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Today, I was assaulted in traffic.
- Thread starter MegaBuddha
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ahaha don't start carrying a "blade"
unless you have training in fighting with a weapon you're just endangering yourself by carrying one
soon as somebody gets that knife out of your hand, you're boned
unless you have training in fighting with a weapon you're just endangering yourself by carrying one
soon as somebody gets that knife out of your hand, you're boned
whatever you do, do not listen to this guy. bossman, stop stop acting like a damn fool. i've never seen a dumber post in congregation.
Personally, I'd rather keep self-defense unarmed. You're not going to win a court case if you're assaulted by somebody who is unarmed and you bring a weapon into the fight.
If you're going to carry anything, make sure it's legal. Get a permit so can carry something like pepper spray or a tazer/stun gun. Do research so you don't end up with weapon charges in the event you do get assaulted.
EDIT: Never mind, your gf is a witness. Yeah, press charges. I doubt a dipshit like that will bother with a lawyer anyways.
EDIT2: Getting some type of revenge yourself will just escalate the situation. But if this guy isn't dealt with somehow, he'll just keep doing shit again and again.
Seriously though, unless you want to lower your lifestyle by becoming a thug, just get the court involved. Hard to give a real accurate assessment as far as how afraid of any retaliation you might be, not being able to see either of you, but fuck it people like that can't get off free for their barbaric ways.
Press charges, if he fucks with you again, press charges again. If you're really concerned with physical assault by his gang-banger buddies (based on how you described him and your town I doubt they're that bad) keep a baseball bat near your driver's seat, to the left of the seat and on the floor. No blades, longer range means people can't just grab your wrist and force it away from you, you can take on multiples if you have to.
Ultimately it is up to you, I'm not so great at avoiding fights if someone hits me first and still like to consider myself cool-headed, so you're just going to have to use your judgement.
I was making the value judgement that this part proves he is stupid (or, as it turns out, not thinking to roll up a window..or learn to drive the fuck past someone already out of his car). Then my next value judgement is that not only is he stupid, but his responses here show he is an obviously awful person - his response to this is juvenile and immoral. Obviously this other guy deserves something awful too, but not everyone becomes punished how he or she should be! The original poster did :)
you really think that the information you gleaned from a few paragraphs on an internet forum is enough to make a judgment like this? in other words, you're calling the OP an idiot because he reacted in a way that you, having no actual experience with the situation itself and a hindsight bias, personally believe you wouldn't have?CaptKirby said:
Who thinks to roll up their window? I'm an idiot because I should expect to have been hit by an ADULT for doing nothing wrong? Also, it's a one lane road, and he pulled in front of me incase you missed that. Idiot.
And again. I posted this the day it happened when I was pissed off. It's not a plan I'd thought through and was going to do but simpley me saying what my 'solution' was rather than immediately say "but.. yeah.. I'm not going to do anything.
And again. I posted this the day it happened when I was pissed off. It's not a plan I'd thought through and was going to do but simpley me saying what my 'solution' was rather than immediately say "but.. yeah.. I'm not going to do anything.
As a student of law, I say press charges. It's not the optimal solution, but in your case it's really the most effective. Unless you HONESTLY think that he will hire someone to kill you, in which case you should just eat the punch in the face and move on with your life.
I didn't expect that sort of reaction; I wasn't serious, damn. From the looks of it you were so flustered that you stuttered while typing.
I will present my reasoning as to why the OP did not deserve the be punched. Obviously some of my reasoning is a value judgment--and is thus subject to a certain degree of relativity--but hopefully we both find certain ethical judgments to be agreeable (murder is wrong and such).
For one, to me, making a stupid decision (WHICH IS NOT THE SAME AS BEING STUPID) is NOT deserving of being punched in the face. It would be facetious to assume that the OP is stupid based on one incident. And even if he was stupid, that still does not mean that he deserved to be punched in the face (stupid people can be very nice, too).
I would, however, agree that someone wanting to destroy another's car in response to physical harm can be considered unethical (this is what you assert). But, for one, it is very much possible that the OP was not entirely serious when he said this; I interpreted it this way and the OP has later said it to be the case; he could be lying to save face, of course. Let's say this is the case: the OP was lying and was entirely serious about destroying the d-bag's car for punching him in the face.
The question of guilt, then, is a matter of time. At the time the OP was punched in the face, did he deserve it? If we disregard the previous events of the OP's life barring the incident itself and all the time it occupied (and you must since, when you made your assertion, you did not know anything about the OP beforehand), he clearly did not deserve to be punched (for we established, hopefully, that brain farts are not grounds for physical harm). Then, the OP can be said to be guilty ONLY as a result of his reaction to the situation AFTER THE FACT. But what constitutes the after the fact? Obviously, according to you, around a day after. But why does immediacy have to play a role? If judging according to the after the fact, then his guilt should be judged according to ANY reaction, in accordance with the incident, after the incident (this includes him wanting to destroy his car ten years later). To say his reaction a day after is his "window of potential guilt" is an arbitrary decision; it can only be said that he is guilty for being punched in the face for his actions after the fact.
Now that that's been established, let's imagine this scenario: you are abused by your drunken father. Ten years later, as a result of the anger you developed toward your abusive father, you decide to beat up some fat kid (the fat kid shares first names with your father and your blood boils with every glance at his gluttonous belly). This can be considered unethical (and if you think it is not unethical, then you are not entitled to your claim that the OP deserved it).
Therefore, according to the model with which you judged the OP, you DESERVED to be beaten by your abusive father because you beat up a fat kid--as a result of anger issues you developed DUE to your father--after the fact. Sounds absurd and circular? Because it is.
You are WRONG; the OP did not deserve to be punched in the face. End of story.
I missed nothing; when he gets out of his car is when, if you can, you start hauling ass. You certainly did nothing to react to an obviously emotionally charged situation.
Yes, the original poster is a brat. It is certainly a weird way to approach it to say that someone should experience something negative for the immature, terrible response that will follow, but it seems logical enough to me.
DaBossMan, your situations are definitely not analagous. I also could not care less about guilt, so I cannot agree with your argumentation either.
You're right, I should have hauled ass.. Into his suv..
if he had room enough to pull in front of you, then why couldnt you do the same?
or you could have, you know, put your car in reverse and just backed up.
man, pressing charges takes time AND money. if you (or anyone here) thinks you will fairly be compensated when you win, you need a severe reality check. US courts are awful. Even with a (assuming dependable) witness in your girlfriend, if this wigger (stereotyping here, but wiggers in SUVs are generally rich where I come from) gets a good lawyer, you're screwed and not winning anything significant. If he gets a decent lawyer he can just drag out the process until it becomes a mental strain on you to even continue. AND, even if you somehow go through with it, take all the time and money negatives in stride and win, he can always appeal and draaaag it out even more.
You got popped in the face. I cannot believe he hit you squarely either, as he was outside of your car and I am sure you flinched (unless you are utterly inept) at least slightly. This isn't worth the time and money that pressing charges would entail.
I seriously recommend you don't do that stupid revenge crap either. Its rewards pale in comparison to its potential risks.
Just brush it off and note that you have a pretty funny story to tell people over drinks now.
You got popped in the face. I cannot believe he hit you squarely either, as he was outside of your car and I am sure you flinched (unless you are utterly inept) at least slightly. This isn't worth the time and money that pressing charges would entail.
I seriously recommend you don't do that stupid revenge crap either. Its rewards pale in comparison to its potential risks.
Just brush it off and note that you have a pretty funny story to tell people over drinks now.
As I was getting up to the stop sign, he pulled in front of me. As in, theres no room for me to without risking a car pulling onto the road and me hitting them in their turn.
And sure I could have reversed as soon as he got out and then I don't know, reversed moer and more.. Right when he got out. But once he started being agressive and hit me. If I were to focus and try reversing then I'd have been blind to another hit.
And yeah, I flinched aldaron. I still have a black eye though. It was a pretty good hit tbh.
And yep, I guess I'm just going to let it go. Fuck it.
And sure I could have reversed as soon as he got out and then I don't know, reversed moer and more.. Right when he got out. But once he started being agressive and hit me. If I were to focus and try reversing then I'd have been blind to another hit.
And yeah, I flinched aldaron. I still have a black eye though. It was a pretty good hit tbh.
And yep, I guess I'm just going to let it go. Fuck it.
I wasn't really referring to Logann's offhanded "maybe I should get revenge" nonsense, mainly because it's kind of obvious to everyone (including Logann) how bad of an idea that would have been. And considering that he pretty much did the responsible thing to do and "talked about his feelings" before actually doing anything, I'm really kind of left scratching my head about your persistence here. OK, his idea was retarded, nobody disputes that... Logann included. so what are you doing here again?CaptKirby said:
But mainly I was trying to explain how out-of-touch with reality you have to be to seriously suggest that someone is an idiot for not "reacting properly" given like a half-dozen different reasons that you're incapable of seeing the situation from their perspective in the first place. Maybe rolling your window up and driving away, in the oversimplified "bad man is walking to my car" lala land you're living in, makes tons of intuitive sense... or maybe it doesn't and you're wrong about that too; either way, I think you're essentially just demonstrating how easy it is to talk shit about people from behind a computer screen.
Guilt? Did you read what I wrote man? It was long to be sure, but I wanted to be complete. I made no mention of guilt; it's about accountability AND I was evaluating PRECISELY the words you used to explain your justification as to why the OP deserved to be punched in the face and proved how flawed your reasoning was.
I know this shouldn't be my battle, but you have no right to call him a brat. Yeah, in frustration he said he wanted to fuck up the whigger's car, but who in his right mind believed him? And he even later said he wouldn't, on several occasions. I honestly think you're just being stubborn, CK. I mean, he got punched in the face for no reason AND the guy who punched him in the face will get away with it, due to the ineptness of the legal system and the fact that the guy's father is the sheriff.
Yeah, it totally makes sense to just hate on the OP, not on the other bullshit that has gone down in the OP's situation.
You honestly never cease to frustrate, CK.
On second thought, this has to be some trolling. You consistently talk shit in the topics I've seen you post in; at first I thought you were the pseudo-intellectual type (makes me feel like one when I say it), but damn I'm convinced you're trolling peeps hard. I should've learned when you were talking shit about my story.
so why exactly did you think he was just going to tell you the weather looked nice and be on his merry way after he pulled in front of you and then got out of his car and then approached your car with an unfriendly attitude. my bullshit detector is going off so loudly that it just sounds like one continuous tone. either you are dumb as a rock or this is a complete lie because you got bored and started fantasizing about a cool incident. if its real press charges and be done with it. an adult committing battery on a minor is a pretty big offense.
seriously dude, if you did not realize that the situation was not going to be a friendly conversation you deserved to get hit in the face. tbh i think you are making shit up as you go just to keep a thread alive.
seriously dude, if you did not realize that the situation was not going to be a friendly conversation you deserved to get hit in the face. tbh i think you are making shit up as you go just to keep a thread alive.
lol um....i think this is a case of "learn how to fucking drive" because for one thing if someone is tailing your ass that badly, you slow the fuck down and take an alternate route the second the motherfucker drives past you lol. i dont see how the fuck you drive slow enough to let someone pass you as you approach a stop sign lol jesus why is this thread even still open
so, hes some trashy wigger fucker with a pierced eye, nice.
ooh, and now hes a maniac.
and now, once you get called out for not rolling up your window, hes suddenly an ADULT. thats pretty cool.
given the way you described him initially, its your own damn fault if you honestly didnt see some sort of altercation coming.
also, if you have a policeman saying that he would pay someone to fuck you up bad, it shouldnt be that hard to ask for some sort of police watch on yourself given that you have a reliable source (policeman on the force) who says he will.
and then even if he does still go through with it, you can nail him again with even more shit in court along with the guys he hired.
I would press charges; he'll get arse raped in prison ;)
But seriously; if he sends someone to come after you, you'll take another beating maybe, car gets fucked up and they'll vandalize your home most likely; if a cop says your going to get beaten up then maybe its a wise decision not to.
You could just avoid that area of the suburb?....
But seriously; if he sends someone to come after you, you'll take another beating maybe, car gets fucked up and they'll vandalize your home most likely; if a cop says your going to get beaten up then maybe its a wise decision not to.
You could just avoid that area of the suburb?....