5th Gen PRNG Help / Info - Latest: RNG Reporter 9.96.5, PPRNG 1.15.0

[Xanderpitz]

Going for Genesect wondercard now. I assume it's not GLAN? Also, does it matter if I change "never shiny" to "may be shiny"? Why is this an option?
~Uiru

I just finished RNGing the Genesect event. Yes, its standard Wondercard, not GLAN. I'd also keep it at Never Shiny, aside from the fact that it could screw up results, you also want to make sure you're doing everything right with BW2 RNGing in comparison to BW1.

Also, if you keep getting the wrong Genesect, use the Adjacent Seed Tool and Pokedex-IV checker to find what Frame and Timer0 you're hitting (The starting frame for each Timer0 is the starting PIDRNG frame for that seed. Just count how many advancements you did from that frame to compare results.)

I can't find my parameters in the calibration process.

I'm following the steps in this video because I've read that the calibration process is the same in BW2.

I set my DS clock to the exact time of my parameter finder window, and set the target seconds on eontimer, then I start my game and sweet scent in victory road, then I catch a Pokemon and write the IV's, but everytime I search for results, I get none.

I'm using a DS lite.

This is a screenshot of my parameter finder window.

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Is there something I'm doing wrong?

The calibration process is ALMOST the same in BW2 as BW1. The only difference is the Timer0 fluctuates a lot (within a small range). Timer0s should not longer be within Cxx range, but rather near 10E0 - 1130. Reading back in this thread I've found many people, including myself, to get a range near 10F2-10F7. Insert the 10E0 - 1130 range in the Timer0 box and you should probably get your parameters.

 

[Musica]

My bad, I wasn't reading that start of your post, Cefiro. I assume you're breeding in BW1.
Don't use everstones. It'll be more difficult to know which frame you landed on when confirming your PID Frame.


To know which PID Frame you are on, you can use the Chatot calls' pitches. It's easier that way, and somehow similar to Elm Calls back ni HG/SS. It advances the frame, and at the same time, verifies your seed. If you're not fond of that, get your egg immediately after an attempt to hit your seed, hatch that egg and check the nature of the Pokemon. Subtract that initial frame from your target frame and repeat the steps and this time, do the Chatot flips.

For example, RNG Reporter shows me an initial frame of 40 for a Hardy Nature, while my target frame is 50 for Jolly Nature. After getting the egg and hatching it, I get a Calm Nature, which is on 43. I repeat the whole process and do 7 Chatot flips before I get the egg.

 

[voodoo pimp]

Going for Genesect wondercard now. I assume it's not GLAN? Also, does it matter if I change "never shiny" to "may be shiny"? Why is this an option?
~Uiru

Xanderpitz is correct, it's not GLAN (since it's genderless). And that option is there because several Wonder Cards (they've all been Japanese so far IIRC) do not have the shiny block, so they can be either shiny or non-shiny. Genesect isn't one of those, so leave it as never shiny.

 

[musicalbento]

Trying to RNG Latios in the dream yard...anyone done this before? I noticed it forces you into the fight the first go around, so would it be best for me to save one step before the encounter and just chatter one frame or is there an easier way to do it?

 

[mhybear]

Yes save one step before the encouter then advance your PIDRNG frame (chatot, saving) then move forward for the encouter... It won't mess up with the IVRNG...

 

[Pokethan]

So why is breeding a total mess in BW2? I know that is says it in the OP but I was wondering what specifically is making it so impossible? Also is there any other way to confirm your seed than Chatot calls? Because the tone of the chatot call is very subjective when compared to Elm calls or Coin Flips which are concrete indicators since Chatot calls are based upon what you hear and that can be skewed easily.

 

[Philderbeast]

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4306581&postcount=929

that post explains whats broken with breeding as far as RNGing goes

 

[Blootix]

Oh, Eon Timer. Honestly, if you're using a DS Lite/Phat, which have the clock with the minute and seconds hand, you don't really need Eon Timer. It's for people using a DSi/3DS. I suggest trying to use the clock instead of Eon Timer, and taking the 1 second offset into account.

Yes, that's normal. The more you restrict your search criteria (like flawless IVs, min/max frame both set to one, etc. etc.) you get less results.

Edit@above post: Yes, it's pretty much the same, just that you can hit more timer0s in B2/W2.

So I've just tried to do it several more times with your advice in mind (the one-second offset). I've been getting the EXACT SAME pokemon each time (for each seed), with the same IVs/nature/species, but they're not the IV flawless Pokemon I'm looking for, so I'm guessing something must be systematically wrong with the way I'm doing this (or else I wouldn't get the same Pokemon with the same stats/nature every single time). It's either the calibration is off, or I'm doing something wrong starting the game. But I feel like I've followed the instructions. Is it likely that the calibration is off?

EDIT: I've done around 10 calibrations, and I get the exact same seeds in Time Finder. :(

 

[shangecc]

I‘m trying to RNG azelf at route 23 and I’ve already got one. This azelf is shinny with the correct IVs I want, but do not have a timid nature.

I’m sure I have place a timid synch PM at the head of my party and the RNG reporter shows the PID frame is a synch one.

I dont know what I did wrong...(I've successfully RNGed a shinny latios with IVs I want at the dream yard,so I think my basic RNG steps is right)

 

[Professor Birch]

ok im having some issue trying to RNG my genesect wondercard.

I have calibtrated and found my range of timer0's and selected a seed that falls in there, got my chatot set up and ready to go.

so im resetting on the right time (using eon timer to manage the extra 8 second delay for my console) and then listen to chatot 16 times (to advance to frame 66 from 48 that rng reporter is giving me.) but the stats Im getting are no where in the adjacent seed tool.

any ideas what i might be doing wrong?

Actually yes. First off make sure the Chatot has a recorded chatter. Next, 66-48 is 18 not 16. Otherwise, there should be no problem.

 

[RotatingAtom]

Just a quick question:
I'll get White 2 tomorrow. If I already know the parameters for my DS Lite (german) which I figured out using White 1, can I calculate the parameters for White 2 from those or do I need to re-calibrate?

 

[tyons]

you need to re-calibrate.

 

[Newts]

Ok, I've done my calibration, know what I'm aiming for so I just need some clarification. I've done a ton of this stuff in HG/SS and earlier but B/W is all new to me.

I'm saved in front of Volcarona and want to hit the highlighted spread. So basically I just walk 2*128 steps with my team of 5 to get frame 10, but and then what? Do I save/chatter 338 times, 339 times, or do I subtract the initial 11 and only do it 328 times?

Reporter screencap

Sorry you probably get this all the time so thanks for any help :)

 

[Cereza]

Ok, I've done my calibration, know what I'm aiming for so I just need some clarification. I've done a ton of this stuff in HG/SS and earlier but B/W is all new to me.

I'm saved in front of Volcarona and want to hit the highlighted spread. So basically I just walk 2*128 steps with my team of 5 to get frame 10, but and then what? Do I save/chatter 338 times, 339 times, or do I subtract the initial 11 and only do it 328 times?

Reporter screencap

Sorry you probably get this all the time so thanks for any help :)

That's an impossible shiny frame to hit. Every time you take step the PIDrng frame aka shiny frame will advance by 2. Since you need to take at least 256 steps{512 pid advances} to reach your iv frames, you see how only on that you go over your target.

Try to look for a seed with an iv frame of 1

 

[Newts]

That's an impossible shiny frame to hit. Every time you take step the PIDrng frame aka shiny frame will advance by 2. Since you need to take at least 256 steps{512 pid advances} to reach your iv frames, you see how only on that you go over your target.

Try to look for a seed with an iv frame of 1

Ahh that makes sense, I must have overlooked that bit -_- I thought it was just an area with wild pokes like grass or caves that did that (which I just found out is the case in Volcaronas room). Lucky I asked before trying lol

Thanks :)

 

[mhybear]

Has anyone successfully RNG'ed the starter for BW2? Can you share your tips? I have already RNG'ed my TID/SID so all that's left is to get the Pokemon...

 

[Metal Sphere]

Hey, everyone. I came here for a little help on RNGing Genesect. I'm still really new at this, but I managed to get a 31/20/31/31/31/31 Keldeo in White 1. HOWEVER, that's not the case in White 2.

I do the calibration as I learned how from bearsfan's video on Youtube, just like I did it for Keldeo. Then I plug that into the time finder, put in my desired IVs, and search. Now here's where the problems start.

When I go and put them into the main RNG Reporter, I get awful IV spreads and obscene target frames. It doesn't matter how much I compromise on the IVs I want, I never get a good one from the seeds I'm getting.

But the worst part of all is that when I DO get a seed that looks promising, it seems like I can't hit it. It always comes out with the wrong nature and IVs.

Relevant info:
RNG Reporter 9.96.1

Wondercard Genesect with 31/31/31/31/31/31

Target Seed:E2CAB273F27C532E
Date: 10/29/12
Time: 16:27:46
Keypresses: Start+Up+R
Hasty
31/31/31/31/30/31
Starting Frame: 55
Target Frame: 56
Pokecenter: Accumula Town (No moving NPCs)
Mac Address: 001656433607

This is only one of 2 seeds Time Finder found after 3 hours of searching. It's perfect but I can't hit it at all. The other results are much worse. I'll post the stats and IVs of my latest attempt in a bit.

Edit: Okay, here it is.

Genesect
Level 15
Rash
Alert to sounds
HP 46 (0-4)
Atk 41 (0-6)
Def 35 (10-16)
SAtk 46 (7-13)
SpDef 31 (10-16)
Spe 39 (31)

 

[emboars]

Has anyone successfully RNG'ed the starter for BW2? Can you share your tips? I have already RNG'ed my TID/SID so all that's left is to get the Pokemon...

i did bt its only possible to do the iv rng and the nature gender is luck.....

 

[Cefiro]

I had the same struggle and the same hours of finding a spread. Just keep using Adjacent Seeds to check what you're hitting. It's probably just Timer0 fluctuations.
How many times have you tried to hit it? If it's less than 30 you shouldn't complain just yet.


My question: For Chatot pitches, am I supposed to hear the pitch ON the target frame and know I'm ready to collect, or is the pitch one BEFORE the target frame the one I'm supposed to hear to know I'm done.

 

[Metal Sphere]

I had the same struggle and the same hours of finding a spread. Just keep using Adjacent Seeds to check what you're hitting. It's probably just Timer0 fluctuations.
How many times have you tried to hit it? If it's less than 30 you shouldn't complain just yet.


My question: For Chatot pitches, am I supposed to hear the pitch ON the target frame and know I'm ready to collect, or is the pitch one BEFORE the target frame the one I'm supposed to hear to know I'm done.

So far I'm going on 10 attempts, and yes, it takes hours just to get a spread. I'm glad I'm not the only one agonizing over this.

 

[mhybear]

i did bt its only possible to do the iv rng and the nature gender is luck.....

That sucks... Anyway if I ain't gonna get shiny then there is no point, lol...

On a different note, How do I use BW1 egg abuse for nidoran? How do I determine spreads that give a Nidoran-M, for example, in time finder? What option do I select after clicking the check box for Nidoran?

Thanks!

 

[emboars]

I had the same struggle and the same hours of finding a spread. Just keep using Adjacent Seeds to check what you're hitting. It's probably just Timer0 fluctuations.
How many times have you tried to hit it? If it's less than 30 you shouldn't complain just yet.


My question: For Chatot pitches, am I supposed to hear the pitch ON the target frame and know I'm ready to collect, or is the pitch one BEFORE the target frame the one I'm supposed to hear to know I'm done.

when you hear a pitch you are currently on the corresponding pitch (pid)frame...so when you battle you get the next frame...so you should stop 1 frame before ur target frame

 

[Cefiro]

Genesect guy: Just make sure you confirm what it is you're hitting, which is super easy with Wondercards via adjacent seeds.

It took me about 3 combined hours to find two spreads with different natures, but I did RNG both.
The first took me a ridiculous amount of tries, between 20 and 30 I would say.
The second took me only 2.


Right now I'm on god knows what # Nidoran attempt, I am hitting the frames ONE BELOW AND ONE ABOVE my target! DAMN YOU CPUs! DAMN YOU TO HELL!

 

[Cefiro]

when you hear a pitch you are currently on the corresponding pitch (pid)frame...so when you battle you get the next frame...so you should stop 1 frame before ur target frame

Picking up from the daycare man counts as 1 frame advancement too right?
Well damn, my most recent attempt I heard the low low low high and then picked it up, and did indeed miss my mark by one frame.

Geez, the three low low low in a row right before my frame does not help me much at all. But I'm so close that I don't want to switch seeds.
NIDOKING IMMA COMING!
The worst part is that right when I think I am getting used to the pitches my Timero fluctuates and I loose the groove.

And the guy who asked about the gender for the king n queen, when you look at the main menu after generating your seed on it, there is a box that states what gender you got (ignore the actual gender boxes, they don't matter).

 

[Metal Sphere]

Genesect guy: Just make sure you confirm what it is you're hitting, which is super easy with Wondercards via adjacent seeds.

It took me about 3 combined hours to find two spreads with different natures, but I did RNG both.
The first took me a ridiculous amount of tries, between 20 and 30 I would say.
The second took me only 2.


Right now I'm on god knows what # Nidoran attempt, I am hitting the frames ONE BELOW AND ONE ABOVE my target! DAMN YOU CPUs! DAMN YOU TO HELL!

Good lord, looks like I'm in for pure hell. Any reason why this is so finnicky compared to the Keldeo Wondercard?