All Encounter Shiny only finds seeds and approximate frames for a shiny. The frame numbers will all be different for each encounter type. You'll have to look up the correct frame number for each instead by entering the seed in the main window.
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5th Gen PRNG Help / Info - Latest: RNG Reporter 9.96.5, PPRNG 1.15.0
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All Encounter Shiny only finds seeds and approximate frames for a shiny. The frame numbers will all be different for each encounter type. You'll have to look up the correct frame number for each instead by entering the seed in the main window.
Thanks for clearing that one up. After taking a closer look it's seem more easier to simply breed for shiny Pokemon than it is to catch them in the wild.
Really, thanks for that bit of info. I always assumed that having a custom recorded Chatot was good for breeding only since every time I tried to use the Chatter method on wild/legendaries Pokemon it seem to do nothing for me.
are you positive it's right? if the listed second is a few after when you hit A, then it's probably right. if it's way off(you hit A at 10 seconds into the minute, but the listed seed is at 55 seconds) then it might be a false positive.
also, you probably want to recalibrate after every firmware update. for example, on mine i had to check the "soft reset" box and use 86 as my gxstat with the last firmware update, but now i leave the soft-reset box unchecked and set gxstat to 86. it can vary widely, so you should check on every update.
Can someone please help me with shiny Roamers? I have some good seeds with the perfect IVs and shiny-PID at 2500 - 9000. I already caught Tornadus a few times with my desired IV spread, but I have *absolutely* no idea where I should start looking for my "initial PID". I read that each Raindrop advances the PID by 80, so how should I know where to start?
So whenever you listen to the cry and catch a poke and then listen twice and catch a poke again (both on the same seed) you don't get different natures/ abilities/ genders/ species? If that's so than maybe your custom cry isn't custom anymore. I read that everytime you put it in the PC box the custom cry dissapears. Maybe that's why it wasn't working?
You also need to find your starting PID RNG frame. It's not one, it's mostly between 40-50 (read that somewhere too).
You can also advance the frame by saving (I don't have a chatot, so that's what I do hahaha *kinda feeling pathetic right now...*).
Also NPCs running/ turning/ walking around advance your PID RNG frame so watch out for them (because saving is so slow, I actually use them and count seconds XD *feeling even more pathetic...*)
I don't know much about RNGing roamers but I do know that the PID RNG frame you start in will always be the same when you hit the same seed. So you can first use your seed on a wild Pokémon and then try to find out your starting frame. Go to a Wild Pokémon area with no NPCs. Catch a poke with that seed. Check it's nature, gender etc. Then start the game with the same seed again and advance the PID RNG frame by 1 and catch another. Then you'll know what PID RNG frame you start on ^^ Hope that helps a bit.
Seed: 745638D4BEA66E2B
ID: 55913 SID: 14797
Question:
So, I'm breeding a male Minccino with my newly caught Jolly quintflawless Ditto. Shiny PID is 89. When I'm doing 34 Chatters, I get the result of frame 88. So I thought, I have to do one more, so I did 35 Chatters, and then I got 91. So why does 1 Chatter advances the PID frame with 3? Got the Ditto Parent box checked.
ID: 55913 SID: 14797
Question:
So, I'm breeding a male Minccino with my newly caught Jolly quintflawless Ditto. Shiny PID is 89. When I'm doing 34 Chatters, I get the result of frame 88. So I thought, I have to do one more, so I did 35 Chatters, and then I got 91. So why does 1 Chatter advances the PID frame with 3? Got the Ditto Parent box checked.
I think my problem was a) I couldn't hit my seed consecutively enough to gauge the different and b) Didn't pay too much attention to it when I started RNGing. Either way I paid a bit more attention to Chatot's Chatters and noticed a different in natures/ abilities/ genders/ species. Now if I can only hit those damn seeds down with some consecutiveness.
Speaking of NPCs, I swear to God I feel like they be screwing with my IVRNG as well as my PIDRNG.
I keep getting the same results. You think I should ask this if I only tried once? I did 10 times, and I know I'm fast enough. Did over 30 breeds in BW already.
If God would talk back to you he would say "Thou must not blame the poor NPCs for that" :P
Another problem could be the fluctuation of your Timer0. I almost have that completely (almost, I've succesfully RNG'ed 5 pokes today and out of all of those attempts I hit the spread only twice) under control knowing that the Timer0 will almost always be C7F when I press 'A' when the starting screen comes up with the health and safety warning. The fluctuation of Timer0 means different spreads on different seeds. That could be the real thing screwing with it :P
Well sorry, didn't want to offend you. I just like helping people, guess I was a bit too entusiastically. This noob can only think of you having a Roamer in your game but as you're a pro I bet not :P Good luck with it.
New page, still looking for some assistance
Hey thanks for the answer. But I already did that and it doesn't really helps. My initial Pid for the Seed is 145, but I don't know what my "initial PID" after the rain is. I can only suppose that it is extremely high. The real problem is, that I can't really get chain of real "initial PIDs", so like I said, I don't know where to start looking for the real initial PID. :(
For those who didn't read my initial post:
This might have said already, but the 2 very common Timer0s are C7F and C80. All of my friends have one of those.
Maybe this helps however you still need to deal with a PID advancement of 60 per second. I would only do this if I was a 100% certain of being able to get it :P
Not sure but I heard that usually if you consistently go through the cut-scene, the PID frame should be around 1900 or above? I just want a confirmation as I remember some saying this but it could just be me.
Thank you for your explanation. I have a more clear understanding. So the IVs are pretty much the same as a stationary legendary but the nature is when weather comes in. Could you enlighten me a little more about the PIDRNG and how to deal with the rain?
As I asked Turtwig, I'll also ask you as well. How does one deal with the PID advancement? Compared to stationary legendaries and going up in frame, 60 per second seems way more confusing.
You cannot control the PID frame advancement. 60 frames per second is hell. It's more of a random process involving a lot of luck, patience, getting a very good PID RNG frame and asking someone that's not a noob (I am a noob). You're better of asking Turtwig haha, I just quoted his awesome post :P
I think you should check what PID frame you hit when mashing through the conversation and then use Chatot to advances the extra frames you need to get the correct nature/ ability/ shinieness. At some moment, God might smile at you, and you'll hit it all correct XD
I'll try and find that post of someone who might've stated the frames ended up being in the 1900s.
I think you should check what PID frame you hit when mashing through the conversation and then use Chatot to advances the extra frames you need to get the correct nature/ ability/ shinieness. At some moment, God might smile at you, and you'll hit it all correct XD
I'll try and find that post of someone who might've stated the frames ended up being in the 1900s.
Okay, I need some help. I have been RNG'ing for an Adamant 31/31/31/x/31/31 Axew using the non C Gear method. I have the synchronize box checked and the nature boxes filled out with Adamant for both. I always end up hitting the seed, but I never get an Axew. I've tried using the encounter slots, but the ones that say Axew give me Boldore. Is there something I'm doing wrong?
Yeah, when I went in the house, I was dead-set on getting what I came for. Even if it'd take a week (it really only took three days), I wasn't leaving until I got it.
Unfortunately, I can't help much more with explaining the PIDRNG.
The first time I abused a roamer, it was more of a 'just to see if I could' thing. I had very consistent results, and as such was able to get my desired Nature pretty quickly, and even catch Thundurus in a good-looking ball. I didn't think to search for what PID Frame I started on, which was an awful mistake, but eh. All I remember was Bashful, Timid. Yeah.
Later when I went for Tornadus on Black, I couldn't get a good reading on my starting PID at all. I narrowed it down to about two Natures, but that doesn't help much.
(Not sure if it'll help anyone, but I didn't mash because it always got me wild results. I would watch the corner of the screen for the arrow and press 'a' when I saw it. Relies more on reflexes than mashing, but it was way more consistent for me.)
Basically you have to mash, or find some consistent way to get through the conversation, in order to get good results. It's mostly blind luck, really.
I remember hearing about someone else that found their starting PID, it was in the 400s, I believe. I would think it'd be in the 400s-600s if you're trying to find it.
Once it flies away, that's it. IVs, Nature, and Shininess are set.
Needless to say roamers are a complete pain... when I get around to playing White over, I'll dedicate myself to figuring these things out.
But when I put it into the Main Window i got different results. I see what your saying about the values but why do they turn out different spreads.
Repost. These are different seeds but the correct seed is the top while the simple seed generator gives you the bottom.