5th Gen PRNG Help / Info - Latest: RNG Reporter 9.96.5, PPRNG 1.15.0

Re: Turtwig
Thanks a lot for your post. I had a response set up, but halfway through that response I realized I did not have my ID and SIDs typed in, which I thought could be the reason why I wasn't seeing any PID ranges, and in reading how to get my SID number I ended up reading all about how to do the Standard method and ended up finding and catching the a Solosis with the desired stats within minutes of trying it.

I'm still not seeing any PID range when I do a C-Gear search, but for one I suppose this is because controlling PID is near impossible with the C-Gear method and for two after trying the Standard method and seeing how ridiculously easy it is I doubt I even care any more. I can definitely see the desired PID when doing a standard search, so that's pretty much all I care about.

Also, thanks for confirming that moving NPCs with a set path (always? usually?) don't advance PID. I managed to catch a 31 HP/19 Atk/31 Def/31 Sp.A/31 Sp.D/31 Spd solosis with almost no trouble on the first try with the right nature, ability and even encounter slot. Everything went better than expected.

And thanks for confirming that I won't lose people in White Forest from this. That definitely makes it a lot easier, not having to stay in one date. I wonder if it'll mess up my dream world uploading, though, or if it's only battery removal that does that and not clock changing. I guess I'll see in two hours.

The standard method was so easy that now I'm getting greedy and trying to catch a shiny one, heh. Having a little difficulty, though. Is turning in place with repel on while in a grass square sufficient for advancing PID frames, or am I going to have to get some chattering chatots in order to do this? The seed I've been trying starts at frame 47 (according to RNG Reporter) and the desired PID frame is 169, so I figure step onto the grass tile and turn in place 62 times but so far no luck.

Also, while trying to diagnose what is going wrong I tried out the Pokechecker fakegts tool to try and see the PIDs of the mons I'm catching, but the Pokechecker outputs the PIDs as pure numbers when almost none of the PIDs listed in RNG Reporter are. I can't make heads or tails of why. What's going on here? I'd like to be able to reverse engineer which frame I ended up on to try and figure out why I'm not getting this guy.
 
Also, while trying to diagnose what is going wrong I tried out the Pokechecker fakegts tool to try and see the PIDs of the mons I'm catching, but the Pokechecker outputs the PIDs as pure numbers when almost none of the PIDs listed in RNG Reporter are. I can't make heads or tails of why. What's going on here? I'd like to be able to reverse engineer which frame I ended up on to try and figure out why I'm not getting this guy.
Are you familiar with hexadecimal? Anyway, from the menu bar on the main page, go to Performance Options>PID Display>Decimal, and they should match up.
 
Quick Question, by how much does sweet scenting advance the PIDRNG?

By 2 frames.
Sweet scent does not advance the PIDRNG.


getting help here seems near hopeless unless i understand what all those numbers etc.. mean
Your question is kinda weird. The seed (hex) is your seed that you got from searching in the time finder. Just right click the seed and copy/paste it. It seems like you're doing c-gear so I'm not sure why you need that.
 
Also, thanks for confirming that moving NPCs with a set path (always? usually?) don't advance PID.

They'll never advance if they're on a set path.

And thanks for confirming that I won't lose people in White Forest from this. That definitely makes it a lot easier, not having to stay in one date. I wonder if it'll mess up my dream world uploading, though, or if it's only battery removal that does that and not clock changing. I guess I'll see in two hours.

Changing the time in any way will unfortunately keep you from being able to use the Dream World. You'll have to wait 24 hours after you change the time to get back on.

Having a little difficulty, though. Is turning in place with repel on while in a grass square sufficient for advancing PID frames, or am I going to have to get some chattering chatots in order to do this?

Turning and steps are inconsistent. Sometimes they advance by 1, sometimes by 2.
Chatot is definitely the best way to go. Your best bet would be to grab two of them, so that you can zip back and forth from them, advancing the PID fairly quickly.
 
Can someone help me understand how to find my seed this is my first time RNGing and i dont really get it :( im using the latest version of it and i use time finder in time finder i find a seed i type it in in the place where it says seed hex but it says it is incorrect can someone help me? oh and im using method 5 c-gear rng
 
Sweet scent does not advance the PIDRNG.



Your question is kinda weird. The seed (hex) is your seed that you got from searching in the time finder. Just right click the seed and copy/paste it. It seems like you're doing c-gear so I'm not sure why you need that.

so i dont need to click on time finder? what exactly do i do then

how do i upload a screenshot so people can look what i filled out?

do i need to fill out the ds parameters too?
 
so i dont need to click on time finder? what exactly do i do then

how do i upload a screenshot so people can look what i filled out?

do i need to fill out the ds parameters too?
You do need to use the time finder. The time finder is used to search for a time to get the spread you want. Once you search it will return the seed and all the info needed to hit that seed. For c-gear you only need the last half of your MAC address. You can take a screenshot via "Prnt Scrn" on your keyboard and then paste it into something like Paint. Then save and upload it.
 
Hey guys. I'm going for Virizion. Here's what's happening. I hit my seed for the IVs but then my nature isn't correct. I've already determined that I need to advance 5 frames for Jolly. When I save 5 times and then catch Virizion, it's the wrong IVs and nature altogether. I then try to get the IVs alone correct again and succeed. Again I go for the Jolly nature and get the same wrong IVs and nature I got before.

It seems like every other time, I hit a different seed. Anyone know what I'm doing wrong?

- I'm using RNG 9.81.
- I'm going for Virizion 31/31/31/any/31/31 and Jolly.
- My MAC Address is 0022AA0B7CA5
- My seed is E9B42829A7251DF6. Like I said, I hit it every other attempt.
- Timer0 is C7F.
- The flawless Virizion is Hasty, often dozes off, and has 141/93/70/89/126/118. It has the correct IVs, but like I said the wrong nature.
 
have you tried using chatot chatters to advance the frame instead? i believe it's a more reliable method. you may just be ending up with the wrong timer0, and i think the initial PIDRNG frame changes when you save.
 
Hey guys. I'm going for Virizion. Here's what's happening. I hit my seed for the IVs but then my nature isn't correct. I've already determined that I need to advance 5 frames for Jolly. When I save 5 times and then catch Virizion, it's the wrong IVs and nature altogether. I then try to get the IVs alone correct again and succeed. Again I go for the Jolly nature and get the same wrong IVs and nature I got before.

It seems like every other time, I hit a different seed. Anyone know what I'm doing wrong?

- I'm using RNG 9.81.
- I'm going for Virizion 31/31/31/any/31/31 and Jolly.
- My MAC Address is 0022AA0B7CA5
- My seed is E9B42829A7251DF6. Like I said, I hit it every other attempt.
- Timer0 is C7F.
- The flawless Virizion is Hasty, often dozes off, and has 141/93/70/89/126/118. It has the correct IVs, but like I said the wrong nature.
If you use a Jolly synchronizer, it'll be easier for you to get a Jolly nature.
 
I tried the Jolly Synchronizer but now either I get that same flawless Virizion with the bad nature or I get the Jolly nature with the wrong IVs. What am I doing wrong?


I think your just having trouble hitting your seed at the right time. This happens to me sometimes. Even when it looks like you hit it at the right time sometimes its just a little off. Try hitting the seed a split second earlier or a split second later than you usually do. Just keep trying to hit it.
 
I think your just having trouble hitting your seed at the right time. This happens to me sometimes. Even when it looks like you hit it at the right time sometimes its just a little off. Try hitting the seed a split second earlier or a split second later than you usually do. Just keep trying to hit it.

I usually try to hit it as close to it changing to the second as possible. Unless I can hit it anytime the hand is on the second I'm going for...in this case mine's 34. I hit it as soon as the hand hits 34.
 
timer0.

find the bad nature PID and find out how many saves you have to do to hit a sync one.

timer0 causes you to get 2 seeds. you cant control it.
 
I'm kind of screwed. I played with HL Calibration on EonTimer a bit... Now I've no idea where I'm hitting and RNGReporter doesn't know either. xP Is there any kind soul that could tell me what the original HL Calib. is? I know it was 200 something... maybe?

@Zandock
Thanks!
 
I'm kind of screwed. I played with HL Calibration on EonTimer a bit... Now I've no idea where I'm hitting and RNGReporter doesn't know either. xP Is there any kind soul that could tell me what the original HL Calib. is? I know it was 200 something... maybe?

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Are you familiar with hexadecimal? Anyway, from the menu bar on the main page, go to Performance Options>PID Display>Decimal, and they should match up.
Gotcha, that's perfect. I figured it was something like that, but am not terribly familiar with hexadecimal.

They'll never advance if they're on a set path.
That's good to know. Question, though -- do guys who turn in place in a manner that doesn't seem pre-set advance the PID, or is it only guys who move randomly?

Changing the time in any way will unfortunately keep you from being able to use the Dream World. You'll have to wait 24 hours after you change the time to get back on.
Ahh that's a shame. And I just hit 10,000 points, too. Oh well, it'll have to wait.

Turning and steps are inconsistent. Sometimes they advance by 1, sometimes by 2.
Chatot is definitely the best way to go. Your best bet would be to grab two of them, so that you can zip back and forth from them, advancing the PID fairly quickly.
So I took this advice and picked up a pair of Chatots, recorded a silent chatter for the both of them, and went back to trying to get this shiny, perfect IV duosion. I'm still having a hell of a time, though.

I'm trying to hit a seed ( FA506525D15DEC30 ) at 5/16/11 13:30:48, B-Left-L keypresses, C85 timer0 (which appears to be my more common timer0). The IV frame I want is 67, and the PID frame I want is 211. I have six party members and take 1408 steps (128 * 11 = 1408, 11 * 6 = 66 + 1 = 67) using a total of 5 max repels and 1 super repel then counting the last 8 steps. I land in the grass on the last step. Then I go into my party and flip between my two chatots a total of 161 times -- the start PID frame for this seed is 48, so 48 + 2 (grass) + 161 = 211, my target PID.

The thing is, I'm consistently (3 times in a row now) hitting 230 PID. I have no idea why. Everything adds up, nothing should be messing with anything. I'm on Route 9, so there shouldn't be any NPCs that are messing with my PID. My C-Gear is obviously off. I'm only taking the one step into the grass, which is accounted for in my calculations. What is going wrong here? I really can't tell. I'm consistently hitting my seed, I've confirmed my starting PID twice now, all the numbers add up, but for some reason I'm overshooting by 19 frames every time. I'm also overshooting my IV frames by 6, even when I'm taking exactly 1408 steps, which should be 11 advancements.

At this point, I don't even know any more. I'm getting similar results with every seed I try, overshooting the PID and usually overshooting the IV as well, although I haven't been as thorough with those seeds as I have with this one. I was worried that this would make getting perfect mons too easy, but it would appear I was wrong...
 
Gotcha, that's perfect. I figured it was something like that, but am not terribly familiar with hexadecimal.

That's good to know. Question, though -- do guys who turn in place in a manner that doesn't seem pre-set advance the PID, or is it only guys who move randomly?

Ahh that's a shame. And I just hit 10,000 points, too. Oh well, it'll have to wait.

So I took this advice and picked up a pair of Chatots, recorded a silent chatter for the both of them, and went back to trying to get this shiny, perfect IV duosion. I'm still having a hell of a time, though.

I'm trying to hit a seed ( FA506525D15DEC30 ) at 5/16/11 13:30:48, B-Left-L keypresses, C85 timer0 (which appears to be my more common timer0). The IV frame I want is 67, and the PID frame I want is 211. I have six party members and take 1408 steps (128 * 11 = 1408, 11 * 6 = 66 + 1 = 67) using a total of 5 max repels and 1 super repel then counting the last 8 steps. I land in the grass on the last step. Then I go into my party and flip between my two chatots a total of 161 times -- the start PID frame for this seed is 48, so 48 + 2 (grass) + 161 = 211, my target PID.

The thing is, I'm consistently (3 times in a row now) hitting 230 PID. I have no idea why. Everything adds up, nothing should be messing with anything. I'm on Route 9, so there shouldn't be any NPCs that are messing with my PID. My C-Gear is obviously off. I'm only taking the one step into the grass, which is accounted for in my calculations. What is going wrong here? I really can't tell. I'm consistently hitting my seed, I've confirmed my starting PID twice now, all the numbers add up, but for some reason I'm overshooting by 19 frames every time. I'm also overshooting my IV frames by 6, even when I'm taking exactly 1408 steps, which should be 11 advancements.

At this point, I don't even know any more. I'm getting similar results with every seed I try, overshooting the PID and usually overshooting the IV as well, although I haven't been as thorough with those seeds as I have with this one. I was worried that this would make getting perfect mons too easy, but it would appear I was wrong...



Umm why are you even using a IV frame of 67? Aim much much much much lower like 1-6 range. If you are taking that many steps you are also advancing the PIDRNG WAYYYYYYY more than 211(your target), because if im not mistaken each step increases the PID right? And besides youll be turning ALOT with 1408 steps.. Find a new seed starting in the 1-6 range for IVs and it will be much easier.
 
A couple of questions:

1. I'm trying to understand how to control your PID frames and such. I've caught 3 Cobalions - Calm, Impish (1 chatter) and Calm (2 chatters). The IVs matched and I took the same route every time. So... how do I find where they are exactly? Do I have to search them manually in RNG Reporter, or is there some other way?

Here's the Cobalion I'm aiming to catch:

Seed: 6F7B5D1DCBCA7CD3
Frame: 21 (512 steps with 5 Pokemon in party)
Spread: 31 / 31 / 31 / 26 / 31 / 31
DS MAC Adress: 00-1E-A9-D5-82-D4
Timer0: C7B
Nature: Jolly
Shiny?: Yes, if it doesn't have some ridiculous frame.
ID: 46095
SID: 23173

2. Why some of the natures are bolded, and other greyed out? Here's the screen:
pidyg.jpg
 
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