Well, I don't know you stranger, but I feel you are needed I myself know how you are exactly feeling, I myself have been very suicidal for around 2 years so the feeling itself knowing that another person is hating life, and hating the things we do is somewhat sad, and reassuring, in my case, we aren't alone we aren't the only one suffering, that doesn't atone for the suffering we go through does it? No, But it at least shows theres a bit of humanity in the world to reach out to others in times of desperation & calling. However I do suggest social isolation does exist, since I'm a partaker of it, so please, do talk to others, if your able it will help you a lot in this ideal for the suicidal thoughts. asfar as Smogon in itself I feel, isn't a more or less, unless you know the knowledge, you are useless, But Perhaps, it does open more doorways and such, there are still a lot of great forums non competitively related, and well, makes the fourm act like an actual form, which I do enjoy. I don't partake competitively on Smogon A lot, so I could be wrong. The feeling however is mutual If you still wish to quit Smogon I can indeed respect that, And Good luck wherever you fare. Take Care.I am quitting Smogon.
I do not think my presence is needed in this community, nor do I feel like it will ever matter to anyone, nor will my efforts to get to the top be meaningful to me or anyone else.
The Smogon Community has made me undeniably more miserable, suicidal, and unwanted than any other competitive community I've been a part of. All it seems to be is a popularity contest. It doesn't matter about your passion to change the meta, make friends, be the best at something, think outside the box, come up with alternative ways to play the game, agree with a previous meta established before the current, or want to help a meta become more diverse; if you're not good at something, you have no opinion.
I've had good friends. Celdanami, ZPanther, Incognition, and udm were some of the nicest people I've met here, but even still, I feel like I can't continue on in a community where the majority of interactions make me fear for being seen as lesser, or bullied and gaslit into thinking I'm just not good.
I know how to play these games. I know the metas, and I understand why things are the way they are, even when I disagree with the asinine way of how a council executes them. I've been consistently Top 300 in RBY and Top 200 in GSC for only a few months after picking them up, advanced in their respective tours while handling my own against respectable well-known players, made it ranked to ADV and DPP, and I've become very proficient at teambuilding since I've started.
It truly feels like everything I've ever done was a detrimental mark on how people view me, and just isolated me more. I literally believe some of you people think I should kill myself, especially those in Mushi League.
I'm going back to VGC. I was able to meet real people, have fun convos irl at tournaments, bant about the meta and toss around ideas and never really get attacked for it, nor was I told to "play more" for my takes or conform to the current meta unless opinion sways like it does every once and a while among every tier. The Pokemon Company is the ultimate deciding point on what is acceptable in its games, and TPC would never allow for things to be run or decided like it has been in this community. This community has made my favorite generations of Pokemon a mess of very specific, hiveminded ideas of what a meta should look like, ESPECIALLY Gen 4, all while not having an objective standard to base such a meta off of, and actively ruined my enjoyment of the game due to behavior from others and from a constant dogpiling whenever there is a difference in perspective between myself and someone else.
I geniunely wish the worst for Smogon and for Showdown. I hope Nintendo takes Showdown down, and I hope they make it as hard as possible to make a cesspool like Smogon ever be able to thrive again.
Just came across this post and wanted to chime in with some input of my own. Competitive gaming in any guise can create a false sense of purpose within a person that, without me diving too deep into what I believe in, I think is a very misleading lifestyle to live by. Long story short, if any competitive community, not just for video games either, is making you feel those things you mentioned, get as far away from the source of those feelings as you can, as fast as you can. Your value as an individual in real life, and your life in general is too important to be spent asking how you can constantly meet a social standard that’s impossible to fulfill. You won’t always be able to make everyone happy all of the time or perhaps be as “popular” or “reputable” in a competitive community as you would like, but that’s okay. Your own personal wellness and, well, real life, will always be more important.I am quitting Smogon.
I do not think my presence is needed in this community, nor do I feel like it will ever matter to anyone, nor will my efforts to get to the top be meaningful to me or anyone else.
The Smogon Community has made me undeniably more miserable, suicidal, and unwanted than any other competitive community I've been a part of. All it seems to be is a popularity contest. It doesn't matter about your passion to change the meta, make friends, be the best at something, think outside the box, come up with alternative ways to play the game, agree with a previous meta established before the current, or want to help a meta become more diverse; if you're not good at something, you have no opinion.
I’m not going to ask you for respect’s sake what kinds of things you’ve heard from other people, but all I’m going to say here is shame on whoever’s been making you feel like this. Hateful comments and behaviors should be actively discouraged in a community like this. That being said, I also want to suggest that one part of Smogon doesn’t necessarily represent the entire user base, and that there will always be people here willing to talk to or listen to you if you’re going through difficult times. Whatever you decide to do, I have faith that you’ll be okay. You’ve got this. Just keep your head held high, okay?I geniunely wish the worst for Smogon and for Showdown. I hope Nintendo takes Showdown down, and I hope they make it as hard as possible to make a cesspool like Smogon ever be able to thrive again.
It's been getting better. I am slowly figuring out where these feelings came from and that helps meI feel like a disappointment and liability to everyone around me and I have no logical reason for that. It gives me so much anxiety that it makes my stomach act up really really bad. People can look at me with the utmost neutrality or even positivity, and it's like the logical part of my brain recognizes that, but the raw, natural part of it feels venom and resentment
I genuinely don't know why, there's nothing in my life that triggered it, my medication didn't change, it just kinda happened from one day to the next. For the first time in my life, I feel uncomfortable going outside and being around people, I feel uncertain about contacting people that are close to me
It's been getting better. I am slowly figuring out where these feelings came from and that helps me
However, man I fucking hate these stomach issues. I've been having them since 15 and they're always there once I get stressed. Been to many doctors but it's psychosomatic
Getting into fitness and eating healthy improved them a lot but I still sometimes pass out on the toilet from the pain I feel
I sleep on my stomach so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ normally just tuck my hands on each side that they rest in so I don't wake up with a cramp from hell from my hand being like 120 degrees lmaoIt's crazy; and this will sound silly like "We should all know this" but still that isn't always true, I like Juggalo music doesn't mean I always wanna hear ICP.. but recently got back into my punk side and depending the mood i throw on different bands throughout my day (the ska and like skate/hardcore punk ones really been hitting lately --- but even in later night i've enjoyed some crossover thrash or even grindcore/death metal) and as odd as it sounds it's like my brain was like...
"hey remember you being the skater/jackass/etc kid and thats all where we learned it from?" and now years later been a peaceful zen (yes even the more extreme side haha - music is just my "peace blanket")
all that to say it's been one of those "Put it on; even if the day is annoying, and you'll be good homie" vibes. Punk has always served well lol
sidenote: my left wrist has really been a problem for months now and its def a mix of how i sleep/work (cant blame work, tend to use my left hand to hold my cover in my sleep - it gets worked over) -- i need to find some wrist yoga stuff to make sleep easier now too lol.
desperate question: is anyone else a side sleeper/half-belly sleeper with no idea what to do with either arm?
right shoulder hates mes, and left wrist would sacrifice me given a chance lol.
As another disaffected former staff and contributor, I can relate to a lot here. (Don't mind my non-grey badges, all of them besides SDC should realistically be gray.) The struggle of trying to go above and beyond to get stuff done when other people don't really care or respond, and still not being really appreciated or cared for at all, that definitely stings a bit haha.just venting
Its been a really long while of me being here, Its weird cause every time I keep thinking to myself I havent made enough friends cause I am new, yet its really been 4 years since I got a blunder vid on my youtube feed. On one hand, I think the hours and hours I have spent here are not worth the effort, I dont feel appreciated as a person nor staff. On the other, its so hard to leave behind the few friends I have made here. If I could blame 2 people from keeping me locked here it would be Weaselfie and Mada. Yet there are so many people I cant really call close friends, but which I appreciate for them being part of it all. Everyone in Mexico has been nothing but kind to me, even when I acted so self centered when I first met them, they are very cool. Every regular in OU room... man, Idt they would call me their friend, but when I came back after an ~7-8 month break they would all say hi, ask how I had been and stuff, it was a really nice feeling.
I was dealing with a lot back when I left, yet I could have kept all my stuff and just say I would be gone for a bit, you know, make an effort. But the decision wasnt very hard, I really felt miserable here. Saying I wasnt appreciated is a way to put it, I doubt anyone knew nor cared how much I was doing not only position wise, but actively doing stuff. But I was just doing all that cause I enjoyed it. I enjoy making 100 rfaqs a day in OU room, I like being there all day lol, I liked yapping about changes in sets for the smogdex, I liked making sure that everything was running fine with forum projects, I wanted to help my friends in their tours. No one forced me nor did I ever feel forced to do any of those things. I felt useless at times sure, but the feeling wouldnt last long and I figured I was just doing stuff I liked.
I think what really annoyed and continues to annoy me is talking to a wall and then sometimes the wall turns into a person and asks me why I havent been talking to it. It really is disheartening. So many ideas, so many messages, so many times I asked others around me to do something, or for feedback, and so many times it ended in silence. Imagine my frustration when they brought it up again weeks or months later as if I hadnt been yapping about it. It sounds like such a dumb issue, and it is! But man, I really cared about all my stuff, and that happening literally every day was so hurtful. You dont have to search very deep to find examples, my CC gray badge itself is one.
I tried so hard to improve whatever place I ended up in. I am super shitty to work with, I am sure even the people who have had to deal with me the longest think that. But please do know that everything I try to do, even if its a completely bad idea, comes from a place of care. I guess I am still hurt I didnt really get other people asking how I was once I got back, but I supposed thats how it is I cant really ask them to do that. I can only ask you to please reach out to fellow friends and users if you think they might not be feeling their best.
Please do remember yourself that mental health will always be more important than whatever is going on in a Pokemon site. Try to be here to have fun!
Find a hobby you like or something else as a goal and make that the reason why you get up every day. (Something that isn't purely for entertainment is ideal since even if you aren't having fun you won't feel like you're wasting your life away) Friendships are something impossible to chase because if you do and a socially aware person senses that they'll go out of their way to abuse it. There isn't a single friendship I've maintained that isn't because of a shared interest and most of them can forgive the fact that your social skills are in the negatives as long as you don't come off as being rude.I have no real friends anymore, or maybe I never did. I have no family. I have no partner. I don't really enjoy doing anything anymore. My job is about as stress free as it could possibly be but it still takes about all the energy I have. With the uncertainty of federal jobs ATM I can't even count on that anymore. I do is go to work, go to the gym, and come home and scroll or play social games. My dream is that one day I could be socially attractive enough to have a social life or partner. I would do literally anything if it gave me a realistic chance of reaching that goal. But nothing I do ever works. I'm not suicidal but every day that goes by I am a little more miserable and a little less hopeful that I can ever get towards a life worth living.
I know we don’t speak everyday but as I said before I genuinely appreciated your efforts (I said this many times before but let me reiterate) not only that as person I respect that you always put 110% into what you do and I have no doubts in my mind in real life you are a hard worker because you are ambitious. Please keep your head up. I’ve learned that the word “Friend” I have also used too lightly in real life as well. I found myself using the word acquaintance more often. I found the word “friend” should not be used lightly and that applies to here and all aspects of life. Keep it pushing Queen.just venting
Its been a really long while of me being here, Its weird cause every time I keep thinking to myself I havent made enough friends cause I am new, yet its really been 4 years since I got a blunder vid on my youtube feed. On one hand, I think the hours and hours I have spent here are not worth the effort, I dont feel appreciated as a person nor staff. On the other, its so hard to leave behind the few friends I have made here. If I could blame 2 people from keeping me locked here it would be Weaselfie and Mada. Yet there are so many people I cant really call close friends, but which I appreciate for them being part of it all. Everyone in Mexico has been nothing but kind to me, even when I acted so self centered when I first met them, they are very cool. Every regular in OU room... man, Idt they would call me their friend, but when I came back after an ~7-8 month break they would all say hi, ask how I had been and stuff, it was a really nice feeling.
I was dealing with a lot back when I left, yet I could have kept all my stuff and just say I would be gone for a bit, you know, make an effort. But the decision wasnt very hard, I really felt miserable here. Saying I wasnt appreciated is a way to put it, I doubt anyone knew nor cared how much I was doing not only position wise, but actively doing stuff. But I was just doing all that cause I enjoyed it. I enjoy making 100 rfaqs a day in OU room, I like being there all day lol, I liked yapping about changes in sets for the smogdex, I liked making sure that everything was running fine with forum projects, I wanted to help my friends in their tours. No one forced me nor did I ever feel forced to do any of those things. I felt useless at times sure, but the feeling wouldnt last long and I figured I was just doing stuff I liked.
I think what really annoyed and continues to annoy me is talking to a wall and then sometimes the wall turns into a person and asks me why I havent been talking to it. It really is disheartening. So many ideas, so many messages, so many times I asked others around me to do something, or for feedback, and so many times it ended in silence. Imagine my frustration when they brought it up again weeks or months later as if I hadnt been yapping about it. It sounds like such a dumb issue, and it is! But man, I really cared about all my stuff, and that happening literally every day was so hurtful. You dont have to search very deep to find examples, my CC gray badge itself is one.
I tried so hard to improve whatever place I ended up in. I am super shitty to work with, I am sure even the people who have had to deal with me the longest think that. But please do know that everything I try to do, even if its a completely bad idea, comes from a place of care. I guess I am still hurt I didnt really get other people asking how I was once I got back, but I supposed thats how it is I cant really ask them to do that. I can only ask you to please reach out to fellow friends and users if you think they might not be feeling their best.
Please do remember yourself that mental health will always be more important than whatever is going on in a Pokemon site. Try to be here to have fun!
Hey I know you are probably in a phase of life where you feel that everything has come to a standstill. I too have felt this and at one point very lonely. I suggest trying something new, go somewhere and see a different scenery. One day I started talking positivity into myself even though at the moment I didn’t fully believe it. It’s ok to tell yourself “I want change” in the mirror ain’t nothing wrong with that. I have faith you’re find yourself and the pieces you are missing as life is a journey and we handle our challenges as we go. Please keep me updated on any changes and I wish you the absolute best!I have no real friends anymore, or maybe I never did. I have no family. I have no partner. I don't really enjoy doing anything anymore. My job is about as stress free as it could possibly be but it still takes about all the energy I have. With the uncertainty of federal jobs ATM I can't even count on that anymore. I do is go to work, go to the gym, and come home and scroll or play social games. My dream is that one day I could be socially attractive enough to have a social life or partner. I would do literally anything if it gave me a realistic chance of reaching that goal. But nothing I do ever works. I'm not suicidal but every day that goes by I am a little more miserable and a little less hopeful that I can ever get towards a life worth living.
I've been in the same boat. I was always considered ugly and fat as a child. I grew a lot and started working out, got a good haircut, a beard and I am considered physically attractiveMy dream is that one day I could be socially attractive enough to have a social life or partner.