5th Gen PRNG Help / Info - Latest: RNG Reporter 9.96.5, PPRNG 1.15.0

To be honest, EV training is one of the least significant parts of building a team. If it takes you more than a few hours to do it all, you're probably doing something wrong.
 
Alright, so I am having quite a bit of trouble here, trying to C-Gear Entralink abuse. As far as I can tell, the only parameter I need is my MAC address, which I have (and checked several times).

Every time I try to hit a seed and search for the resulting IVs, they can't be found within 999 frames and 9 seconds (frames 1 through 100 on a desired frame of 84). Not only this, but I resorted to the MTIVRNG Seed Check code, and when I put the value in PPRNG and catch something, the spread is nowhere to be found in the reporter (I am assuming you convert $ to hex, convert ID to hex, THEN put them together and the result is your seed, but I have also tried putting them together and then converting to hex).

Yeah, I am at a loss as to why none of this is working. I was able to RNG Abuse perfectly fine in 4th Gen.

Using PPRNG 1.05 and RNG Reporter 9.81. MAC address is 00-25-A0-FF-39-79.
 
it may be the timer0. try to use the "simple seed generation" to find out wich seed you are getting by putting different timer0 values.
the "MTIVRNG seed check code" has to be used by converting the money, then converting the ID and finally by putting them together to form a 8-ciphers hexadecimal number. if the number has less than 8 ciphers, you have to add zeros in front of it.
 
To be honest, EV training is one of the least significant parts of building a team. If it takes you more than a few hours to do it all, you're probably doing something wrong.

lol true. But each battle you can earn at most 14 EVs, which means vitamins can save about 7 battles. It's still nontrivial.

More importantly, I saw a couple of posts asking whether one can RNG abuse using Sweet Scent in the Giant Chasm. The answer is yes, and the way to do it is to save in the Giant Chasm, advance the month of your DS by 1 (just need to change the season), enter the game, run around until you get a wild encounter, defeat it or escape. At this point the season will have changed, and the fog is removed. Now you save, and when you load the game again, you have one Sweet Scent before the fog comes back again.

I needed this information some time ago, but couldn't find it anywhere on the Internet. I learned this trick through a friend. I thought this information might help some of you, too.
 
So, something odd is happening. I have a seed, for which I have to do 122 Chatters to get to PID frame 180, which is shiny. I used this shiny spread before, so I know I have to do 122 Chatters. But, when I do 121, I'm landing on 178, and when I do 122, I'm landing on 181, so what do I do wrong?
 
  • RNG reporter 9.81
  • I am trying to RNG abuse a Reshiram, useing Standard / non-Seed RNG Abuse.
  • Mac Address: 00-09-BF-C9-33-3E
  • I verify with the IV's of the captured Reshiram.
  • Target IV's 30,31,20,31,23,31 with frame 1 and the stats I get are, 164, 137, 99, 168, 134, 113.
I am using a DS (original) there is no game in the Advance slot. I have watched the video many times to make sure i understood how not to mess this up, and I constantly hit the same mark so I even chose a Target IV with 1 frame, and no button press to try to fool proof this. I know I'm not hitting my mark because the HP IV at 30-31 on a level 50 Reshiram is 175. I just need to know what I'm doing wrong here. I do understand how to RNG Abuse in Gen 4, but I was never able to hit my seed, but once. I just think I'm missing something. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
it may be the timer0. try to use the "simple seed generation" to find out wich seed you are getting by putting different timer0 values.
the "MTIVRNG seed check code" has to be used by converting the money, then converting the ID and finally by putting them together to form a 8-ciphers hexadecimal number. if the number has less than 8 ciphers, you have to add zeros in front of it.

In his case, it cannot be timer0 because C-Gear Entralink abuse is not Standard Abuse.

@wordproblems: Have you talked to the old man before entering the Entralink for the first time, and have you checked the High Link box on EonTimer? If so, could you maybe go a little more in depth as to exactly what your steps are while RNGing?

lol true. But each battle you can earn at most 14 EVs, which means vitamins can save about 7 battles. It's still nontrivial.

More importantly, I saw a couple of posts asking whether one can RNG abuse using Sweet Scent in the Giant Chasm. The answer is yes, and the way to do it is to save in the Giant Chasm, advance the month of your DS by 1 (just need to change the season), enter the game, run around until you get a wild encounter, defeat it or escape. At this point the season will have changed, and the fog is removed. Now you save, and when you load the game again, you have one Sweet Scent before the fog comes back again.

I needed this information some time ago, but couldn't find it anywhere on the Internet. I learned this trick through a friend. I thought this information might help some of you, too.

Don't have my DS to test this out at the moment, but if this is true, it's fantastic information. I remember people mentioning that it might be possible to stop the weather at the Desert Resort too. Hoping I can see about those Dittos now, heheh. *_*

  • RNG reporter 9.81
  • I am trying to RNG abuse a Reshiram, useing Standard / non-Seed RNG Abuse.
  • Mac Address: 00-09-BF-C9-33-3E
  • I verify with the IV's of the captured Reshiram.
  • Target IV's 30,31,20,31,23,31 with frame 1 and the stats I get are, 164, 137, 99, 168, 134, 113.
I am using a DS (original) there is no game in the Advance slot. I have watched the video many times to make sure i understood how not to mess this up, and I constantly hit the same mark so I even chose a Target IV with 1 frame, and no button press to try to fool proof this. I know I'm not hitting my mark because the HP IV at 30-31 on a level 50 Reshiram is 175. I just need to know what I'm doing wrong here. I do understand how to RNG Abuse in Gen 4, but I was never able to hit my seed, but once. I just think I'm missing something. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

It may just be timer0 messing you up in this case. You can't really control timer0, so you'll probably just need to keep repeating your steps until your timer0 happens to be the correct one for your seed. That, or you could search for a new seed with the different timer0 you've been getting. Even without a button press your timer0 can still fluctuate. But it's good that your results are consistent :D
 
So whats the process for RNGing shiny fossils? i never got an answer to that

also on standard seeds if i find a seed thats in bold then its syncronizable right? so for example i find a spread i like but its serious nature and in bold then i can take a sync and after ive advanced my PID right i just switch the sync in front and it may have the right nature correct?
 
So, something odd is happening. I have a seed, for which I have to do 122 Chatters to get to PID frame 180, which is shiny. I used this shiny spread before, so I know I have to do 122 Chatters. But, when I do 121, I'm landing on 178, and when I do 122, I'm landing on 181, so what do I do wrong?
 
I have this happen a couple of times. What I did was watch the pokemon in the daycare running in circles(the petlil mainly) and I approximated how far it moved before shifting 1 PID frame. For yours I would stop at the 178 one, wait for the petlil to get around the top right corner and then talk to the daycare man.

Just how I would go about getting it but idk why that happens
 
So whats the process for RNGing shiny fossils? i never got an answer to that

also on standard seeds if i find a seed thats in bold then its syncronizable right? so for example i find a spread i like but its serious nature and in bold then i can take a sync and after ive advanced my PID right i just switch the sync in front and it may have the right nature correct?
 
Fossils are gift Pokemon, it's as simple as it seems. If you can't think of how to do it, then you should try something lesser in difficulty from the difficulty list from post 3.

npcs.

This thread moves way too fast when people repost questions from the last page. It's not like they are gone forever. Reposting the same thing in a span of 2 hours is annoying.
 
I started rng'ing for thundurus. I've hit my seed several times, but since i want the nature, and the rain really messes up everything, will saving inside the house help me hit something a lot easier? if not, shall i count seconds after the season shows up in order to advance my pids?? Also, how am i supposed to get a fairly accurate reading of what i hit, when there are a lot of pids with the same nature as what i hit?
 
I started rng'ing for thundurus. I've hit my seed several times, but since i want the nature, and the rain really messes up everything, will saving inside the house help me hit something a lot easier? if not, shall i count seconds after the season shows up in order to advance my pids?? Also, how am i supposed to get a fairly accurate reading of what i hit, when there are a lot of pids with the same nature as what i hit?
If you button-mash the way through the cutscene, you can pretty consistently hit the same PID frame every time. So I just advanced the frame one Chatter at a time, trying each one out, until I got the nature I wanted.

There may be a more efficient way, but that's how I did it.
 
I've been trying to get a 31/31/31/x/31/31 Adamant Zekrom, and I can hit the right seed with the IV's, however every time I try to advance the PIDRNG by saving, the IV's change as well as the nature! I am stumped, and any help would be appreciated.


I have these settings:
Method: Standard (Non C-Gear)
Version: White
System: DS Lite
Seed: DF654A63
MAC Addess: E84ECE032A54
VCount: 60
VFrame:6
GxStat:6
Timer0:C7F


At 6/26/11 6:39:25 I get a lonely 31/31/31/26/31/31 Zekrom on frame 7, and after saving I get a 20/9/11/0/31/7 Adamant (using sync).

Am I missing an obvious step?
 
If you button-mash the way through the cutscene, you can pretty consistently hit the same PID frame every time. So I just advanced the frame one Chatter at a time, trying each one out, until I got the nature I wanted.

There may be a more efficient way, but that's how I did it.

is there a good range of pids that you recommend to start looking like 100+ range or something? and also you saved inside the house right?
 
is there a good range of pids that you recommend to start looking like 100+ range or something? and also you saved inside the house right?
I think it started around 450, but it's hard to say for sure. Also, it depends on whether or not it's raining normally (since that will affect the PID before the roamer shows up). Also also, since it doesn't advance predictably, knowing where you started isn't really going to help anyway.
I've been trying to get a 31/31/31/x/31/31 Adamant Zekrom, and I can hit the right seed with the IV's, however every time I try to advance the PIDRNG by saving, the IV's change as well as the nature! I am stumped, and any help would be appreciated.


I have these settings:
Method: Standard (Non C-Gear)
Version: White
System: DS Lite
Seed: DF654A63
MAC Addess: E84ECE032A54
VCount: 60
VFrame:6
GxStat:6
Timer0:C7F


At 6/26/11 6:39:25 I get a lonely 31/31/31/26/31/31 Zekrom on frame 7, and after saving I get a 20/9/11/0/31/7 Adamant (using sync).

Am I missing an obvious step?
If the IVs changed, you missed your seed. Probably Timer0 acting up.
 
Uh...

This is just slipping right through my brain. Anyone have a simpler way to put it? I have English White dslite and just want some eggs with good EVs.
 
lol true. But each battle you can earn at most 14 EVs, which means vitamins can save about 7 battles. It's still nontrivial.

More importantly, I saw a couple of posts asking whether one can RNG abuse using Sweet Scent in the Giant Chasm. The answer is yes, and the way to do it is to save in the Giant Chasm, advance the month of your DS by 1 (just need to change the season), enter the game, run around until you get a wild encounter, defeat it or escape. At this point the season will have changed, and the fog is removed. Now you save, and when you load the game again, you have one Sweet Scent before the fog comes back again.

I needed this information some time ago, but couldn't find it anywhere on the Internet. I learned this trick through a friend. I thought this information might help some of you, too.

I can confirm this works. Was able to clear out the fog and sweet scent for a shiny Golbat. Thanks so much for the tip!

Also, I have a question: can you use Standard Seed abuse for in-game traded Pokemon like Rotom? If so, what IV Frame do you use?

EDIT: In regards to the Giant Chasm, I was able to Sweet Scent more than once in the inner Grass area. So that area seems to behave differently from the outer Grass area. I was only able to Sweet Scent once before the fog returned.

EDIT2: I was able to Sweet Scent several times in the inner Grass area the first time I used his tip. However, I was not able to do so again consistently. Not that Sweet Scenting several times is that important.
 
So Sweet Scent doesn't advance the frame at all in B/W? If I load the game with the C-gear off in a patch of grass / water / a cave and immediately use Sweet Scent, the Pokémon I get will be on frame 1 (for IVs)?
 
So Sweet Scent doesn't advance the frame at all in B/W? If I load the game with the C-gear off in a patch of grass / water / a cave and immediately use Sweet Scent, the Pokémon I get will be on frame 1 (for IVs)?

Correct. Sweet Scent does not advance the frame.
 
Seed: 3275F66BC80ABBAA
Frame: 95
IVs: 31/31/30/30/30/30
Parent A (Ditto): 31/31/30/30/30/30
Male Bold Munna w/everstone: 31/31/30/30/5/30
Baby: 31/22/30/30/26/30
Time: 1:03:25
Date: 5/27/2011
I searched the seed with a bold everstone nature, but every time I hatch the shiny, it turns out Docile. What can I do to make the hatched shiny bold?
 
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