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SPOILERS! Pokemon Sword and Shield Datamine Thread

My theories:

Expanding Force/ Rising Voltage / Grassy Glide / Misty Explosion:
Psychic, Electric, Grass and Fairy. Uses terrain somehow. Maybe they're like... 60 BP single-target move and when their respective terrains are up their base power doubles and becomes spread move.

Flip Turn: Well, water type u-turn.

Corrosive Gas: Just a poison type freeze-dry that hits steels for super effective damage. Zacian dislikes this.

Coaching: Similar to Oranguru's instruct but fighting type. Doubles move. Maybe like you use it on your partner so it uses one move from the user's moveset.

Meteor Beam: I think it's Ice-type and exclusive to Galarian Articuno. Meteors are kinda frozen rocks when in space.

Burning Jealously: Fire type and exclusive for Galarian Moltres. Maybe a cool secundary effect.

Terrain Pulse: Electric Type and exclusive for Galarian Zapdos. Maybe hits Ground types por super effective damage.

No ideas for the others.

Well... Let's see.
 
Here is my own attempt. I won't try to speculate too much on the effect unless there is some clear pointers in the name.
  • Expanding Force
It seems like the "Expanding Force" this is referring to might be the force that makes the universe expand, and like most cosmos themed moves, this is probably going to be a Psychic type move. If this is otherwise a more generic force, it might be Normal type.
  • Steel Roller
Steel type. Before this leak I speculated that G-Max Steelsurge would become a "real move" in this tutor batch, but the name of this move isn't too encouraging for this prospect.
  • Scale Shot
Seems to be a Dragon type move (similar to Kommo-o's signature moves).
  • Meteor Beam
Rock type, most likely special. Something makes me believe though, knowing Game Freak, that it will be associated less with Rock types and more with space borne Pokémon.
  • Shell Side Arm
This belongs clearly to Slowbro-Galar, it will be hard to tell what type it will be though.
  • Misty Explosion
Fairy type, the name seems to hint at something to do with terrains, which by extension might apply to other tutor moves of this batch.
  • Grassy Glide
Obviously Grass type, but I can't tell what it will do.
  • Rising Voltage
An Electric type move, which could be either a setup move, a weird status move, or a damaging move that vaguely sounds physical. Who knows.
  • Terrain Pulse
This is probably going to be a Terrain clone of Weather Ball (therefore Normal type). If it's not, I guess it is Psychic type instead to match the other Terrain moves, and Expanding Force is Normal type.
  • Skitter Smack
The choice of words (Skitter in English, "slither" in Italian) makes me believe this is a Bug type move, probably associated with fast Bug types. If First Impression did not exist, I would have said it was a priority move.
  • Burning Jealousy
Fire type, with who knows what secondary effect.
  • Lash Out
Dark type.
  • Poltergeist
Ghost type, but what the heck will it do? Hopefully it's a physical attack...
  • Corrosive Gas
Poison type Freeze-Dry, most likely. Or, less exciting, a Poison status that can hit Steel type, similar to what Salazzle already does.
  • Coaching
A Fighting type status move, likely doubles exclusive.
  • Flip Turn
A Water type U-turn, everybody has already said it. What were they thinking?
  • Triple Axel
Ice type, since it is based on an Ice skating dance move, it will probably be a setup move, possibly a physical Quiver Dance? That sounds really scary in the right hands (i.e. Weavile).
  • Dual Wingbeat
A Flying type move that probably hits twice. This sounds honestly like it would fix the movepool problems of Dragonite, Salamence and other winged Pokémon that aren't bird-like, but Gyarados and the genies would be (maybe for the better?) left in the dust.
  • Scorching Sands
Ground type Scald (yikes!), or, less likely, a Ground type Freeze-Dry that hits Grass or Bug types super-effectively, which sounds even worse.
  • Jungle Healing
We already knew about this. The fact that it is present here possibly indicates that Zarude will appear in the data for Isle of Armor, even though the date of its actual distribution is now a mystery, with "Coco" delayed. I guess old traditions are hard to die, huh.
  • Wicked Blow
Belongs to Urshifu-Single Strike, most likely Dark type, doesn't sound too exciting.
  • Surging Strikes
Belongs to Urshifu-Rapid Strike, most likely Water type. It sounds like it could be a multi-hit move.


I think Centro Pokémon is fairly reliable (if I am not mistaken, they were among the first to uncover SS base game leaks), but the fact that there is no independent confirmation (or refutation) of this yet, like from SciresM or Kaphotics is a bit annoying.

Meteor Beam: I think it's Ice-type and exclusive to Galarian Articuno. Meteors are kinda frozen rocks when in space.

Burning Jealously: Fire type and exclusive for Galarian Moltres. Maybe a cool secundary effect.

Terrain Pulse: Electric Type and exclusive for Galarian Zapdos. Maybe hits Ground types por super effective damage.
It's extremely unlikely that any of these moves belong to the Galarian birds, the Galarian Regis, Galarian Slowking, Calyrex, or any other Crown Tundra Pokémon, because they won't appear until Crown Tundra (duh). In other words, it would be too early to add their slots to HOME.
 
If these are indeed the tutor moves, it's mildly interesting that there seems to be only 1 move of each type, which suggests that unless the moves all have a photon geyser-esque effect there is only either a physical or special move of each type (or unless there are actually two versions of each move similar to z-moves/max moves and the dataminers opted not to post duplicates).

Hopefully the ice move is special and learned by a lot of Pokemon that are missing HP ice... :P
 
We've all been thinking Misty Explosion will get boosted by or otherwise set up Misty Terrain but I wonder if it might take away Mist Terrain? Like it takes in the terrain and explodes it. Really strong but you can only use it in the terrain & now the terrain is gone. I feel like all these moves might in some way be done to "spice up" VGC/competitive and having more terrain counterplay in some fashion other than just Defog and resetting your own terrain might be something they experiment with.
 
I wonder why we all think that Scorching Sand will be Ground-Type over Rock-type? I know that there’s quite a bit of moves with sand in the name that are ground, but then again Sandstorm is a rock move. Plus, there are only 2 rock special moves (power gem and ancient power) and few rock moves in comparison to other types. Scorching Sand also reminds me more of G-Max Volcalith, which is Rock Type.
 
It's extremely unlikely that any of these moves belong to the Galarian birds, the Galarian Regis, Galarian Slowking, Calyrex, or any other Crown Tundra Pokémon, because they won't appear until Crown Tundra (duh). In other words, it would be too early to add their slots to HOME.

Sorry, my mistake D:
I didn't realize this hahaha, but it would be cool

About Sand moves...
It's strange. Sand Tomb and Sand Attack are Ground. Sandstorm is Rock.
I guess invoking a sandstorm is too much for ground types to handle. However, Hippowdon exists.

We've all been thinking Misty Explosion will get boosted by or otherwise set up Misty Terrain but I wonder if it might take away Mist Terrain? Like it takes in the terrain and explodes it. Really strong but you can only use it in the terrain & now the terrain is gone. I feel like all these moves might in some way be done to "spice up" VGC/competitive and having more terrain counterplay in some fashion other than just Defog and resetting your own terrain might be something they experiment with.

Yeah, I thought this too.
Consuming the terrain to explode and deal massive spread damage.
 
I wonder why we all think that Scorching Sand will be Ground-Type over Rock-type? I know that there’s quite a bit of moves with sand in the name that are ground, but then again Sandstorm is a rock move. Plus, there are only 2 rock special moves (power gem and ancient power) and few rock moves in comparison to other types. Scorching Sand also reminds me more of G-Max Volcalith, which is Rock Type.
List of "Sand" things associated with ground type:
-Sand Attack
-Sand Tomb
-G-MAX Sandblast
-Soft Sand
-Shore Up (well it felt sand-y to me sinec its Palossand's signature move but ymmv)
-Sandshrew/Sandslash
-The Trapinch line, which lives in the desert sands
-Hippopotas line, which lives in the sands and also literally produces sand
-Silicobra line which spits sand and has a sack full of sand
-Also the Sand Spit ability
-Sandygast line, which is literally made of sand
-The only pokemon that aren't (part) ground type with Sand Veil are Cacnea & Helioptile's lines

List of "Sand" things associated with rock type:
-Sandstorm
-Tyrantiar (because it has Sandstream)
-Gigalith (because it has Sandstream)
-Sand Force is found on some Rock types, alongside Ground types.

And then there's Sand Rush which actually doesnt have a lot of users. If we want to count the "Draco" fossils as quasi-rock types then it's about a 50/50 split and also Stoutland is there.

I guess it could be a Rock type move, but Sand is heavily associated with Ground far more than it is Rock. And I doubt it'll be a special type attack since it's probably flinging heated sand at you or something.
....why is Sandstorm rock type...?
 
I'll bite, here's what I think these moves could be:
  • Expanding Force
    • I'm guessing Psychic-type, special, sets up terrain. Makes sense when you consider the other supposed terrain moves.
  • Steel Roller
    • Maybe just a Steel-type Steamroller, makes the most sense to me.
  • Scale Shot
    • Probably a Dragon-type special move, no idea if it will have any secondary effects if any, maybe defense drop as a drawback, à la Clanging Scales? Who knows.
  • Meteor Beam
    • Rock-type Steel Beam clone is my guess, could be a Rock-type Draco Meteor as well.
  • Misty Explosion
    • I'm guessing Fairy-type, special, sets up terrain. Makes sense when you consider the other supposed terrain moves.
  • Grassy Glide
    • I'm guessing Grass-type, special, sets up terrain. Makes sense when you consider the other supposed terrain moves.
  • Rising Voltage
    • I'm guessing Electric-type, special, sets up terrain. Makes sense when you consider the other supposed terrain moves.
  • Terrain Pulse
    • Probably Weather Ball for terrain yeah, my money's on that.
  • Skitter Smack
    • Looks like a physical Bug-type move to me, perhaps with some kind of interaction with Water Sport or Rain, making it have extra power, or increase speed?
  • Burning Jealousy
    • Maybe something à la Punishment but Fire-type and Special? I'd guess that.
  • Lash Out
    • Probably a Dark-type physical move, but I have no idea what the secondary effect could be. Maybe an Outrage / Thrash clone?
  • Poltergeist
    • Maybe this is the widely distributed physical Ghost-type STAB we've been waiting for?
  • Corrosive Gas
    • I'm guessing Poison Gas but being able to poison Poison- and Steel-types.
  • Coaching
    • I'd think this is a status Fighting move, not sure if this is exactly how it would work, but It'd be cool if it was a Doubles moves that increased the power of a given move used by your ally. So example, Sawk uses Karate Chop, Throh uses coaching on Sawk, now everytime Sawk uses Karate Chop it's gonna have a power boost until Sawk switches out.
  • Flip Turn
    • This is definitely Water-type U-turn, no doubts.
  • Triple Accel
    • Ice-type physical, probably with a Triple Kick kind of gimmick? They could make the hits 20, 30, and 40 BP for this one maybe to buff it.
  • Dual Wingbeat
    • Flying-type, Dual Chop clone, is my guess.
  • Scorching Sands
    • Going with the Ground-type Scald idea, makes the most sense to me.
The other moves are pretty clearly signature moves for Galarian Slowbro, both Urshifu, and Zarude. But yeah these are my best guesses, enjoyed seeing what others thought as well!
 
  • Poltergeist
    • Maybe this is the widely distributed physical Ghost-type STAB we've been waiting for?
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....why is Sandstorm rock type...?
There's another layer of weirdness, because Sandstorm (the weather condition) isn't even that strongly associated with Rock. It boosts the spdef of Rock types (added in Gen 4) and turns Weather Ball into a Rock move. That's it. Its primary effect favors Rock, Ground, and Steel equally, as does Sand Force.

It's also just a weird choice for a weather condition in general. It was one of the original three weather conditions, along with rain and harsh sunlight. Rain is standard precipitation, and harsh sunlight is basically the lack of meteorological activity. Sandstorms (or dust storms) are technically weather according to Wikipedia, but they're very conditional. Not only does there need to be strong winds, but there also has to be a lot of dust for the wind to blow. Hail was then added in Gen 3, and while the way it's treated in-game isn't at all how hail actually works (it's more akin to snow or ice pellets (sleet in the US, though that word means snow+rain everywhere else)), most of those icy weathers are pretty basic and ubiquitous, and none of them are conditional to ground features to the same degree as dust storms. Like, they're very conditional to temperature, and all weather is partly conditional to ground features in the sense that topography has a big impact on air currents, but they don't require a ton of physical ground material to not just be wind.
 
21 new moves, excluding Jungle Healing have been allegedly leaked for the DLC. There may be more than 22 altogether.

EDIT: These moves were datamined from the recent Home update
EDIT: The non-signature moves are likely to be the new tutor moves, one for each type

https://www.cpokemon.com/2020/05/22...vimientos-del-dlc-de-pokemon-espada-y-escudo/

TLDR here's the list
Burning Jealousy [Fire-type]
Coaching [Fighting-type] Scorching sands could be ground type acald. That 30% burn.
Corrosive Gas [Poison-type] [Corrosion as a move]
Dual Wingbeat [Flying-type] [Hits twice]
Expanding Force [Psychic-type]
Flip Turn [Water-type] [Pivoting move]
Grassy Glide [Grass-type]
Jungle Healing [Grass-type] [Zarude's signature move]
Lash Out [Dark-type]
Meteor Beam [Rock-type]
Misty Explosion [Fairy-type]
Poltergeist [Ghost-type]
Rising Voltage [Electric-type]
Scale Shot [Dragon-type]
Scorching Sands [Ground-type]
Shell Side Arm [Galarian Slowbro's signature move]
Skitter Smack [Bug-type]
Steel Roller [Steel-type]
Surging Strikes [Water-type] [Urshifu Rapid Strike Style's signature move]
Terrain Pulse [Normal-type] [Changes based on terrain]
Triple Axel [Ice-type]
Wicked Blow [Dark-type] [Urshifu Single Strike Style's signature move]
 
So two questions here. First, we learned some new moves. But did we learn of any new Pokemon that will be added or return with the first DLC?

Two, it looks like Home is what got data mined. Would people be able to pull stats for new Pokemon types like Zarude from Home? My understanding is that they cannot data mine the DLC until it is downloaded locally after release.
 
So two questions here. First, we learned some new moves. But did we learn of any new Pokemon that will be added or return with the first DLC?

Two, it looks like Home is what got data mined. Would people be able to pull stats for new Pokemon types like Zarude from Home? My understanding is that they cannot data mine the DLC until it is downloaded locally after release.
Adding to what the others said, Zarude's data is seemingly not here. Presumably these moves were added on accident, likely some wires got crossed as they were cleaning for the current update while another branch was preparing for a zarude/isle of armor update
 
Besides the two official images images showing a selection of returning Pokemon (scroll down to the bottom) I don't think there's been any other information besides Crown Tundra's promise of all legendaries returning and maybe some trailer cameos.

Well that is disappointing. About the wording, for legendary Pokemon, are they promising all of them in Crown Tundra or by the the time it releases? Meaning, can we expect some to come in Isle of Armor or do we have to wait for all to come together in Crown Tundra? I know the sample images only show a small amount, but seeing Garchomp and Electrivire on the right saddens me.

And I do wonder how the whole Gigantamax thing for starters will go down. I assume our starter will be "upgraded" to be able to Gigantamax, but what if we traded them away? Can we just use any starter we have on hand and bless it with Gigantamax abilities? I assume they'll only "upgrade" one such Pokemon meaning you'd have to trade to get all the starters in Gigantamax.

Or maybe they'll just give us a new gen 8 starter or starters when starting the expansion.
 
Well that is disappointing. About the wording, for legendary Pokemon, are they promising all of them in Crown Tundra or by the the time it releases? Meaning, can we expect some to come in Isle of Armor or all in Crown Tundra? I know the sample images only show a small amount, but seeing Garchomp and Electrivire on the right saddens me.

And I do wonder how the whole Gigantamax thing for starters will go down. I assume our starter will be "upgraded" to be able to Gigantamax, but what if we traded them away? Can we just use any starter we have on hand and bless it with Gigantamax abilities? I assume they'll only "upgrade" one such Pokemon meaning you'd have to trade to get all the starters in Gigantamax.

Or maybe they'll just give us a new gen 8 starter or starters when starting the expansion.
There's probably an NPC that can enable the Gen 1 and 8 starters to Gigantamax
 
Well that is disappointing. About the wording, for legendary Pokemon, are they promising all of them in Crown Tundra or by the the time it releases? Meaning, can we expect some to come in Isle of Armor or do we have to wait for all to come together in Crown Tundra? I know the sample images only show a small amount, but seeing Garchomp and Electrivire on the right saddens me.
The Legendary Pokemon will all be in Crown Tundra, seemingly through the co-op mode, as outlined in the trailer.
 
On Meteor Beam: I have my reservations about it being a likely Rock type, at least judging by the English name (haven't seen others) since it is specifically a Meteor Beam, with the emphasis on beam, rather than meteor, which takes away from the notion of being a Rock type move. Historically, most Rock type moves involve physical Rocks/gems, excepting Accelerock, Head Smash, Rollout, and Smack Down, which use hard physical contact. The newly added Tar Shot is pretty much the only deviation so far. Steel type, another likely candidate for Meteor + Beam is almost certainly taken, but what if it's actually Psychic type, owing to Meteor (Space) + Beam? If this is the case, then we have to consider where Rock type does belong, and I wonder if Expanding Force isn't actually it, suggesting e.g. large-scale movement of Rock (i.e. continental drift, landslides)?
 
My thoughts for a special Rock move would involve the force of compression that is involved in metamorphic rocks.

That said, I could see Meteor Beam being either Rock or Psychic. Psychic has more of the space association, but Rock is what most meteorites are made of (and ice/metal).

Meteor Mash is a nomenclative outlier; it's supposed to involve the act of punching a meteor (Japanese name is, humorously, Comet Punch).
 
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