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League of Legends: Let's Talk About uhhh??
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I've been starting Wriggles and Mercs/Tabi because every game I've used him my teammates pick 4 squishies so I build a little tankier since I know none of them are going to prevent me from getting burst to hell. If I still feel I need more tankiness I go Atmogs but I'll go Triforce if I feel like the extra damage will help more.
Triforce into Atmog's is a pretty good Gangplank build, I think.
I mean if you're laning with someone then you're either solo laning or playing support Gangplank. If it's the former, you don't have the problem of teammates stealing CS and you just farm, poke, and assist with your ulti. If you're playing support GP, then you poke, CV constantly, and don't take any CS while rushing that early Philo/Avarice/HoG.
Or you could play Jungle gangplank and have fast clears alongside powerful ganking and ult assistance. You've gotta learn your niche and it seems like the problem right now is that you don't know what your role is on the team, meaning that you obviously won't contribute as much as you can late-game.
Ok good, now that I don't have 1999 posts, someone said something about using Q as often as possible to farm? No, don't do that. Conserve your mana. Yeah, sometimes its ok to use it if you need the range to last hit. But don't spam it.
Old Gangplank sucked because he had too many reasons to spam abilities in lane. Getting rid of his denial and reducing the gold gain for Parley got rid of his mana problems, don't bring them back by spamming.
Old Gangplank sucked because he had too many reasons to spam abilities in lane. Getting rid of his denial and reducing the gold gain for Parley got rid of his mana problems, don't bring them back by spamming.
Unless you think that you are going to need all your mana to get a kill early on, Gangplank has no reason not to farm with Q. Getting like 8 extra gold per Q last hit is great, and while you certainly should not use it every time it is up, having 4/3 as much cs essentially is very useful on a champ whose primary damage output comes from the most expensive items in the game, following which he must complete a combo of Warmog's and Atma's. He needs that money to crush late game, which he can do amazingly well. The joy of two-shotting carries does not come without some mana sacrifice early game
He gains 8 gold at level 9. He gains 4 gold at level 1, where he can Parley 6 times (24 extra gold). This becomes 35 extra gold at level 3, and 48 extra gold at level 5. This is by spamming and running out of mana so that you can't sustain with W or help gank with E (not to mention use his ultimate). And when he gets 8 gold per kill, that's 72 extra gold in 45 seconds. Not bad until you realize you've just run out of mana.
Sustain with W? The cooldown is extremely long at Level 1 and you should be leveling it last. It needs to stay off cooldown so you can use it to remove CC during a gank attempt. After making sure you always have enough for W/E/R, any extra mana can go into Q either to last hit or harass the enemy laner depending on who's bullying who.
Do note that supports typically do start building that GP10 early on so they're not completely gold starved, but Aegis and Stark's are very good items to build on a support GP.
Regarding the Q farm issue in lane, I'd say save it unless you have to use it to avoid missing CS. The old GP could literally get upwards of 15 gold per Q CS so it was worth it to spam Q as much as possible so you'd be an absolute monster at 20 minutes, but with new GP, you don't need to secure each and every last CS with your Q. Autoattack often, stay at a decent amount of mana, and only use your skills when you have to, unless you want to get some poke off.
I have another question: is there ever a good time to get Tiamat? I assume it'd be like a mid-game item, if anything, and the splash from AAs seems nice, but I can't really think of a situation where it gains priority over some other item. But I know that some champions can have trouble farming, or need a lot of farm to be successful, so idk.
On a note for the players who follow the competitive scene, I was pretty amused at how slanted this poll was when I clicked "no" http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1428871 and it seems to be staying at a pretty consistent 10.5/89.5
I figure I'm basically in Canada here in Michigan anyway. Canada gonna win eh?
I figure I'm basically in Canada here in Michigan anyway. Canada gonna win eh?
Tiamat synergizes with Tristana's E and Malphite's W, but whether it synergizes well is a different story. I think it's the only item I've never purchased.
shyvana looks pretty cool
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He played for both the WCG Canada and USA qualifiers despite rules against such a case
jonnyrolo is a pretty cool guy, is more better at league of legends than anyone else and doesn't afraid of anything
i mean like assuming that you're the same "jonnyrolo" in the client, then you're level 29 and obviously main a katarina build used to stomp low-ELO enemy teams since you seem to be rushing soulstealer in every single one of your games
you also seem to be running armor pen and mana regen runes as well as a 22/7/0 setup on your main champion which seems to be katarina