I don't care for the safari, I care for the amount of people in my friends list, since whenever I need to add someone I have a hard time choosing who to delete.
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Do we know what is and isn't OU yet (ladder information)? I'm just curious to see what makes it and what doesn't.
No, it does not. I have two 3DS systems, and I have tested this by having them unfriend each other. When someone unfriends you, the ONLY change to your system is that you can no longer see when they're online (and, presumably, you can no longer get the boosted frequency of Hidden Abilities if you are both online at the same time).
When my 3DS XL unfriended my 3DS, my 3DS could still see my XL's face, and had access to all 3 Pokémon. My XL lost access to my 3DS's Friend Safari completely.
I'm honestly not sure what caused the problem that you experienced, but it was not being unfriended.
We don't have an OU list yet, just the usage statistics, which are in no way accurate at the moment and are in a high state of flux. (For example, Talonflame is really high because of everyone trying him out; Gengar is way higher than he's likely to end up, thanks to Gengarite being banned halfway through the month).
I'm not sure what the councils plan to do, but privately I wouldn't expect to see a UU metagame develop until the OU stats stabilize, which is unlikely to happen any time before the Pokebank opens. Trying to set up an OU tier list would be a waste of time before then.
Is Trick an egg move or transfer only move? I'm having trouble finding where you get it in this game.
You'll need to specify for which Pokemon for us to give you any meaningful answer.
This post reminds me of Ho-oh way back in the days of DPPt. This was before it ever got Brave Bird or even Regenerator; it was one of the least used ubers and there were calls for it to be dropped down to OU. It was never unbanned and of course it stopped being a question when HGSS and BW came out. The reason? Well, yes, it has 130 Atk but so does Flareon. It was a combination of many factors, not the least of which was its 106/90/154 defensive prowess combined with ample offensive power and few if any checks that could scratch it without going down. I hope this answers your question somewhat.
iirc it's banned in pre-Pokebank OU due to the fact that I don't think there's a legal way to obtain it in XY (not that it matters since you can't get Latis anyways). Not sure about Pokebank OU. My guess is that unreleased = ok in Pokebank OU, but if it's still unobtainable when Pokebank comes out, it'll be banned.
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Poketransporter will not carry items forward. If there's some ingame event that can be triggered by having Lati@s on your team that gives Soul Dew, it's one thing, but otherwise it'll remain unobtainable in Pokebank OU.
Also, pretty sure Soul Dew is banned anyway, even in Gen 5 OU, just because it's arguably the difference between Lati@s being Uber-territory or being fine for upper OU.
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Also, I have a shiny Venipede with pretty decent stats, but it's got poison point. Will the Capsule give me the possibility of getting Speed Boost?
No. Unfortunately, an ability capsule will only allow you to switch between the two regular abilities of a Pokemon with two possible abilities; Hidden Abilities can't be obtained with one, nor can Pokemon with Hidden Abilities use the Ability Capsule.
Bad luck, friend. If you want a shiny Speed Boost Scolipede, I'm afraid you'll have to keep looking.
Well at least that was a lucky hatch and not an Instant Check hatch.
What's the deal? I'm breeding TWO Speed Boost Venipede and not a single egg has been Speed Boost.
That's because the RNG hates you. Trust me, I know the feeling. You have a 60% chance each egg, you should get one eventually. Remember, those are worse odds than Focus Blast, and we all know that you can blow through that move's entire store of PP without hitting anything.
Hi everyone, I'm a returning player looking to get started with the XY metagame.
I read the post on Blaziken's ban from OU, and it seems like the entire argument hinges upon Speed Boost. So why not just ban Speed Boost Blaziken specifically? Without it Blaziken is merely a good pokemon and not a broken one, and Smogon has done "complex bans" in the past (Drizzle + Swift Swim, etc.)
I read the post on Blaziken's ban from OU, and it seems like the entire argument hinges upon Speed Boost. So why not just ban Speed Boost Blaziken specifically? Without it Blaziken is merely a good pokemon and not a broken one, and Smogon has done "complex bans" in the past (Drizzle + Swift Swim, etc.)
This is actually a really contentious argument that has cropped up around other Pokemon in the past, as well. Garchomp was viewed as broken with Sand Veil but not with the Rough Skin set, for example.
It boils down to, the overarching policy is "no complex bans" and the DrizzleSwim ban was in every aspect the exception that proved the rule. Banning or not banning Blaze Blaziken is a question involving a single pokemon that doesn't do anything uniquely well; with DrizzleSwim, it was a question of "ban Swift Swim" versus "ban Drizzle entirely," both of which would have radically changed the face of the Gen V OU metagame. More importantly, most elements of DrizzleSwim were not actually a serious problem individually. Drizzle is arguable (it did shape the face of Gen V OU to an extent), but no Swift Swimmer was considered a problem without Drizzle around for permanent rain setting.
Neither one is a particularly palatable option, and even then DrizzleSwim ban was a tough pill for a lot of people to swallow and some people would argue that point all through Gen 5.
For the same Reason we don't ban Swords Dance+ Blaziken, Protect + Blaziken or HJK and Blaziken, or allow Mewtwo at level 75. Weather in Gen 5 was a very difficult case and if we just banned rain we propably would have to ban every weather and if we would have banned every Rain Sweeper some people would have claimed that not all rain sweepers are broken. Aladrons Proposal was the best solution for a very difficult problem. Blaziken isn't nearly as meta game defining as Rain so it gets no complex ban.
Complex bans have been used, but only when there is no better option, as they are a slippery slope, and a poor precedent to set for the metagame. For example, despite the need for banning the Drizzle/Swift Swim combination, doing so has produced hundreds of posts saying "see, complex bans are good! This is exactly what we mean by it being a bad precedent. Complex bans are not a good solution, and I'll outline why in the three basic rules below.
Rule One: Never make a complex ban when a simple one will do. There was no simple ban solution possible for Swift Swim + Drizzle. Banning just Swift Swim would have essentially banned outright a number of Pokémon who had no other viable Ability options, and which were only broken in rain. Banning just Drizzle would have massively unbalanced the weather wars.
Rule Two: Do not make a complex ban unless it affects multiple Pokémon. If there was only one Pokémon that could use Swift Swim + Drizzle or Sand Veil effectively, that one Pokémon would have been banned instead of the combination. Speed Boost itself is not broken. Banning it would ban Ninjask and Scolopede, both of whom use it legitimately. This also helps avoid unnecessary complex bans, and leads into the third rule.
Rule Three: Do not make complex bans to keep a Pokémon OU. If you are banning a Pokémon, it is on the basis of its best ability. Sure, that Pokémon might be useless if it's run with only three moves or controlled by an unskilled player (such as myself). So what? This is a game of mathematics and metagame refinement (especially here at Smogon). Each Pokémon is taken to its pinnacle when determining sets and viability. Otherwise, we have a nasty precedent for things like "Deoxys-A is allowed in OU as long as it only carries two moves". If a Pokémon's best set is overpowered, that Pokémon is overpowered, and banned. We don't cripple it or remove its tools to keep it OU unless the tool itself is broken.
In short, Speed Boost is not broken, it is Speed Boost combined with Blaziken's stats, movepool, typing, etcetera. Banning Speed Boost would cripple otherwise decent Pokémon, and set a bad precedent for keeping Pokémon in OU that should not be there. Plus, all you would get out of it is a Pokémon who, without Speed Boost, is UU or RU at best, as Blaziken is otherwise not that impressive.
Am I right in assuming that abilities that help evasion are unbanned? If so, what was the reasoning to re-allow this...? I just went into an OU battle with a snow cloak Froslass. This is scarey to see back in the metagame, even if weather is limited. The game of chance is not fun to play with.
I've got a Bold Klefki. What set do you guys think is the best for him: swagkey or just a more normal lead version (with spikes, foul play and stuff like that)? I do think he would be a good spiker, but I keep on hearing the power of swagkey. By the way, do you think swagkey is gonna get banned? Also, the default EV spread seems to be 252 hp/ 252 def/ 4 sdef, but would it be worth to spend the final 4 EVs in speed instead just to outspeed other Klefkis?
Thats weird. It should not be possible because of evasion clause. Evasion claus should be turned on during battles?
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