So when exactly are the 5 inherited IVs determined? If it's when you put the parents in the day-care, why doesn't changing the parents reset them?
You save time only if the first few inheritances could benefit two pokemon parents you already have. Otherwise, it's better to just do it the old fashioned way. Basically, the method helps people who have lots of viable parent pokemon.I think I'm missing something...I don't see how you save time by choosing a) over b):
a) use this method until your random parents pass down the IVs you want then use the good parents and breed the offspring you need
b) keep hatching eggs until the good parents pass down the IVs you want
Thank you farran, I understood the method of this, but not why anyone would do it. Now you summed it up perfectly - you choose the parents based on the stat spread.You save time only if the first few inheritances could benefit two pokemon parents you already have. Otherwise, it's better to just do it the old fashioned way. Basically, the method helps people who have lots of viable parent pokemon.
Edit: I have another question. What happens in the case of Ditto+Ungendered mon like Klink?
God forbid you still need to produce eggs and cycle around. This benefits people who have already been breeding and have a large pool of parents to choose from.This doesn't really save all that much time from normal. You still need to produce eggs, you still need to bike around until they hatch, and you still need to check their IVs. Just instead of 4-5 eggs at a time, its 1 egg at a time.
Tested this just for you. Ditto assumes the father role, an the Ungendered mon is interpreted as female.Edit: I have another question. What happens in the case of Ditto+Ungendered mon like Klink?
Because then you couldn't change the parents. If you save before getting the first egg, the inheritances will keep being randomized every time you change parents. If you reject the first egg and then save, you can then make use of this method. I know that's not a good "explanation" of the facts, but it's how RNG works I guess.Can someone explain why a first egg must be rejected before saving? Can't you just save, then generate an egg, hatch it, look at its iv's then reset/keep accordingly? Notice in my example, no initial egg had to be discarded.
Yes, your best friends in this method are high level, 0 EVs Magikarps whom you can easily identify the IVs.So am I right in saying that I should find something like two Magikarp with vastly varying IVs between them to use as 'inheritance scouts' due to their fast hatch rate?
Ability seems to be locked, I'm not sure about gender. (I'll have to revise my notes when I get home, but I believe gender is locked too)Is the gender, ability (don't matter if you use everstone) and ability locked when using this method? If so, I assuming the gender might chance if you using another specie with different gender ratio?
But you have to change the parents after you find out which IVs are being passed down?Because then you couldn't change the parents. If you save before getting the first egg, the inheritances will keep being randomized every time you change parents. If you reject the first egg and then save, you can then make use of this method. I know that's not a good "explanation" of the facts, but it's how RNG works I guess.
You don't have to, but it's the main advantage of this method. Surely you can keep the same parents, but then you're better off just accepting every single egg and hatching them the usual way if those are the Pokémon you want to breed. The main usefulness of this method is, for example, breeding two shitty IVs Magikarp, knowing which IVs the father and mother will pass down, then change the Magikarps to two Pokémon you want to breed with the corresponding IVs, meaning you'll get a good offspring right away. This is extremely time saving for anyone who has lots of different 3 IV combination Dittos, you see.But you have to change the parents after you find out which IVs are being passed down?
Yes I know that. Read the post I quoted.You don't have to, but it's the main advantage of this method. Surely you can keep the same parents, but then you're better off just accepting every single egg and hatching them the usual way if those are the Pokémon you want to breed. The main usefulness of this method is, for example, breeding two shitty IVs Magikarp, knowing which IVs the father and mother will pass down, then change the Magikarps to two Pokémon you want to breed with the corresponding IVs, meaning you'll get a good offspring right away. This is extremely time saving for anyone who has lots of different 3 IV combination Dittos, you see.
I answered you in the first sentence of my last post: you don't have to change the parents. The rest was just rambling. Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you mean.Yes I know that. Read the post I quoted.
Yes you are. I know perfectly well you don't have to change the parents. Read the post I quoted and the posts before for context.I answered you in the first sentence of my last post: you don't have to change the parents. The rest was just rambling. Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you mean.
Can someone answer this please?So can this work for shiny Pokemon? I really hope it does! :)
Okay, so let's see if I understand your question now: if you don't reject the first egg, then the inheritance will keep being randomized instead of locked when you change the parents. If you change the parents after rejecting the first egg and saving, you're keeping the inheritance RNG. Does that answer it?Yes you are. I know perfectly well you don't have to change the parents. Read the post I quoted and the posts before for context.
It's not know yet because no one has had the luck to get a shiny this way, but because we believed the PID remains the same, then yes, you'd be able to get any shiny of your choice this way if you have such luck.Can someone answer this please?
Yes, it just makes little sense which is why I was asking.Okay, so let's see if I understand your question now: if you don't reject the first egg, then the inheritance will keep being randomized instead of locked when you change the parents. If you change the parents after rejecting the first egg and saving, you're keeping the inheritance RNG. Does that answer it?
Yeah, I know what you mean, but that's how RNG works. Gen 4 RNG made even less sense, at least this is quite simple. Sorry I can't provide the specific reasons, so please just take things as-is for now. ): I also wish I could know why it behaves like that.Yes, it just makes little sense which is why I was asking.