours.

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Yep, French coaches only, racist or whatever world should describe it. Once I feel the Montreal team isn't the only one interested in giving French coaches a chance, maybe I'll change my mind. I can't help but feel like if we don't stick up to ourselves and give ourselves a chance, others won't do it for us.
 
kid if you tried to hit me I would pick you up over my head and spin you around. stop talking shit on the internet and grow up

edit: hey look I can post pictures too

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strong bandana you got there
 
popemobile said:
kid if you tried to hit me I would pick you up over my head and spin you around. stop talking shit on the internet and grow up
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Yeah!

I kind of like that picture, although it is about 8 years old. The greasy hair sticking out of the bandana especially. How dirty!

I suppose there's dirty... and then there's ugly :

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