Hey guys,
this topic bugs me for over a month now, and I still don't know the correct answer. Hope you guys can help me!
So, my question ist about EV-Investment. I will support my question with the following examples:
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Example 1:
Empoleon @ Leftovers
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Def / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
Example 2:
Garchomp @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Rough Skin
EVs: 240 HP / 176 Def / 92 Spe
Impish Nature
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@Example 1:
So, you have Empoleon. The thing is, I thought I understand the EV-Investment thing with odd numbers and stuff. Stealth Rock Number, Leftovers Number, all that. I know I know. But now I see Empoleon with its standard Special Utility Set and 248 HP/252 SpD. 248 EV-Investment hits 371 HP. Question: Why don't you run 240HP/16Def/252SpD? You're having the same effect, but you're not 'wasting' 8 EV Points. Or am I missing something? That's why I'm asking in the first place.
371 HP (248 EV) divided by 16 (SR Damage or Leftovers Recovery) equals 23,1875 ~ 23.
369 HP (240 EV) divided by 16 (SR Damage or Leftovers Recovery) equals 23,0625 ~ 23.
Or even 236HP/20Def/252SpD? It would result in 368 HP and accordingly exactly 23. Thus, you don't waste percentages with Leftovers (ergo 368 = Leftovers Number). And yes, 368 would also be a nasty SR Number, but in this case its irrelevant, because nevertheless you will lose 23 HP and gain 23 HP again through Leftovers.
Or when you're thinking "Nah, I don't mind this stuff.", why don't you just run 252HP/4Def/252SpD and that's it? I'm asking this question, because someone must've sat their, thinking "Dude, 248/8/252". It's a standard set with decent usage in OU. Their must be some kind of reasoning.
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@Example 2:
Now Garchomp... Really, I don't get this set. Yeah, the 92 Speed EVs are for outspeeding Jolly Bish, I know. But I don't get the defense spread. In the SmogonDex, they say they need this build to survive Max Atk LO Bisharp Sucker Punch. But then I got this calc.
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Bisharp Sucker Punch vs. 240 HP / 176+ Def Garchomp: 289-341 (69.3 - 81.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
It survives it 'pretty easy'. You don't have to run this spread. So, why are you running this set? Are you trying to survive something, that isn't mentioned in the SmogonDex? For example: Why don't you run 164HP/252Def/92Spe? You have the same result in the Bisharp match up.
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Bisharp Sucker Punch vs. 164 HP / 252+ Def Garchomp: 270-320 (67.8 - 80.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
Or if your argument is "I want the extra HP to tank some special hits too". Why don't you run 252 HP/164Def/92Spe? Same result in the Bisharp match up.
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Bisharp Sucker Punch vs. 252 HP / 164+ Def Garchomp: 292-344 (69.5 - 81.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
I calced all the HP numbers (252 HP-EV = 420 HP; 240 HP-EV = 417 HP; 164 HP-EV = 398 HP), and none is a SR Number. I just don't understand the spread. As I said before, I think it's to survive something else. But neither in the Smogon Forum nor in the Dex I've found something.
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Guys, you would really help me a lot if you could answer my questions. :)
Thank you for your attention and have a nice evening!
Regards,
Eckleburg