Okay, gonna call this round early for me (peaked at only 1730 Glicko2 :c ) because I'm getting like -20 for every loss and +3 for every win, and quite frankly, the last 3 games have been hax-plagued and I'm not enjoying playing this stall-ish team anymore. However, Shaymin is a god damn beast. Seed Flare demolishes pretty much everything, Earth Power brings down whatever Seed Flare doesn't and with HP Fire and Leech Seed there's usually one switch-in to you - Dragonite, and he doesn't enjoy taking Leech Seeds. Jellicent is an amazing pokémon, he pretty much shuts stall on it's own (except for the rare Sableye), spinblocks and is great against rain. Shits on Ferro too. Hippo is bulky as hell, we all know that. But his SpDef set is one of, if not THE best weather starter. Here are the sets I used, in case someone wants to give them a try: Hide (Move your mouse to the hide area to reveal the content) Show Hide Hide Hide Jellicent @ Leftovers Trait: Water Absorb EVs: 248 HP / 44 Spd / 216 Def Bold Nature - Will-O-Wisp - Taunt - Recover - Shadow Ball Shaymin @ Leftovers Trait: Natural Cure EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk Timid Nature - Seed Flare - Earth Power - Hidden Power [Fire] - Leech Seed Hippowdon @ Leftovers Trait: Sand Stream EVs: 4 Def / 252 HP / 252 SDef Careful Nature - Stealth Rock - Whirlwind - Slack Off - Earthquake I used them in a semi-stallish team with a RestTalk Shed Shell Heatran, Forretress, and the last poke alternated between AcroGliscor and SD Landorus for wallbreaking - and I have to say it was better than what I had originally expected.