Bug Reports v3 [READ ORIGINAL POST before posting]

[Totomimi]

Not sure if the team is already aware of this but I might be able to shed some light on the extent of it.
Firstly Roar and some other phazing moves/methods are usable on Dynamaxed Pokemon, which is verifiably not true on cart (thanks duckpond for the easy to google video).
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8ou-1012756689

Additionally, as a consequence of phazing a dynamaxed pokemon, the now phazed Pokemon keeps its 200% HP bar for the rest of the match (as far as I can tell).
Evidenced here with Red Card: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8ou-1012756689
and here with Dragon Tail:

No evidence but I also noticed that Charizard had 596 HP after being Roared in the first replay as well.
This may be a non-issue if Dynamax users can't be phazed on cart altogether, but it's worth noting if that is not the case.


Disguise has been nerfed on cart to deal some damage in SwoSh IIRC, so this is likely working as intended.

On turn 23, my opponent notices that their Coalossal that had Dynamaxed on Turn 7 retained its Dynamax-boosted HP despite having been switched out forcefully by my Milotic's Dragon Tail.
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8unratedrandombattle-1012759985

Has anyone tested in Cartridge whether Red Card actually phases Dynamax pokemon because considering previous mechanics (ie. it doesnt force out ingrained mons) I'm not sure it does.

This bug has been fixed, phazing moves such as whirlwind, roar, dragon tail and red card will no longer work on dynamax.

 

[Frubblez]

My ditto was transformed into eternatus and had the option to dynamax and I could click a move but it said I have already dynamxed a pokemon (I hadn't). I get that you can't dynamax eternatus but then the option to should not be there.

 

[Xanax_Crimea]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8ou-1012886875

Gmax Hattern doesn't retain magic bounce for some reason.

 

[urkerab]

The mouseover display of your opponent’s Pokemon gives more information than would be available in game. When using a Max move, your opponent can see how much PP it has, even if you haven’t used the base move yet. This lets you figure out what the base move is or could be.

I think tooltip always shows Max moves as having 8 PP, so you can't tell what the base move is.

Moody should not be able to change accuracy or evasion in gen 8
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8customgame-1012540442
in this replay in turn 1 moody boosted accuracy and turn 7 it lowered evasion

Do you have a source for this?

 

[Bread Sandwich]

Do you have a source for this?

https://www.serebii.net/swordshield/updatedabilities.shtml

 

[Yung Dramps]

After doing some fairly extensive research and asking around on various Smogon-related chats, I can't find anything suggesting that the Alolan forms of certain returning Kanto Pokemon (Ninetales, Raichu, Persian and Dugtrio) are obtainable in Sword and Shield without transferring them in from a prior game via Home. Seeing as the current Gen 8 OU ladder is based on pre-Home, all of these forms should be made illegal unless proof can be presented that they are obtainable in-game. This is especially important for Ninetales seeing as there have been quite a few Alolan Ninetales Veil teams floating around that shouldn't be legal

 

[Ginger Princess]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen81v1-1012859927

Is Gigantimax Alcreamie supposed to restore 100% of its health in singles? That seems busted beyond belief

 

[SaturnZelda]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8randombattle-1012991451 Alolan formes found in gen 8 randbats, while not being available in game

 

[Retro_Akabane]

G-Max Stun Shock seems to be missing from the moves list

 

[fitzy72]

[Invalid choice] Can't move: You can't choose a target for Lava Plume
[Invalid choice] There's nothing to cancel

Doubles does not allow you Dynamax and choose Max Flare with Lava Plume. It shows the waiting for opponent text after this but my timer still counted down.

 

[KawaiiiiPotato]

Polteageist's Teatime seems to have a problem with berries. In the clip, the Polteageist turn 1, consuming both berries once. However, the Charizard consumes its Petaya berry again on turn 5. In addition, the chat shows that both pokemon "lost" their berries, which makes me think that the berries are supposed to be eaten and not recycled.

Clip: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen81v1-1013001072

 

[Morkal]

Appletun and Flapple's exclusive ability "Ripen" affects the ability Leftovers. It doubles Leftovers recovery, making it set to recover 1/8th of HP every turn instead of the normal 1/16th. It's still only the normal 1/16th on Showdown, this needs to be fixed.

 

[JZG]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8randombattle-1013003401 On turn 4, Tsareena receives the speed boost from its Choice Scarf on its first turn of Dynamax, however on subsequent turns it correctly is not effected by the item.

 

[Ginger Princess]

i got a meloetta with no moves in gen8cc1v1

 

[gildedjet]

Just to note, weather ball is supposed to change to the appropriate weather-based type after dynamaxing, but it just stays with max strike atm. (Not sure how it's supposed to work with G-max moves though.)

 

[Rasengan777]

My ditto was transformed into eternatus and had the option to dynamax and I could click a move but it said I have already dynamxed a pokemon (I hadn't). I get that you can't dynamax eternatus but then the option to should not be there.

Same

 

[Sylphiod]

When I tried to dynamax my crustle in a random battle and clicked the max quake which was originally earthquake. I got timed out because it said it was an invalid selection.

 

[Obinwankenobi]

What happened to playing gen 7 LC?

 

[Mirakmel]

Mimikyu takes 9% to 10% damage after having his disguise broken. I thought he wasn’t supposed to take damage until the second hit because of his ability? I’m playing in gen 8.

 

[Sylphiod]

Mimikyu takes 9% to 10% damage after having his disguise broken. I thought he wasn’t supposed to take damage until the second hit because of his ability? I’m playing in gen 8.

Gen 8 Disguise has been updated to deal damage 1/8 upon breaking

 

[Broccoli nyu]

I don't know if this is a bug but the move metronome is able to use dynamax moves

 

[Apagogie]

In cc1v1, Meloetta doesn't look to have any move.

 

[Totomimi]

When I tried to dynamax my crustle in a random battle and clicked the max quake which was originally earthquake. I got timed out because it said it was an invalid selection.

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8doublesoubeta-1012703446-cqqogts8988jvyydceuej1m65sc6hrkpw

turn 2, can't select Clanging Scales when dynamax and then can't choose the opponent where i want to use it

I came here to mention this. This bug happens with every spread move, and you can't just not select a target, but you can't use the move at all

There is a weird glitch in doubles where i used dazzling gleam once on ninetales-alola and G-Max Finale on Alcremie and it said I can't choose a target, which is true, but I didn't. I think it was confusing the G-max move with Dazzling gleam somehow.

Fixed. You can now use max spread moves in doubles.

Max Moves currently use the Z-Move Base Power conversion table. I used a Heliolisk and when I hovered over Max Lightning (Thunderbolt), the Base Power was displayed as 175. This is way stronger than Max Moves are supposed to be. Max Lightning off of Thunderbolt should only have a base power of 130. Also Max Volt Switch had a Power of 145, when it should be 120.

Proof

https://www.smogon.com/forums/threa...chanics-research.3655528/page-13#post-8287541

Not sure if this was already known, but now it's confirmed 100% Choice items have no effect while Dynamaxed. In addition, the idea that they are still in effect on Turn 1 is completely false, as OP tested and found the moment he activated Dynamax, the boosts for Choice items disappeared. So yeah, if this knowledge hasn't been put on the sim yet include it pls, as it nerfs the mechanic overall by getting rid of whack-ass Choice item sweeps.

Also, have the Max Move BPs actually been updated on Showdown? I heard they were, but when I hover over them they still show the old Z-move-tier BPs.

Thanks for reporting, Max moves now correctly display their base power.

Hello, could not save the video for the match, but I have encountered several bugs involving G-Max Lapras. At first, G-Resonance would create an Aurora Veil for the opposing team rather than your own. Now, however, (And I'm not sure if this is just to act as a place holder until the G-Resonance problem is fixed) G-Resonance doesn't pop up anymore and is replaced by Max Hailstorm.

G-resonance now creates aurora veil on the user's side. If your Lapras is using Max Hailstorm instead, you are using a non gmax lapras, try selecting the gmax version on teambuilder.

It appears that in the teambuilder, Mew can learn Soft-Boiled:

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So in /learn:

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But not in validation:

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There are quite a few pokemon that use toxic, but are not from the 20 mons that can actually use it.

Gen 8 movesets issues in teambuilder have been fixed.

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8randombattle-1012819875

destiny bond doesn't affect dynamax don't know if it's a bug, i prefer to indicatet it.

This is not a bug. Destiny bond can't KO a dynamax pokemon.

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8balancedhackmons-1012849960

For some reason, transforming using the move Transform makes the simulator say that my Ability is supressed (Heckin Weeb's Wobbuffet). This does not happen when transforming with Imposter.

Double magic bounce is probably suppressing the ability. I won't be checking for balanced hackedmons reports for the moment, considering there's still work to be done in legal tiers.

Not sure if this goes here, but..

It's impossible for mobile players to access the Anything Goes tier for previous generation's, and I think a few others. This means I personally cant play Showdown how I want to, and I'm sure it has effected other users as well. I have several Gen 7 Anything Goes teams i can't use, since I'm stuck playing only on mobile.View attachment 207382

Gen 7 anything goes has been readded for a month. Then the tier will be removed to accomodate the new tiers. Refer to this thread for more information https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/changes-to-old-gens-ladders-a-public-vote.3621653/

My ditto was transformed into eternatus and had the option to dynamax and I could click a move but it said I have already dynamxed a pokemon (I hadn't). I get that you can't dynamax eternatus but then the option to should not be there.

Indeed, Ditto users shouldn't be given the option to dynamax in this case. Thanks for the report.

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8ou-1012886875

Gmax Hattern doesn't retain magic bounce for some reason.

Gmax version of pokemon were not retaining their abilities when dinamaxing, this has been fixed.

After doing some fairly extensive research and asking around on various Smogon-related chats, I can't find anything suggesting that the Alolan forms of certain returning Kanto Pokemon (Ninetales, Raichu, Persian and Dugtrio) are obtainable in Sword and Shield without transferring them in from a prior game via Home. Seeing as the current Gen 8 OU ladder is based on pre-Home, all of these forms should be made illegal unless proof can be presented that they are obtainable in-game. This is especially important for Ninetales seeing as there have been quite a few Alolan Ninetales Veil teams floating around that shouldn't be legal

Thank you for the report! Alolan formes along with igglybuff have been marked as unreleased and are no longer legal in gen 8 battles.

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen81v1-1012859927

Is Gigantimax Alcreamie supposed to restore 100% of its health in singles? That seems busted beyond belief

Hmm, it does look overpowered, I posted the question to the mechanics research thread at https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/sword-shield-battle-mechanics-research.3655528/

Appletun and Flapple's exclusive ability "Ripen" affects the ability Leftovers. It doubles Leftovers recovery, making it set to recover 1/8th of HP every turn instead of the normal 1/16th. It's still only the normal 1/16th on Showdown, this needs to be fixed.

This is under investigation in the mechanics research thread

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8randombattle-1013003401 On turn 4, Tsareena receives the speed boost from its Choice Scarf on its first turn of Dynamax, however on subsequent turns it correctly is not effected by the item.

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8oubeta-1012690273

Turn 12, Galarian Darmanitan against Chandelure, both scarfed max speed but Chandelure somehow outsped.

In the endgame, a scarf Keldeo attacked before a +1 Malamar, meaning it properly outsped. However, after the Malamar dynamaxed, the Malamar went first. Not sure what is causing this inconsistency but it's a huge problem.

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8randombattle-1012300133

This bug has been fixed, choice scarf no longer has an effect during the first turn of a dynamax

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i got a meloetta with no moves in gen8cc1v1

Thanks for reporting, but issues specific to non-standard formats will probably be handled down the line.

Lapras’ G-Max move puts aurora veil on the wrong side of the field (should reduce damage received, not damage inflicted)

Obstagoon’s obstruct blocks all moves (including status moves), instead of just blocking attacks.

Currently G-Max Resonance from Gigantimax Lapras summons Aurora Veil for your opponent.

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8oubeta-1012366890

G-max Resonance is giving foe Aurora veil instead of our team

Lapras G-Max move is now fixed.

Moody should not be able to change accuracy or evasion in gen 8
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8customgame-1012540442
in this replay in turn 1 moody boosted accuracy and turn 7 it lowered evasion

Fixed, moody no longer modifies evasion or accuracy. I wonder whether it will be unbanned.

 

[HaxBro.K]

As told earlier, choice items don't give a boost to dynamax pokés, but this Toxtricity Scarf atk before my Darmanitan
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8ou-1013135817-pqfgrbz6u84ht1y8ewfuxab5f532v0qpw

 

[maveresan]

Stuff Cheeks doesn't seem to work proprely, the user should eat its berry and getting a +2 boost in defense, but there it just gets the def boost. Even the description of the move in the teambuilder doesn't say anything about the berry eating part.