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Most Generation PRNG Help / Information

Discussion in 'Wi-Fi' started by mingot, Mar 16, 2009.

  1. Showsni

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    Well, for Elm calls you'll need to progress until you've beaten the Elite Four (and been to Kanto, I think), and have a Pokémon with Pokérus; though it seems several other trainers can be used instead of Elm, their responses having the same pattern (I believe Irwin is one?). If that's so, you don't need to advance very far at all before you can begin.
  2. FireApe2135

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    Those are my seconds and delay, what should I choose? or should I narrow it down?
  3. Showsni

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    Which game?

    It's best to be at leasting hitting the same seconds consistently, though if you think you can get 14 every time that should be enough.

    Alternatively, you can use a timer like emloop (see guide on first page); in the long run, learning to use such a timer would help a lot more, and you don't need to worry about weird dates on your Pokémon.
  4. FireApe2135

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    I am using Platinum. And didn't mingot say though that if you are just starting RNGing that it is better to first understand the RNG reporter?
  5. Showsni

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    Well, you use emloop in conjunction with RNGReporter. But if you want to do some going for your average delay first, go for it! Good luck!
  6. FireApe2135

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    Thank you!! One other question, would switching the DS on which I am RNGing change my delay/seconds?
  7. SwampertGirl

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    Okay, I'm RNGing Latios in the E4, when I beat it to get my base frame (confirmed delay by calling Elm 10 times), it was 14. When I went through again, I advanced the frame by 9 using the radio to get frame 23. However, Latios wasn't shiny. When I checked it, it was on frame 26.

    Was it something I did wrong? Or should I try 6 advancements this time?
  8. Showsni

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    You mean, saving in the foyer, checking your seed there, then going through the Elite Four? I guess it can be inconsistent, because of the NPC or other reasons. You could try 6 advancements...

    Do you have any roamers out? If you do, you can RNG in Lance's room, which is easier.
  9. Jimboman

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    If something like that happened to me (and it does all the time), I would try 6 advancements. If it happens again, there's something advancing your frame or you're doing something wrong. Try 6 advancements first.
  10. SwampertGirl

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    Well, I'm one step away into the E4 rooms. As soon as the game starts, I immediately go straight to the Poke'Gear and check my delay with Elm. When confirmed, I advance via radio. Then slaughterfest through the E4.

    Unfortunately I caught the dogs, since I thought you could RNG Latios from the Vermillion building...

    It's the same delay and frame, I would assume the NPC moves the same (correct me if I'm wrong). I'm taking a minor break.

    Edit- I think I do see a pattern starting... I advanced by 10, when it was originally 4, making it 14. Second time 10, 9 Advanced... Hmm. I think the NPC made me overshoot the target...
  11. Bucky

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    I think this is kind of trivial but I'm a little confused. I'm using Pandora's Box to find a TID & SID I can use to hit a specific spread for a Method J Pokemon. And when I plug all of the information into the RNG Reporter, it won't generate any spreads at all under Method J. It only generates the spread for Method 1. Can anyone tell me exactly what I should do?
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    theres a chance that the spread you want doesn't exist as a method J spread, there are some that don't
  13. Suvont

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    All of these guides are fine as long as the spread has a higher delay, but what if anything can I do when my average delay falls below that of most of the good physical spreads in the "Physical Spreads" excel spreadsheet?
  14. Showsni

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    Did you try it with a synchroniser of the right nature? Sometimes, some of the Method 1 spreads that don't exist under Method J will appear with a syncher.

    You mean when you're average is higher than the spread you want? To get them, the only way is to change your year. (Subtract a year to increase delay by 1, I think). If your average is lower than the one you want, you can use a timer.
  15. Suvont

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    So if my average delay is 620, and the delay of the spread that I want is 595 I have to add 25 years off my DS calender?
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    If I'm standing in a bush of grass happiness tapping for a shiny egg, is it possible to sweet scent, catch a new pokemon, and figure out how many taps are left?

    Or else, is there a way to figure out how many taps are left outside of just counting them yourself?

    I just spent the better part of an hour tapping up to 890 just to find my egg not shiny-- it's maddening . . .
  17. Showsni

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    Other way round, I think... You're aiming for a 595 delay in 2010. So, that's a 620 delay in 1985. I'm not sure if the DS calender will allow that...

    To find out how many are left, switch to the coin flip app and flip it ten or so times, making a note of the results, then search (I think it has to be manually) for that string of results. You'll have to recalculate how many flips and taps are left yourself, though (remember switching back to the happiness checker advances by 2*n).

    You should be on RNGReporter's main window after generating with your seed to do this, so you can see what each coin flip result should be.
  18. Suvont

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    Which brings me to my next question. Is there any way that I can work to reduce my delay I've seen some posted delays as low as 594. Is there a method to that sort of thing. Or does it depend on your version? I'm currently playing around in Diamond.
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    Well, I can hit 596 pretty easily on my Platinum; it might just depend on the specific cartridge you use. (Possibly even which DS you use, though I haven't tried a different). Or, just button mash faster... Sorry I can't be much help here.
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    So after reading more in detail about the IRNG, correct me if I'm wrong but

    1 coin flip advances by 1

    1 double tap happiness checker advances by 12 (with 6 pokemon party)
    1 switch to happiness checker advances by 12

    therefore:

    12 x coin flip = 1 x double tap = 1 x switch?

    So, if I switched to the coin app, flipped the coin 12 times (to see the results),

    and then switched back to the happiness checker,

    I could count it the same as if I had double clicked twice, right?

    The above is probably not useful really, but it might be useful to help me keep track of where I am . . . I want to keep flipping and tapping as separate as possible in my head.
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    For now. but I am going to be adding vertical searching to coin flips and natures (for people who hatch a few) to a future version of RNG Reporter.
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    If Im RNGing for Raikou in the burnt tower, does the step I take to make them run away affect the frame at all?
  23. Bucky

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    Can anyone tell me how to go about finding good Method J spreads pretty please?
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    When calibrating my egg's starting frame (for the IV step) in HG/SS, do I need to do it several times, like in D/P/Pt, or is 1-2 enough, since there's only one NPC in the area?
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    Is a delay of 520 possible in HGSS? just wondering.

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