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Discussion in 'Archives' started by sandshrewz, Jun 10, 2012.

  1. GatoDelFuego

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    Well, I think it's ok for me to get another check in here....which, if I can, I'll never stop. Latias here. This is a bit more recent, but probably a less-implemented check than previously. That is to say, there were not as many errors in my opinion. I have not had the opportunity to do a check since your commentary, but will be working on one.

    also check the darn DPP threatlist so I can amcheck snipe it >:3

    EDIT: I'd actually rather you check Mawile once I'm done with it. A lot more errors that I think I've learned
  2. sandshrewz

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    I thought I already did these ~_~ here's for paragragh 5.

    Did not do Gato's because he's already on GP :P Sorry for the late reply >.> q_q I'm leaving this thread here for a day before sending it off to Archives. Thanks to all participants :) This thread has served its purpose and I hope you've learnt something new from it too! Once again, the resources linked in the OP are there if you need help with grammar, whether you're an analysis writer or a proofreader. Also, congratulations to all those who made it onto the GP team as well.

    This thread will remain open for about a day and feel free to suggest anything regarding this thread or GPing. If you still need help with regards to GPing, feel free to approach me or Jellicent :) Thank you!

    edit: locking and moving~
  3. Redew

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    Hello! We're reopening this up because we'd like to give this thread another go! This will be ran the same as last time, so don't worry about anything new! Again, GPers who want to do an answer key can contact me via PM or VM (before you do the answer key x.x)~ Thanks! :)

    OH WAIT EDIT:

    we will run this like it was before amcheckers would post in the thread for their checks to be looked at. You can still PM / VM us if you want a check looked at, though! :)
  4. GatoDelFuego

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    Ok, everyone, here's a paragraph to start this off. Any amateur checkers that want to show their skills should go ahead and take a look at this paragraph, specifically written to see how well you can find common grammatical mistakes this site sees. Don't feel bad about taking a glace at the spelling and grammar standards, though, as there are a lot of errors to find! Make sure that you don't work off of the previous checker's work, also; everyone should do one check of their own from this base paragraph.

    paragraph 1: Charizard STRONGTH (open)
    The shift from DPP to BlackWhite brought many new Abilities to pokemon. With the advent of drought and SolarPower, Charizard has become a crux for many Sun teams. With it's high special attack, it can become a great Special Wall Breaker. With hazard setters and steel types such as Foretres; Ferrothorn and Skarm very prominent in OU, Charizard can use its Fire Type attacks to deal with them. When wielding a LO in the sun where Charizards Ability, Solar power, is activated, charizard can spam moves like Fire Blast to great affect. Be warned, however as its not all sunshine and daisy's for Charizard. If the opponent has set-up Stealth Rocks on your side of the field Charizard can often not switch-in. Bulky Waters such as Poli and Jelli can easily switch-in on Charizard, especially if the whether is not in it's favour. Not only that, but they can hit Charizard with a Super-Effective Scald for good damage. Specs Politoad in particular OHKO's Charizard with it's Hydro Pump, even without Rain. Its toptier mons like these that make people think Charizard isn't good in ou. Dont listen to them, though, as if you play to it's strengths it will work wonders for your team.


    Also, if everyone can keep their checks hidden by using [.hide][/hide], that would be great so as to give everyone a fair chance at finding the errors without anyone revealing them first. Just delete the period in the first bracket and you're good to go!

    EDIT: rewriting prose was not the goal of this first paragraph. I littered it with simple grammar errors, and of course many of the situations described here won't ever happen. Don't focus so much on rewording anything, and just try and find all the errors!
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    Well i am done.

    Edit: Yo, soul fly. Your check is kind of hard to look at. Maybe there's something wrong with your site or whatever, i'd get that fixed. (or maybe it's because the Hide interrupts the color thing?)

    ALSO I looked at another check so GG no more editing of this check.

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    The shift from DPP to BlackWhite brought many new Aabilities to pokemon. With the advent of dDrought and SolarPower, Charizard has become athe crux pfor many Sun teams. With it's high special attack, it can become a great Sspecial Wwall Bbreaker. With hazard setters and steel types such as Forretress; Ferrothorn and Skarmory very prominent in OU, Charizard can use its Fire T-type attacks to deal with them. When wielding a Life Orb in the sun where Charizard's Aability, Solar pPower, is activated, cCharizard can spam moves like Fire Blast to great aeffect. Be warned, however, as it's not all sunshine and daisy'iess for Charizard. If the opponent has set-up Stealth Rocks on your side of the field, Charizard can often cannot switch-in. Bulky Wwaters such as Politoed and Jellicent can easily switch-in on Charizard, especially if the wheather is not in it's favour. Not only that, but they can hit Charizard with a Ssuper-E effective Scald for good damage. Specs Politoaed in particular OHKO's Charizard with it's Hydro Pump, even without Rain. It's top-tier Pokemons like these that make people think Charizard isn't good in ouOU. Don't listen to them, though, as if you play to it's strengths it will work wonders for your team.

  6. Soul Fly

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    The shift from DPP to BlackWhite Black & White (BW) has brought many new Abilities to pokemon. With the advent of drought Drought and SolarPower Solar Power, Charizard has become a the crux for many Sun teams. With it's high special attack, it can become a great Special Wall Breaker breaker. With hazard setters and steel types steel-types such as Foretres Forretress; Ferrothorn and Skarm Skarmory very prominent in OU, Charizard can use its Fire Type fire-type attacks to deal with them. When wielding a LO Life Orb in the sun where Charizards Charizard's Ability, Solar power, is activated, charizard Charizard can spam moves like Fire Blast to great affect effect. Be warned, however, as its not all sunshine and daisy's daisies for Charizard. If the opponent has set-up set up Stealth Rocks on your side of the field Charizard can often not switch-in. Bulky Waters Water-types such as Poli and Jelli Politoed and Jellicent can easily switch-in on Charizard, especially if the whether weather is not in it's favour. Not only that, but they can hit Charizard with a Super-Effective super effective Scald for good damage. Specs Politoad in particular OHKO's OHKOes Charizard with it's Hydro Pump, even without Rain. Its It is toptier mons top tier Pokemon like these that make people think Charizard isn't good in ou OU. Dont Don't listen to them, though, as if you play to it's its strengths it will work wonders for your team.
  7. atsync

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    Decided to have a go at this.

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    The shift from DPP to BlackWhite BW brought many new Abilities abilities to pokemon Pokemon. With the advent of drought Drought and SolarPower Solar Power, Charizard has become a the crux for of many Sun teams. With it's its high special attack Special Attack, it can become a great Special Wall Breaker special wallbreaker. With hazard setters and steel types Steel-types, (comma) such as Foretres Forretress;, (comma) Ferrothorn, (comma) and Skarm Skarmory, (comma) being very prominent in OU, Charizard can use its Fire Type Fire-type attacks to deal with them. When wielding a LO Life Orb in the sun where Charizards Charizard's Ability ability, Solar power Power, is activated, charizard Charizard can spam moves like Fire Blast to great affect effect. Be warned, however, (comma) as its it's not all sunshine and daisy's daisies for Charizard. If the opponent has set-up set up Stealth Rocks Rock on your side of the field, (comma) Charizard can often not often can't switch-in switch in. Bulky Waters Water-types such as Poli Politoed and Jelli Jellicent can easily switch-in switch in on Charizard, especially if the whether weather is not in it's its favour favor. Not only that, but they can hit Charizard with a Super-Effective super effective Scald for good damage. Specs Politoad Choice Specs Politoed in particular OHKO's can OHKO Charizard with it's its Hydro Pump, even without Rain. Its It's toptier top-tier mons Pokemon like these that make people think Charizard isn't good in ou OU. Dont Don't listen to them, though, as; (semi-colon) if you play to it's Charizard's strengths, (comma) it will work wonders for your team.
  8. Hulavuta

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    My first time doing this, I am very excited :D Thank you for this opportunity.

    Removals in Red and additions in Blue. I also rearranged and reworded a few phrases if I felt they would work better that way.

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    The shift from DPP to BlackWhite brought many new Aabilities to pPokemon. With the advent of dDrought and SolarPower, Charizard has become a crux for many Ssun teams. With it's high sSpecial aAttack, it can become a great Sspecial Wwall Bbreaker. With hazard setters and sSteel types such as Forretres;s, Ferrothorn, and Skarmory very prominent in OU, Charizard can use its Fire T-type attacks to deal with them. When wielding a Life Orb in the sun, where Charizard's Aability, Solar pPower, is activated, cCharizard can spam moves like Fire Blast to great aeffect. Be warned, however, as it's not all sunshine and daisy'ies for Charizard. If the opponent has set-up Stealth Rocks on your side of the field, Charizard can often no't switch-i in often. Bulky Water-types such as Politoed and Jellicent can easily switch-in on Charizard, especially if the wheather is not in it's favour. Not only that, but they can also hit Charizard with a Ssuper-E effective Scald for good damage. Specs Politoaed in particular OHKO's Charizard with it's Hydro Pump, even without Rrain. It is toptier Pokemons like these that make people think Charizard isn't good in ouOU. Don't listen to them, though, as if you play to it's strengths it will work wonders for your team.
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    The shift from DPP to Black and White brought many new Aabilities to pPokemon. With the adventintroduction of dDrought and Solar(add space)Power, Charizard has become a cruxkey player for many Ssun teams. With it's high sSpecial aAttack, it can become a great Sk special Wwalls Breakersily. With entry hazard setters and sSteel -types, such as Forretres;s, (AC) Ferrothorn, (AC) and Skarmory, being very prominent in OU, Charizard can use it's Fire T-type attacks to deal with them.are a very useful asset. [terrible wording] When wielding a Life Orb in the sun, where Charizard's Aability, Solar pPower, is activated, cCharizard can spam moves likesuch as Fire Blast to great aeffect. Be warned, hHowever as its not all sunshine an, (AC) Charizard daisy's for Charizardoes have its flaws. If the opponent has set-up Stealth Rock set up on your side of the field, Charizard can often not switch- in. Bulky Water-types, such as Politoed and Jellicent, can easily switch- in on Charizard, especially if the wheather is not in it's favour. Not only that, but they can hit Charizard with a Ssuper-E effective Scald for goodheavy [ambiguous] damage. Choice Specs Politoaed in particular OHKO'es Charizard with it's Hydro Pump, even without Rrain. It is top-tier Pokemons like these that make people think Charizard isn't good in ouOU. Don't listen to them, though, as if you play to it's strengths, (AC) it will work wonders for your team.

    Gato, did you seriously have to include all of the stupid phrases :/
  10. cbt

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    what a grammatical mess:/

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    The shift from DPP to BlackWhite/W brought many new Aabilities to pokemon. W, and with the advent of dDrought and Solar Power, Charizard has become a crux for many Ssun teams. With it's high sSpecial aAttack, it can become a great Sspecial Wwall Bbreaker. W and with hazard setters and sSteel types such as Forretres;s, Ferrothorn and Skarmory very prominent in OU, Charizard can use its Fire T-type attacks to deal with them easily. When wielding a LOife Orb in the sun where Charizard's Aability, Solar pPower, is activated, cCharizard can spam moves like Fire Blast to great aeffect. Be warned, however, as its not all sunshine and daisy'roses for Charizard. If the opponent has set- up Stealth Rocks on your side of the field, Charizard can often not switch-in. Bulky Water-types such as Politoed and Jellicent can easily switch- in on Charizard, especially if the wheeather is not in it's favour. Not only that, but they also can hit Charizard with a Ssuper-Eeffective Scald for good damage. Specs Politoaded, in particular. OHKO's Charizard with it's Hydro Pump, even without Rrain. Its tTop-tier Pokemons like these that make people thinkbelieve Charizard isn't good in ouOU. Don't listen to them, though, as if you play Charizard to it's strengths, it will work wonders for your team.
  11. Governess

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    Whoa, why didn't anyone tell me about this? :<

    Additions are Blue
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    The shift from DPP to BlackWhite brought many new Aabilities to pPokemon. With the advent of dDrought and Solar (space) Power, Charizard has become athe center (don't use crux) for of many Ssun teams. With it's high sSpecial aAttack, it can become a great Sspecial Wwall Bbreaker. With entry hazard setters and sSteel -types, (AC) such as Forretres;s, (AC) Ferrothorn, (AC) and Skarmory, (AC) very prominent in OU, Charizard can use its Fire T-type attacks to deal with them. When wielding a Life Orb in the sun where Charizard's Aability, Solar pPower, is activated, cCharizard can spam moves likesuch as Fire Blast to great aeffect. Be warned, however, (AC) as its not all sthat great for Charizard (Sunshine and daisy'es for Charizarde a no-no). If the opponent has set- up Stealth Rocks on your side of the field, Charizard can often not switch- in. Bulky Waters-type Pokemon, (AC) such as Politoed and Jellicent, (AC) can easily switch- in on Charizard, especially if the wheather is not in it's favour. Not only that, but they can hit Charizard with a Ssuper-E effective Scald for good damage. Choice Specs Politoad in particular OHKO'es Charizard with it's Hydro Pump, even without Rrain. It's top-tier Pokemons like these that make people think Charizard isn't good in ouOU. Dont listen to them, though, as; if you play to itCharizard's strengths, (AC) it will work wonders for your team.
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    This is my first am check in at least 5 months lol

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    The shift from DPP to BlackWhite BW brought many new Abilities to older Pokemon pokemon. With the advent of drought Drought and SolarPower Solar Power, Charizard has become a crux for many Sun teams. (add comma) and with With it's its high special attack, it can become a great Special Attacking Wallbreaker Wall Breaker. With hazard setters and steel types Steel-types such as Foretres; Forretress (add comma) Ferrothorn and Skarmory being very prominent in OU, Charizard can use its Fire-Type Fire-type attacks to deal with them. When wielding a LO Life Orb in the sun where Charizards Charizard's Ability, Solar power Power, is activated, charizard Charizard can spam moves like such as Fire Blast to great affect effect. Be warned, however (add comma) as its it's not all sunshine and daisy's daises for Charizard. If the opponent has set-up Stealth Rocks on your side of the field (add comma) Charizard can often not switch-in often. In addition (add comma) Bulky Waters such as Poli and Jelli Politoed and Jellicient can easily switch-in on into Charizard, especially if the whether weather is not in it's favour its favor, Not only that, but they can and hit Charizard with a Super-Effective Scald for good damage super effective STAB move. Choice Specs Politoed Politoad in particular OHKO's Charizard with it's Hydro Pump, even without Rain. Its toptier mons like these that This makes many people think Charizard isn't good in ou OU. Don't Don't listen to them, though however, as if you play to it's its strengths (add comma) it will work wonders for your team.
  13. Jukain

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    btw, talked to governess about her check on irc (not sure how much it matters because I'm not official GP but whatever) :/

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    [17:44] <Governess> That thread was a pretty good test for amateur checkers though
    [17:44] <Governess> Didn't even know it existed
    [17:45] <+pokemonnumeros> it's been inactive
    [17:45] <+pokemonnumeros> for forever
    [17:45] <+pokemonnumeros> that's why you didn't know about it
    [17:45] <+pokemonnumeros> :/
    [17:46] <+pokemonnumeros> i suggest adding comments at then end of sentences
    [17:46] <+pokemonnumeros> after the period
    [17:46] <+pokemonnumeros> because you're using the diff app
    [17:46] <+pokemonnumeros> the comments get mixed in with the rest of the diff
    [17:46] <Governess> Mmm I was gonna do that, but the dumb part of me decided against it
    [17:46] <Governess> <.>
    [17:46] <+pokemonnumeros> also
    [17:46] <Governess> Ty, I'll keep that in mind for next time
    [17:46] * &tennisace (~Justin@oh.you.want.a) Quit (Broken pipe)
    [17:46] <+pokemonnumeros> you missed the misspelling of "Politoed
    [17:47] <+pokemonnumeros> "
    [17:47] <Governess> O
    [17:47] <Governess> Oops
    [17:47] <+pokemonnumeros> you also misspelled "Skarmory" when correcting iut
    [17:47] <+pokemonnumeros> *it
    [17:48] <+pokemonnumeros> "With the advent of" is another of those bad phrases
    [17:48] <+pokemonnumeros> also "Charizard has become the center for many sun teams"
    [17:48] <+pokemonnumeros> for should be of
    [17:48] <Governess> There was a lot of those but Gato said to focus on the grammatical errors more than the phrases itself
    [17:48] <Governess> .3.
    [17:48] <+pokemonnumeros> everything else is perfect
    [17:48] <Governess> Ty
    [17:48] <+pokemonnumeros> yeah :/
    [17:48] * Birkal (Mibbit@synIRC-BF8FDD0E.luther.edu) has joined #grammar
    [17:49] <+pokemonnumeros> oh, actually
    [17:49] <+pokemonnumeros> there's one more sentence
    [17:50] <+pokemonnumeros> "With entry hazard setters and Steel-types, such as Forretress, Ferrothorn, and Skarmory, very prominent in OU, Charizard can use its Fire-type attacks to deal with them."
    [17:50] <+pokemonnumeros> this is with your corrections; it's still a poorly written sentence
    [17:50] <+pokemonnumeros> afterward
    [17:51] <Governess> Which part? You mean 'to deal with them"?
    [17:51] * Andrew (I.Am@A.Super.Special.Awesome.Brownie) has joined #grammar
    [17:51] * BarackObama sets mode: +o Andrew
    [17:52] <+pokemonnumeros> everything from "Charizard" to the end of the sentence
    [17:52] * kacaw (~jonathanr@synIRC-F013DD3.zoominternet.net) has joined #grammar
    [17:52] <Governess> Ooo
    [17:52] <+pokemonnumeros> read that out loud
    [17:52] * BarackObama sets mode: +h macle
    [17:52] <Governess> Yea, youre right; still doesn't make any sense :/
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    The shift from DPP to BlackWhite BW brought many new Aabilities to pPokemon. With the advent of dDrought and Solar(space) Power, Charizard has become a crux powerful tool for many Ssun teams. With it'(RA)s high sSpecial aAttack, it can become a great Sspecial Wwall(no space)Bbreaker. Charizard can use its Fire-type attacks to deal Wwith the hazard setters and sSteel-types such as Forretress;,(comma instead) Ferrothorn,(AC) and Skarmory which are very prominent in OU, Charizard can use its Fire Type attacks to deal with them. When wielding a Life Orb in the sun,(AC) where Charizard'(AA)s Aability, Solar pPower, is activated, cCharizard can spam moves like Fire Blast to great aeffect. Be warned, however,(AC) as it'(AA)s not all sunshine and daisy'ies for Charizard. If the opponent has set-(space)up Stealth Rocks on your side of the field,(AC) Charizard can often not rarely switch-(space)in. Bulky Water-types such as Politoed and Jellicent can easily switch-(SPACE)in on Charizard, especially if the whether weather is not in it'(RA)s favour. Not only that, but they can hit Charizard with a Ssuper-(space)Eeffective Scald for good damage. Specs Politoaed in particular OHKO'es Charizard with it'(RA)s Hydro Pump, even without Rrain. It'(AA)s top-tier mons Pokemon like these that make people think Charizard isn't good in ouOU. Don'(AA)t listen to them, though, as if you play to it'(RA)s strengths it will work wonders for your team.


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    The shift from DPP to BW brought many new abilities to Pokemon. With the advent of Drought and Solar Power, Charizard has become a powerful tool for many sun teams. With its high Special Attack, it can become a great special wallbreaker. Charizard can use its Fire-type attacks to deal with the hazard setters and Steel-types such as Forretress, Ferrothorn, and Skarmory which are very prominent in OU. When wielding a Life Orb in the sun, where Charizard's ability, Solar Power, is activated, Charizard can spam moves like Fire Blast to great effect. Be warned, however, as it's not all sunshine and daisies for Charizard. If the opponent has set up Stealth Rock on your side of the field, Charizard can rarely switch in. Bulky Water-types such as Politoed and Jellicent can easily switch in on Charizard, especially if the weather is not in its favor. Not only that, but they can hit Charizard with a super effective Scald for good damage. Specs Politoed in particular OHKOes Charizard with its Hydro Pump, even without rain. It's top-tier Pokemon like these that make people think Charizard isn't good in OU. Don't listen to them, though, as if you play to its strengths it will work wonders for your team.


    basically only fixed simple spelling errors and stuff as per gato's instructions; would have rewritten the first two sentences in compliance with the spelling and grammar guide but they included errors so it was kinda like gato and redew wanted us to keep them? so i did. will talk to gato tonight to see if i fucked up tho and should have actually rewritten it to be good
  15. Governess

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    I'm a she ;-; But ok, approving that.

    Edit: and good luck Pwnemon! We work towards a common goal, it seems.
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    Oh, wow. Some of these checks are really good! A few errors, but still, good! Gato and I have talked over IRC about some of them, and I'm proud to say that these checks are good. Hopefully the answer sheet will help you see any errors!

    Great job, guys! Mainly posting to say that the answer sheet will most likely be posted Saturday at some point.
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    The shift from DPP to BlackWhite BW 1 brought many new abilities 2 to pokemon. With the introduction advent 3 of Drought 4 and Solar Power 5, Charizard has become a crux key player 6 for many sun 7 teams. With its 8 high Special Attack 9, it can become a great special wallbreaker 10. With entry 11 hazard setters and Steel-types 12 such as Forretress, Ferrothorn, and Skarmory 13 very prominent in OU, Charizard can use its Fire-type 14 attacks to deal with them. When wielding a Life Orb 15 in the sun where Charizard's 16 ability 17, Solar Power 18, is activated, Charizard 19 can spam moves like Fire Blast to great effect 20. Be warned, however, 21 as it's 22 not all sunshine and daisy's not all perfect 23 for Charizard. If the opponent has set up 24 Stealth Rocks 25 on your side of the field Charizard can often not switch in 26. Bulky Water-types 27 such as Politoed and Jellicent 28 can easily switch in 29 on Charizard, especially if the weather 30 is not in its 31 favor 32. Not only that, but they can hit Charizard with a super effective 33 Scald for good damage. Choice 34 Specs Politoad in particular OHKOes 35 Charizard with its 36 Hydro Pump, even without rain 37. It's 38 top-tier 39 Pokemon 40 like these that make people think Charizard isn't good in OU. 41 Don't 42 listen to them, though, as if you play to its 43 strengths it will work wonders for your team.


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    1. Generations are abbreviated by RBY, GSC, ADV, DPP, and BW, not anything else. BlackWhite isn't a word!
    2. Abilities is not capitalized
    3. "With the advent" has become somewhat of a banned phrase. This sentence places a lot of stress on generation changes, which are to be avoided. However, this would count as a prose revision, which I wasn't really looking for this time
    4. The abilities themselves are always capitalized
    5. SolarPower isn't a word
    6. Crux is another banned word, for many reasons. It's unintuitive, usually pointless fluff, and is very unoriginal. It can be easily replaced like I've done here
    7. Sun, rain, sand, and hail are never capitalized as field effects, though the moves Sandstorm, Hail, Rain Dance, and Sunny Day are
    8. Its is possessive, whereas it's means "it is"
    9. Stats are always capitalized
    10. When talking about "physical or special", don't capitalize it, such as when saying "special wall", and wallbreaker is a coined non-capitalized term; one word
    11. Entry hazards, never just "hazards"
    12. Types are always done as capitals with a -type following, such as Grass-type
    13. A combination of spelling errors, abbreviations, commas instead of semicolons in a list like this, and the use of no serial comma (an "optional" third comma in a list Smogon enforces
    14. -type again
    15. Don't use abbreviations in analyses
    16. Possessive apostrophe
    17. Capitalization
    18. Same
    19. Same
    20. "Affect" and "effect" are difficult to explain, you can find out about it here
    21. A comma should usually follow however, except in rare cases
    22. It's and its again
    23. Sunshines and daises is one of those bad phrases again!
    24. set-up is an adjective; "a set-up Slamence" means a Pokemon that has boosted up already. Setup, set up, and set-up are all different and explained in the standards better!
    25. Stealth Rocks is not a term
    26. Switch-in is a noun, such as "Jellicent makes a great switch-in to Charizard". Switch in means something switching in
    27. "Bulky waters" is not a phrase, it should always be Water-types
    28. Capitalization
    29. Again, switch in
    30. Weather and whether are different, weather is the atmospheric, rainy type
    31. Its again
    32. Favor is an Americanized spelling of favour, color and defense are preferred to colour and defence, likewise
    33. Super effective is neither hyphenated nor capitalized ever
    34. Abbreviations: always use the full item name!
    35. OHKO's is not a term; OHKOs is the plural form of "OHKO", while OHKOes means something can OHKO another Pokemon
    36. Its
    37. Weather is not capitalized
    38. It's
    39. Toptier isn't a word!
    40. Capitalization
    41. Tiers are always capitalized
    42. Contractions always use apostrophes
    43. Its one more time
    As you can probably tell, this paragraph was worded very badly. A lot of the fixes suggested could have been made by changing the wording (actually, completely rewriting!) of the analysis. Something with phrasing this bad would never be allowed on-site even with the grammatical changes! However, my goal for this paragraph was to just see exactly how many errors you could pick out. Things may be switched up a bit for the future paragraphs. Me and Redew may also go back through everyone's submissions and go over them, but all the answers are here!
  19. atsync

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    Is there any reason why "pokemon" isn't capitalized in the first sentence?
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    My slow friend missed something!

    Pokemon should always be capitalized.

    Anyways, here's the new thing to check:

    HTML:
    Politoed
    
    [hide][SET]
    
    Name: choice toed
    Move 1: Hydro pump
    Move 2: Ice Beam
    Move 3: Focis blast
    Move 4: hp [grass]
    Item: choice specs
    Ability: drizle
    Nature: modest
    Evs: 252 HP/252 SpAtk/4 Spe
    Ivs: 31/30/31/30/31/31[/hide]
    
    Keldeo
    
    [hide][SET]
    name: Choice Scarf
    Move 1: Surf
    Move 2: Hydro pump
    Move 3: Hidden Power [Ice]
    Move 4: secret Swrd
    Item: Choice scarf
    Nature: Timid
    Evs: 252 SpA/252 Spe/4 HP[/hide]
    
    Treecko
    
    [hide][SET]
    name: attacking lead
    move 1: LEaf storm
    move 2: Hidden Power Fire
    move 3: Giga Drain
    move 4: Quick Attack
    Item: Eviolite / Focus Sash
    Ability: Overgrow
    Nature: Hasty / Naïve
    Evs: 36 HP / 240 SpA / 200 Spe[/hide]
    
    Swampert
    
    [hide][set]
    name: Endeavor
    move: Endeavor
    move: Sub
    move: Hydro Pump / surf
    move: IceBeam
    item: Salac Berry
    nature: Timid
    evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe[/hide]
    
    Tauros
    
    [hide][SET]
    name: Standard
    move 1: Body Slam
    move 2: Hyper Beam
    move 3: Earthquake
    move 4: Blizzard [/hide]
    (Just c/p the things in the code into another post and work from there.) This week we'll be doing some sets for you to look at. Not a lot, but there are a lot of errors. We'll probably leave these open for about three to four days depending on how many people do these. AND I'LL BE ON TIME THANKS
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    Cool, but that doesn't solve what to do about Toed. I just did what I had to do there, but i'm unsure, since Set Titles are usually semi-immune to GP.
    I mean, it tells me what to do with Choice, but... not Toed.
    Politoed
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    [SET]

    N
    name: cChoice Specs Politoed
    Mmove 1: Hydro pPump
    Mmove 2: Ice Beam
    Mmove 3: Focis bus Blast
    Mmove 4: hp [gHidden Power Grass]
    I

    item: cChoice sSpecs
    Ability: drizle
    N
    nature: mModest
    Eevs: 252 HP / 252 SpAtk / 4 Spe
    Ivs: 31/30/31/30/31/31

    Keldeo
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    [SET]
    name: Choice Scarf
    Mmove 1: Surf
    Mmove 2: Hydro pPump
    Mmove 3: Hidden Power [Ice]
    M

    move 4: sSecret Sword
    Iitem: Choice sScarf
    Nnature: Timid
    Eevs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe / 4 HP

    Treecko
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    [SET]
    name: aAttacking lLead
    move 1: LEeaf sStorm
    move 2: Hidden Power Fire
    move 3: Giga Drain
    move 4: Quick Attack
    Iitem: Eviolite / Focus Sash
    Aability: Overgrow
    Nnature: Hasty / Naïve
    Eevs: 36 HP / 240 SpA / 200 Spe

    Swampert
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    [set]
    name: Endeavor
    move 1: Endeavor
    move 2: Sub
    move 3: Hydro Pump / sSurf
    move 4: IceBeam
    item: Salac Berry
    nature: Timid
    evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

    Tauros
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    [SET]
    name: Standard
    move 1: Body Slam
    move 2: Hyper Beam
    move 3: Earthquake
    move 4: Blizzard
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    http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=102407
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    Politoed

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    [SET]

    N
    name: cChoice toed
    M
    Specs
    m
    ove 1: Hydro pPump
    Mmove 2: Ice Beam
    Mmove 3: Focis bus Blast
    Mmove 4: hp [grass]
    I
    Hidden Power Grass
    i
    tem: cChoice sSpecs
    Aability: dDrizzle
    Nnature: mModest
    Eevs: 252 HP/252 SpAtk/4 Spe
    Ivs: 31/30/31/30/31/31
    (add space)/(add space)252 SpA(add space)/(add space)4 Spe
    [hidden power ivs aren't included unless they're distinct from the standard]


    Keldeo

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    [SET]
    name: Choice Scarf
    Mmove 1: Surf
    Mmove 2: Hydro pPump
    Mmove 3: Hidden Power [Ice]
    M

    m
    ove 4: sSecret Sword
    Iitem: Choice sScarf
    Nnature: Timid
    Eevs: 252 SpA/4 HP(space)/(space)252 SpA(add space)/(add space)252 Spe/4 HP


    Treecko

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    [SET]
    name: aAttacking lLead
    move 1: LEeaf storm
    move 2: Hidden Power Fire
    move 3: Giga Drain
    move 4: Quick Attack
    Iitem: Eviolite / Focus Sash
    Aability: Overgrow
    Nnature: Hasty / Naïive
    Eevs: 36 HP / 240 SpA / 200 Spe


    Swampert

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    [setSET]
    name: Endeavor
    move 1: Endeavor
    move 2: Substitute
    move 3: Hydro Pump / sSurf
    move 4: Ice(add space)Beam
    item: Salac Berry
    nature: Timid
    evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe


    Tauros

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    [SET]
    name: Standard
    move 1: Body Slam
    move 2: Hyper Beam
    move 3: Earthquake
    move 4: Blizzard
    [if this was a gen 5 analysis, then item, ability, nature, and evs would be needed, but it's for rby]
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    Politoed (open)
    [SET]
    Name name: choice toed Choice Specs
    Move move 1: Hydro pump Pump
    Move move 2: Ice Beam
    Move move 3: Focis blast Focus Blast
    Move move 4: hp [grass] Hidden Power Grass
    Item item: choice specs Choice Specs
    Ability ability: drizle Drizzle
    Nature nature: modest Modest
    Evs evs: 252 HP(add space)/(add space)252 SpAtk(add space)/(add space)4 Spe
    Ivs: 31/30/31/30/31/31 (I don't think ivs need to be listed in this case)


    Keldeo (open)
    [SET]
    name: Choice Scarf
    Move move 1: Surf
    Move move 2: Hydro pump Pump
    Move move 3: Hidden Power [Ice] (no brackets around Hidden Power type)
    Move move 4: secret Swrd Secret Sword
    Item item: Choice scarf Scarf
    Nature nature: Timid
    Evs evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA(add space)/(add space)252 Spe/4 HP (reordered evs)


    Treecko (open)
    [SET]
    name: attacking lead Attacking Lead
    move 1: LEaf storm Leaf Storm
    move 2: Hidden Power Fire
    move 3: Giga Drain
    move 4: Quick Attack
    Item item: Eviolite / Focus Sash
    Ability ability: Overgrow
    Nature nature: Hasty / Naïve Naive (don't spell "naive" with the diaeresis)
    Evs evs: 36 HP / 240 SpA / 200 Spe


    Swampert (open)

    [setSET]
    name: Endeavor
    move 1: Endeavor
    move 2: Sub Substitute
    move 3: Hydro Pump / surf Surf
    move 4: IceBeam Ice Beam
    item: Salac Berry

    nature: Timid
    evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
    (apparently this is from 3rd gen so no need to worry about ability I guess)


    Tauros (open)

    [SET]
    name: Standard
    move 1: Body Slam
    move 2: Hyper Beam
    move 3: Earthquake
    move 4: Blizzard(gonna assume that this is from RBY, in which case it doesn't need item, ability, nature, evs, or ivs)
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    Politoed

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    [SET]

    Nname: cChoice toed
    M
    Specs
    m
    ove 1: Hydro pPump
    Mmove 2: Ice Beam
    Mmove 3: Focis bus Blast
    Mmove 4: hp [gHidden Power Grass]
    I

    i
    tem: cChoice sSpecs
    Aability: dDrizzle
    Nnature: mModest
    E

    e
    vs: 252 HP / 252 SpAtk/ / 4 Spe
    Ivs: 31/30/31/30/31/31
    (Space needs to be added between them)
    (IVs should'nt be shown unless it is specific to the set [outside of Hidden Power]) (Capitalization must be consistent for Pokemon moves / names)


    Keldeo

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    [SET]
    name: Choice Scarf
    Mmove 1: Surf
    Mmove 2: Hydro pPump
    Mmove 3: Hidden Power [Ice]
    M
    (No [] )
    m
    ove 4: sSecret Sword
    Iitem: Choice sScarf
    Nnature: Timid
    Eevs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe/4 (It's HP first, then SpA, then Spe.)


    Treecko

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    [SET]
    name: aAttacking lLead
    move 1: LEeaf sStorm
    move 2: Hidden Power Fire
    move 3: Giga Drain
    move 4: Quick Attack
    Iitem: Eviolite / Focus Sash
    Aability: Overgrow
    Nnature: Hasty / Naïve
    E
    ive (No ï )
    e
    vs: 36 HP / 240 SpA / 200 Spe (Erm, this doesn't add to 508.. Would it be 4 HP, 252 SpA, 252 Spe, or something of the sort?)


    Swampert

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    [setSET]
    name: Endeavor
    move 1: Endeavor
    move 2: Substitute
    move 3: Hydro Pump / sSurf
    move 4: Ice Beam
    item: Salac Berry
    ability: Torrent (Most likely)

    nature: Timid
    evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe


    Tauros

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    [SET]
    name: Standard
    move 1: Body Slam
    move 2: Hyper Beam
    move 3: Earthquake
    move 4: Blizzard

    Mmk, going for it.

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