[19:57] phosphunosaurus: and then come back
[19:57] Birkal: TYPING DISCUSSION
[19:57] Birkal: GO
[19:57] Birkal: no steel
[19:57] phosphunosaurus: And see the winning deisgn
[19:57] Birkal: no psychic
[19:57] Divinity: electric
[19:57] Birkal: no ground
[19:57] Jordy: ok hear me out
[19:57] Birkal: everything else is game
[19:57] pip: fairy/ghost
[19:57] quziel: Electric
[19:57] Dogfish44: basic comp moves first?
[19:57] Jordy: electric/electric
[19:57] Reviloja753: Elec/Fairy
[19:57] Jho: dude elec fairy is hot
[19:57] Birkal: actually ground is ok
[19:57] SgtMoose: normal for those body slams
[19:57] phosphunosaurus: electric/psychic
[19:57] StephanXPM: yeah elec/fairy
[19:57] Divinity: elec/water
[19:57] TwilightWing: GHOST/NORMAL
[19:57] phosphunosaurus: elec/ground is kinda hot
[19:57] quziel: is there'a 30% spdef drop move?
[19:57] Jho: theres a 50% one
[19:57] SgtMoose: shadow ball
[19:57] Jho: :eyes:
[19:57] quziel: Sball is 10%
[19:57] TwilightWing: How about
[19:57] Divinity: 40%
[19:57] quziel: iirc
[19:57] StephanXPM: water/elec
[19:57] SgtMoose: oh right
[19:57] SgtMoose: shit
[19:57] StephanXPM: for scald :wink:
[19:58] TwilightWing: Ghost/ice
[19:58] phosphunosaurus: no freeze
[19:58] wulfanator72: What I miss?
[19:58] TwilightWing: Ice has a lot of secondary effects
[19:58] pip: i like the idea of it being fairy
[19:58] quziel: no ice pls
19:58] Reviloja753: We’re doing ability actualization with serene grace
[19:58] Birkal: just gonna make a list here, don't mind me
[19:58] SgtMoose: water
[19:58] pip: moonblast and play rough are both very cool
[19:58] Divinity: elec/ghost or elec/water
[19:58] quziel: I have 0 desire to ever think about a mon with reliable freeze
[19:58] SgtMoose: scald it up
[19:58] quziel: yo
[19:58] quziel: how about normal
[19:58] SgtMoose: Serene Grace Scald boys
[19:58] Reviloja753: Elec/Fairy or Ghost/Fairy
[19:58] quziel: and then design the mon about SG Tri Attack
[19:58] snake_rattler: normal for serene grace crush claw
[19:58] Reviloja753: Even mono fairy
[19:58] quziel: the dumbest possible move
[19:58] wulfanator72: Discharge hex
[19:58] phosphunosaurus: electric/ground is hot just saying
[19:58] Reviloja753: That’s another choice
[19:58] phosphunosaurus: But also elec/ghost is wavy
[19:58] quziel: what secondary effect moves does ground have
[19:59] SgtMoose: Bulldoze
[19:59] quziel: mega rotom seems hot af though
[19:59] Jho: EP has spdf drop
[19:59] Divinity: ep spdef drop
[19:59] Reviloja753: Earth power that’s it
[19:59] pip: electric flying? :wink:
[19:59] Birkal: electric/fairy
fairy/ghost
ghost/normal
electric/ghost
ghost/fairy
DOn"T VOTE YET
[19:59] quziel: mega rotom seeming real fun here
[19:59] Birkal: banning water
[19:59] pip: aaa
[19:59] Dogfish44: ground is a terrible ttype to actualise from btw
[19:59] Birkal: because screw scald
[19:59] StephanXPM: ;_; water noo
[19:59] SgtMoose: Noooooo rip scald
[19:59] Birkal: that stuff is just not ok
[19:59] quziel: Normal seems ultrareliable
[19:59] Birkal: wit me
[19:59] Divinity: elec/flying
[19:59] quziel: and from usign togetic in DPPNU
19:59] Reviloja753: Why are ghost/fairy and fairy/ghost two different combos
[19:59] pip: oh normal could be cool i guess
[19:59] quziel: I know that SG tri attack is ultralegit
[19:59] Jordy: normal/electric
[19:59] Reviloja753: Normal/fairy
[19:59] quziel: can someone !dt tri attack
[19:59] Jho: sounds hot
[19:59] Jho: -dt tri-attack
[20:00] BOTPhosphophyllite:
(Pokedex) Tri Attack
Normal-Type | Special | 80 Power | 100 Acc | 10 PP
20% chance to paralyze or burn or freeze target.
[20:00] Birkal: what moves does normal get for this
[20:00] quziel: ye
[20:00] snake_rattler: crush claw
[20:00] quziel: 16% chance of all 3
[20:00] quziel: is fuckin hilariuos
[20:00] Jordy: tri attack
[20:00] quziel: Tri Attack is the coolest
[20:00] phosphunosaurus: Shit crush claw is hot
[20:00] TwilightWing: dark/fairy?
[20:00] wulfanator72: Relic song
[20:00] quziel: but there's also like a bunch of others
[20:00] pip: does dragon have good secondaries?
[20:00] quziel: on physical and special side
[20:00] Birkal: no
[20:00] TwilightWing: ah wait
[20:00] pip: no nvm
[20:00] SgtMoose: yeah gotta normal it up
[20:00] snake_rattler: dragon breath
[20:00] phosphunosaurus: Crush claw into like play rough
[20:00] StephanXPM: dragonbreath
[20:00] quziel: if we do physical electric we created jirachi v2 thanks to zing zap btw
[20:00] StephanXPM: lol
[20:00] Reviloja753: What does crush claw do
[20:00] Dogfish44: Elec/Normal sounds fun tbh. Zing Zap is basically Iron Head but Elec
[20:00] Jho: -dt crush claw
[20:00] BOTPhosphophyllite:
(Pokedex) Crush Claw
Normal-Type | Physical | 75 Power | 95 Acc | 10 PP
50% chance to lower the target's Defense by 1.
[20:00] Reviloja753: Oh boy
[20:00] Divinity: is 100% charge beam worth running on elec
[20:00] Jordy: shoutouts jirachi
[20:00] quziel: I vote no on flinch typings btw
[20:01] Reviloja753: Normal/Fairy thank you
[20:01] phosphunosaurus: Normal/something
[20:01] Birkal: -dt zing zap
[20:01] BOTPhosphophyllite:
(Pokedex) Zing Zap
Electric-Type | Physical | 80 Power | 100 Acc | 10 PP
30% chance to flinch the target.
[20:01] Divinity: elec/fire
[20:01] Birkal: y'all just makin up moves now
[20:01] phosphunosaurus: Normal gives us headbutt
[20:01] SgtMoose: SG Poison Fang would always Toxic
[20:01] quziel: scarf togedemaru, lord of NU
[20:01] Reviloja753: Omg that sounds amazing
[20:01] quziel: Poison seems real cool ye
[20:01] pip: hmm i think i like normal fairy and elec fairy
[20:01] Jho: toge carried me through PU seasonal
[20:01] Reviloja753: Poison/Fairy maybe
[20:01] quziel: either physical or special
[20:01] phosphunosaurus: Normal/poison
[20:01] pip: poison fairy is also not not heat
[20:01] Dogfish44: PFang can be done on the side tho
[20:01] Jho: until he was unjustly banned
[20:01] quziel: Normal/Poison
[20:01] pip: which is to say, heat
[20:01] quziel: seems real heat
20:01] Dogfish44: like you don't need STAB imo
[20:01] quziel: ngl
[20:01] Birkal: what does fairy give us
[20:01] Birkal: play rough
[20:01] Jho: 60% drops
[20:01] SgtMoose:
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Additional_effect
Additional effect
An additional effect (Japanese: 追加効果 additional effect) is the in-battle secondary effect of a damaging move.
Additional effects include stat changes or status conditions with a chance of occurring. Some moves can also have more than one additional effect; Ice Fang is...
[20:01] snake_rattler: moonblast
[20:01] quziel: its even a pretty solid typing
[20:01] StephanXPM: moonblast
[20:01] Reviloja753: Moonblast
[20:01] Birkal: moonblast o yah
[20:01] Dogfish44: Fairy gives us stupid moonblast
[20:01] snake_rattler: poison / fairy
[20:02] wulfanator72: No more fairies
[20:02] snake_rattler: sludge bomb and moonblast
[20:02] snake_rattler: oml
[20:02] pip: o yes i like
[20:02] quziel: I really love the idea of a normal type here though
[20:02] phosphunosaurus: Normal/Poison
[20:02] Divinity: rip psychic ban
[20:02] quziel: just seems really good for the concept
[20:02] Jho: tryna make more mons
[20:02] phosphunosaurus: Crush claw+pfang
[20:02] Jho: walled by pex
[20:02] Reviloja753: Normal/fairy as well
[20:02] Divinity: the lati moves wouldve been fun
[20:02] quziel: thanks to all of normal's cool moves
[20:02] Reviloja753: And normal/poison
[20:02] pip: wait bug has good secondaries
[20:02] pip: what abt bug fairy
[20:02] quziel: also sg tri attack, lord of the game
[20:02] Reviloja753: What does bug have
[20:02] phosphunosaurus: Aren't most bug moves like
[20:02] Dogfish44: Bug has... Steamroller?
[20:02] phosphunosaurus: 100% secondary
[20:02] pip: oh wait nvm
[20:02] Dogfish44: but that's just Zing Zap but weaker
[20:02] pip: :feels:
[20:02] Reviloja753: Lol
[20:02] snake_rattler: struggle bug
[20:03] phosphunosaurus: Is 100 already
[20:03] pip: it has 100% effects
[20:03] pip: lunge etc
[20:03] pip: my bad
[20:03] Jho: quiver dance
[20:03] phosphunosaurus: Same with lunge
[20:03] Reviloja753: Normal/poison or normal/fairy seem heat
[20:03] Reviloja753: Elec/Fairy is also flames
[20:03] Divinity: how does tri attack calculate the status btw
[20:03] snake_rattler: normal fairy would have a problem with split
[20:03] quziel: uh
[20:03] Dogfish44: okay but real talk what works best for Diamond Storm and 100% +Def boosting to go alongside Assault Vest ???
[20:03] quziel: I think it checks if it is gonna inflict status
[20:03] Divinity: does it individually roll or roll once and then roll which status
[20:03] Reviloja753: Split?
[20:03] quziel: then randomly chooses 1 of 3
[20:03] quziel: so like
[20:03] quziel: 40% chance for status
[20:03] pip: diamond storm sounds a bit op
[20:03] pip: lol
[20:03] phosphunosaurus: How much longer we got until we vote for typing?
[20:03] quziel: then 1/3rd chance for any of the 3
[20:03] pip: even for this
[20:03] Dogfish44: shhhh
[20:04] pip: i dont have anything else to suggest
[20:04] Jordy: discharge + moonblast serene grace
[20:04] snake_rattler: elec / poison
[20:04] Jordy: laughs in clefable
[20:04] snake_rattler: or elec / fairy
[20:04] pip: elec poison is cool
[20:04] phosphunosaurus: Plasmanta but good
[20:04] quziel: elec poison is unironically pretty cool here
[20:04] snake_rattler: for them D I S C H A R G E
[20:04] Reviloja753: Elec/poison with
[20:04] pip: i like elec poison, poison fairy, elec fairy
[20:04] phosphunosaurus: I like elec/poison
[20:04] Reviloja753: Poison and para??
[20:04] quziel: 60% chance ot either get poisoned or para
[20:04] phosphunosaurus: My vote is for plasmanta 2.0
[20:04] quziel: on switchin
[20:04] Reviloja753: Seems sorta contradictory
[20:04] pip: im leaning towards poison fairy and elec fairy cus i think those typings are stronger
20:04] Reviloja753: To have two status types
[20:04] quziel: you choose based on which move you spam
[20:04] snake_rattler: dual status is a strat
[20:05] quziel: ye
[20:05] quziel: used it many times
[20:05] Birkal: 1) electric/fairy
2) fairy/ghost
3) poison/fairy
4) normal/fairy
5) ghost/normal
6) electric/ghost
7) electric/poison
[20:05] Birkal: VOTE
[20:05] SgtMoose: normal poison for bodyslam and poison fang
[20:05] Reviloja753: Can we vote for multiple types?
[20:05] SgtMoose: yes
[20:05] SgtMoose: Normal/Ghost for Triattack + Hex
[20:05] pip: wait aa
[20:05] quziel: oh
[20:05] quziel: I didn't see 5
[20:06] pip: steel is actually really good but missed it
[20:06] SgtMoose: i think birk banned steel
[20:06] Dogfish44: birk said no steel :-(
[20:06] pip: meteor mash, iron tail, mirror shot, steel wing etc
[20:06] Birkal: I banned it
[20:06] Birkal: because I'm mean
[20:06] pip: das ok
[20:06] Birkal: gotta make cuts somewhere
[20:06] Divinity: elec ghost is heat
[20:06] Divinity: discharge -> hex
[20:06] Divinity: ez
[20:06] quziel: no normal/poison
[20:06] quziel: rip
[20:07] snake_rattler: birk bans steel:
YouTube
Emily the Griffin
LOST? FRIGHTENED? CONFUSED?
[20:07] Jho: cursed video
[20:07] Jho: u keep sending me this
[20:07] Reviloja753: So I guess Poison/Fairy wins???
[20:07] pip: its been 30 secs w8
[20:07] Reviloja753: Ok ok
[20:08] snake_rattler: poison fairy is walled by pex
[20:08] Dogfish44: :stopwatch:
[20:08] snake_rattler: nooooo
[20:08] snake_rattler: vote electric
[20:08] Divinity: elec ghost is the wave
20:08] Dogfish44: Ghost/Elec pls
[20:08] Mr. Preserve: whats going on
[20:08] Mr. Preserve: flashcap hours?!
[20:08] pip: no cus we gunna have elec coverage
[20:08] phosphunosaurus: yeehaw :cowboy:
[20:08] snake_rattler: some elecs can barely break pex LOL
[20:08] quziel: vote ghost/elec
[20:08] SgtMoose: rip triattack hex
[20:08] quziel: leggo megarotom
[20:08] Mr. Preserve: what we got so far
[20:09] pip: but elec ghost has no switchins in the meta :frowning:
[20:09] quziel: serene grace
[20:09] snake_rattler: elec fairy
[20:09] pip: i mean no switchin opportunites
[20:09] quziel: ability actualization
[20:09] Mr. Preserve: serene grace?
[20:09] Mr. Preserve: electric. definitely
[20:09] Mr. Preserve: electric/ice
[20:09] snake_rattler: runoff imo
[20:09] Reviloja753: Votings already started
[20:09] Divinity: scroll up for type vote btw
[20:09] quziel: check up for the options]
[20:09] Mr. Preserve: wheres my 20% freeze chance
[20:09] pip: this is fun
[20:09] pip: lets do all the caps like this
[20:09] quziel: with normal/ghost
[20:09] Dogfish44: Gotta go Secret Power for them 60% freezes
[20:09] pip: its same result as threads
[20:09] quziel: SG tri attack leggo
[20:10] Reviloja753: When we’re done we have to put it on the cap kitchen thread
[20:10] Reviloja753: Please
[20:10] Dogfish44: ofc ofc
[20:10] Reviloja753: Good
[20:10] Birkal: 1) POISON / FAIRY
2) ELECTRIC / GHOST
3) ELECTRIC / POISON
[20:10] Birkal: FINAL ROUND
[20:10] quziel: one vote only I assume?
[20:10] pip: we dont need 2nd round votes cus u can multivote btw
[20:10] pip: but okey
20:10] phosphunosaurus: Come on poison fairy it's he only one I have an existing sketch for
[20:10] snake_rattler: elec poison reeeeeeeee
[20:10] Dogfish44: good news folks
[20:10] phosphunosaurus: shid
[20:10] Dogfish44: we managed to get
[20:10] SgtMoose: smh you dont need sketches in flashcap
[20:11] Dogfish44: the reactions in order
[20:11] Dogfish44: !!!
[20:11] SgtMoose: that aint the spirit of flashcap
[20:11] Mr. Preserve: votes everything besides elec/ghost
[20:11] pip: lol are we gunna have an art round too?
[20:11] phosphunosaurus: rip the flamingo dream
[20:11] SgtMoose: of course we have art
[20:11] snake_rattler: what's electric / ghost gonna do
[20:11] Divinity: hec
[20:11] Divinity: hex
[20:11] pip: i offered to draw it but it would b fun to do a vote as well
[20:11] quziel: spam discharge into hex
[20:11] Reviloja753: Thunder and hex
[20:11] snake_rattler: oh
[20:11] Reviloja753: Or Shadow Ball
[20:11] snake_rattler: that exists
[20:11] pip: hex is a nice sell
[20:11] Birkal: ELECTRIC / GHOST WINS