Look, this is becoming a rehash of every single Ho-oh is/isn't Uber thread that has ever come up.
The "Ho-Oh should be tested" people this Stealth Rock weak is the single greatest factor about Ho-oh, all of its insane strengths be damned, that SINGLE weakness is enough to bring it down.
Also for your calcs Vs. Hariyama, don't forget Burn adds 6% when you factor in Leftovers, 12% on non-Leftovers.
Here's a LO Ho-Oh with 160/80 Atk/SA EVs.
Turn 1:
Ho-oh used Sacred Fire. 252/252 HP/Def Suicune switched in.
Suicune took 18-21% damage.
Ho-oh Used Thunderbolt! Bulky Water loses 46-54% HP (62-75% total) Bulky Water used Toxic!
Yeah, Ho-oh has big problems with bulky waters... What with his 2HKO them with LO Thunderbolt and all, totally legitimate on a more sweeperish set.
So yeah, it beats Ho-oh "99% of the time" as long as that Ho-oh set isn't packing a boosted Thunderbolt via an item or Calm Mind. And you don't take a critical hit.
And the reason Ho-oh depletes Stone Edge's PP is PRESSURE. Your whole post was essentially an ill-conceived troll that showed no knowledge of Ho-oh. Great job.
The "Ho-Oh should be tested" people this Stealth Rock weak is the single greatest factor about Ho-oh, all of its insane strengths be damned, that SINGLE weakness is enough to bring it down.
Also for your calcs Vs. Hariyama, don't forget Burn adds 6% when you factor in Leftovers, 12% on non-Leftovers.
Deck Knight in particular, you have never discredited the toxic bulky water argument. This would kill Ho-oh 99% of the time. Sacred Fire is good, but 8 pp and only (lol only) 50% chance make it and iffy move to begin with.
You make it sound like sacred fire is a 200 bp 45 pp move with 100% chance to burn. Your argument is easily applied to sacred fire. "Just add protect" and the pp of sacred fire is depleted.
Here's a LO Ho-Oh with 160/80 Atk/SA EVs.
Turn 1:
Ho-oh used Sacred Fire. 252/252 HP/Def Suicune switched in.
Suicune took 18-21% damage.
Ho-oh Used Thunderbolt! Bulky Water loses 46-54% HP (62-75% total) Bulky Water used Toxic!
Yeah, Ho-oh has big problems with bulky waters... What with his 2HKO them with LO Thunderbolt and all, totally legitimate on a more sweeperish set.
So yeah, it beats Ho-oh "99% of the time" as long as that Ho-oh set isn't packing a boosted Thunderbolt via an item or Calm Mind. And you don't take a critical hit.
And the reason Ho-oh depletes Stone Edge's PP is PRESSURE. Your whole post was essentially an ill-conceived troll that showed no knowledge of Ho-oh. Great job.