vonFiedler

Oh sorry maybe I phrased that wrong, I meant instead of rating the games against each other in a list, just rate them individually through discussion, independent of other games and not ranking them at all. Then we could have a list of games with ratings but not in any discernable order, so we'd avoid the whole "how is _____ ahead of _____" crap you get with those lists.

Another option is to do away with the idea of ranking them against each other, and simply make this process about applying a comprehensive rating to each individual game, much like GameFAQs does. My goal then would be to devise a system of rating that is better than theirs, which would be a fun topic of discussion in itself. Do think this would be a more viable pursuit than the top 100 list itself?

As far as the margins of elimination, I've already made it so a game simply must receive more yes votes than no. What I could do is make this first wave of voting simply for the purpose of weeding out the obvious losers, and then a second wave of eliminations can be for the tougher decisions. The requirements for elimination would change with each round, to accommodate this. What do you think?

Well, an idea that occurred to me was something along the lines of a redemption, where certain games could be "brought back" from elimination. This would give games like CoD a deserved second chance, but the problem lies in how to achieve that. A popular vote would be useless there because the same people who voted it out the first time would vote it out again. A discussion is viable, but I would be forced to give myself more power--the power to judge the arguments, which I'm hesitant to do. I suppose it's inevitable though, as not all of the users are equal as far as intelligence goes.

I'm sorry if this comes across the wrong way, but you attacked me and I am defending myself. I have great respect for you and your knowledge, which is why I take the time to respond to you and actually consider your suggestions. I would expect the same respect and courtesy from you, rather than insulting me.

Further, I don't exercise veto power because I believe that's not fair to everyone else. Why should I have the absolute power to change a vote the community has spoken on? As unbiased as I attempt to be, I'm still human and imperfect. I am not going to sit here and pretend my view of a game is better than anyone else's, so vetoing a vote is not fair.

I am well aware of how futile this endeavor seems to you. It's probably too much to ask for Smogon to be sensible when they evaluate games. However, I wouldn't have begun this process if I didn't have confidence in my intelligence and ability to find a way to make it work. As I told you before, I am open to suggestions if you really think you have the answer. However, what I am not open to is complaining about how bad my work is without offering a solution. Until you actually take the time to devise and suggest a better way to do what I am doing, you are being just as "lazy" as you accuse me of doing.

Pardon me, but I fail to see how I haven't done "any" work. I was copy pasting people's nominations, but I was attempting to spot repetitions before they appeared on the list. Sure I missed some, it's a huge list and I couldn't be bothered to go through the entire list of 500 every time someone made a new post. I also made corrections immediately when I discovered mistakes. I took the time out of my busy schedule to type out these long posts, plan out the steps of the process, facilitate and track the nominations, create the surveys for voting (which I was counting BY HAND before), and respond to users such as yourself who had concerns and questions. I took sole responsibility for this, which means I opened myself for all of the backlash, mocking, disrespect, etc. without involving anyone else. I put that burden on MY shoulders alone, so don't tell me I'm lazy or not doing any work.

Languages:
Common
Elven
Dwarven
Halfling
Draconic
Infernal (Unless I can't, then Goblin.)

Uh, no. Tieflings speak common, right?

Oh I thought I pmed them to you when I was on irc, they are Shield and Targeted Bomb Admixture.

Oh I just got back in town yesterday, we're working on getting a time scheduled.

Haven't contacted him because I've been busy. Gonna VM him now and try and plan it.

ill try to do it tomorrow, sorry for the delay and inconveniences

he has been on vacation or something

Haven't been in contact yet. Will VM him after my exams finish (tomorrow).

We'll find a time to battle, we just have pretty far apart timezones, but we'll get it done, no worries.

Admittedly no, the only games I played with Wario were Wario Blast (also very fun) and MarioLand 2 (another forgotten but good title).

I feel the same way about the original Donkey Kong (the GB one with Mario) as you do about Ape Escape. Unfortunately nobody's ever really heard of it or played it so it likely won't make the cut.

you're in luck - Ape Escape survived the round when combining the poll with the post response numbers. 17 YES to 16 NO. =P

Yes, that was the general plan. My belief was that we would be capable of coming up with a complex enough rubric and weighting system to accurately reflect a game's worth, but nothing is set in stone yet. I'm eager to hear your idea since I genuinely want this plan to work.

Hopefully one of them fall during my holidays :)

Would you be able to find another player? Things are getting quite busy atm and although I wanted to play in this game, things keep coming up.

I'm sorry I took so long to say this but I was (and still am) wanting to play this game but I can't commit to this unless it's the holidays (which are in a couple of weeks but that'd hold the game up too much).

I'm sorry again to have stalled this game from happening but I was pretty sure until recently I'd have the time to create my character and do everything, however, I'd probably be pretty inactive in this game if I did choose to continue.

Hopefully you can find a more committed player and hopefully I can find the time to participate in another game in the future.

ultima v, huh?

Can't say anything bad about your list at all out of the games I'm familiar with, it just made me realize this list is going to be either dissatisfying, or trivially large

are you deliberately trying to prove the futility of a top ## list