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League of Legends: Let's Talk About uhhh??
- Thread starter Thorns
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I actually meant in ranked, against say shen or something yes Nasus will absolutely get raped, but nasus can actually farm against most standard solo tops, even against super strong early laners like riven. My win percentage with Nasus is only 59% but half of my losses were DC's and I shouldnt have been playing ranked at that time. Nasus can absolutely carry and wither can shut down the other team's AD ranged champ, but of course yea if you cant farm on a champ that needs farm then no you probably can't carry with them
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueofleg...le_of_two_carries_the_final_countdown_part_1/
last sequence will be out 2mrw.
last sequence will be out 2mrw.
So, I recently got a new computer with Windows 7 (everyone insists it's better than XP blah blah blah). Anyways, where can I safely download this game for a Windows 7 computer??
If you managed not to get counter picked and are able to farm correctly then sure you'll be able to carry. The only problem is that you're going to be very team dependent for awhile and the meta is very snowbally right now.
How do you beat TF in lane?
I'm serious, I lose to every single Twisted Fate in every lane, whether he's AP or AD, I can NEVER beat him.
EDIT: @Obbmud99: 5 support or double jungle is always fun.
I'm serious, I lose to every single Twisted Fate in every lane, whether he's AP or AD, I can NEVER beat him.
EDIT: @Obbmud99: 5 support or double jungle is always fun.
TF is beaten in lane by characters who can dodge his skill shots and pump out consistent damage.
Cass, Ahri, Ryze, Karthus
Outside of his Stun + wild card combo he doesn't have much damage, so a straight up engage is where you will win. Alternatively, allow him to whittle you down and he will surely destroy you.
Being able to keep up with his map presence is important, TF is usually picked to screw with your other lanes because of his ultimate. He's very good at punishing mistakes.
AD TF is significantly worse than just about any other AD carry in the game, just smack him in the face instead of trading blows. (Unless you are Graves or Ez)
I've never had problems with TF. Nor do I like playing him. I don't see the killing potential in lane, the stun has far too little range.
Nonetheless, I would watch out for TF. He is one of the strongest mids in the game right now, his map control is almost unrivaled.
Perhaps you have yet to play against a good one.
The meta isn't going anywhere until they change lane gold/exp. There might be slight shifts with which champs are strongest but the 0cs support isn't going anywhere. Ranged AD will always be king because range is to LoL what speed is to Pokémon.
Dual mid with Promote and Smite for ultimate lane control.
It seems like the kind of thing you'd do
Fun fact: only duo mid normal game I've played, we won our lane so hard and outlevelled the Mordekaiser, I don't think it was supposed to play out like that lol poor guy didn't know what to do
Tales from my ranked matches continued. I haven't played ranked for a while because I hate it, but I played a game today and realized I hadn't posted my logs for a while, so all of these apart from the Corki game are from over a month ago.
Old posts are here:
http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4126972#post4126972
http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4147886#post4147886
Continued:
Match 10: Graves (Bot)
Some retarded champ picks. Heal, Exhaust Udyr is my support... Oh no, apparently Udyr and Lee Sin are going double bruiser bot, neither with flash, and I'm against Wukong top with Graves...
I actually win my lane but press tab to see 1-7 Cass and bottom lane has predictably also been stomped. What can I do...
Defeat: 1-4-0
Match 11: Shyvana (Top)
Defeat: 1-3-0
Match 12: Skarner (Jungle)
Clarity Annie and Twitch. Ashe and Twitch both go 0-5 in lane. I even camp it and get a double kill in their lane but they are beyond all hope. The already fed Vayne gets a quadra kill, no way I could do anything more.
Defeat: 3-3-4
Match 13: Skarner (Jungle)
Team seem pretty co-operative in champ selective. Everybody agrees on roles, no arguments. Hope this is a turnaround.
Nope! Wukong top feeds Olaf 6 kills. He becomes completely untouchable. Alistair has the right idea and tells us not to focus him because he is worse with full HP, so we should focus MF and Kennen. I do just that, Vlad, Kog and Wukong jump on Olaf repeatedly and die. At least I got a "You did good Skarner, the rest were fucking idiots." at the end.
Defeat: 4-4-12
Match 14: Graves (Bottom)
Can you believe I was 6-2 at one point? Now I've hit a brick wall of retards. Last pick wants to jungle and I can't be bothered to argue so I'm playing Graves.
I go 4-0 during laning phase. Not good enough. Soraka feeds my lane 5 kills so I'm not even winning my lane. I'm 12-0 by the end of mid game, singlehandedly take down an inhibitor. Not good enough. Soraka and Rammus stay in the enemy base and die, so they take a free baron. 8 Losses now, I am positive that there was nothing more I could have done in this match, yet I lose 40 ELO for it. Nice. Their Blitzcrank said I was the best Graves he's ever played against. I guess that's a consolation.
Defeat: 14-4-11
Match 15: Shen (Top)
0-6 Blitzcrank, Tristana Rocket Jumps into fights 1v3.
Defeat: 4-3-whatever
Match 16: Lee Sin (Jungle)
2-10 Gangplank feeds warwick, goes afk, comes back and complains.
Defeat: 4-5-4
Match 17: Skarner (Jungle)
We have 2 AP mids fighting over who is going mid. Good start. Brand eventually gives in and let's Fizz mid. Luckily I've played with this Brand before and I know he's good. He goes bot with Ashe, both end up 5-0 and the game snowballs pretty quickly. Surrender at 20. And so ends the 8 match losing streak of hell.
Victory: 1-1-3
Match 18: Skarner (Jungle)
Team is nice and chatty, they seem fairly competent in champ select. Oh never mind, they're all fucking retarded! Veigar rushes a mejai's soulstealer and goes on to die a grand total of 16 times. Ashe spends the entire game typing in full caps STOP HIT MINIONS. Warwick dies 3 times to tryndamere in lane before I can even hit level 6. Lux was just bad, and didn't "stop hit minions".
Defeat: 1-4-14
Match 19: Alistair (Support)
Really stupid match where everyone is completely retarded and I can't really have too much influence outside of team fights because I have no damage. Luckily I do rape their only competent player - Caitlyn - in every team fight by smashing the shit out of her and exhausting Lee Sin. I don't want to play support at this level when the Graves in my lane is auto attacking the wave right up to the tower and then wondering why we're getting ganked so often, but I was last pick and had to.
Victory: 1-6-22
Match 20: Nocturne (Jungle)
pvp.net crashes in champ select. I wait a few minutes then close LoL and reconnect. Apparently the game has started despite me being the only person having picked my champ?
The game is already 1 minute under way and only 3 people on my team have even connected. All 5 on the other team are there though, so we get stomped into oblivion. Nice one Riot.
Defeat: 3-2-3
Match 21: Shyvana (Jungle)
One guy is sad that he has to solo top. Never seen that before, usually everyone is rushing to lock in a solo top champ.
...
Vlad feeds Fizz 7 kills and proclaims "fizz is a counter to vlad". Fizz goes fishing in every other lane and snowballs out of control. Shark attack.
Defeat: 6-8-12
Match 22: Wukong (Jungle)
Been playing a lot of Wukong lately and decided that his ganks are basically like Shacos when you use Decoy to move in, but you scale so much better and are actually useful after 10 minutes. Enemy jungle happens to be a Shaco. He goes 0-8 it's pretty embarrassing. I get an awful lot of ganks off successfully and every lane snowballs while Shaco does nothing at all.
Victory: 5-0-12
Match 23: Corki (AD Carry)
Haven't played ranked in a while but I felt like it so here we go. Champ select went fine for once, not too many complaints. Warwick and Udyr are assholes to each other for the entire game, then start being assholes to me for getting 3 man ganked at my tower. Apparently they didn't check my score before they started raging because I was 8-1 and had the most farm in the game. My support Alistair was fantastic and I had a really easy time for most of the game thanks to him.
Victory: 17-5-8
Old posts are here:
http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4126972#post4126972
http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4147886#post4147886
Continued:
Match 10: Graves (Bot)
Some retarded champ picks. Heal, Exhaust Udyr is my support... Oh no, apparently Udyr and Lee Sin are going double bruiser bot, neither with flash, and I'm against Wukong top with Graves...
I actually win my lane but press tab to see 1-7 Cass and bottom lane has predictably also been stomped. What can I do...
Defeat: 1-4-0
Match 11: Shyvana (Top)
Defeat: 1-3-0
Match 12: Skarner (Jungle)
Clarity Annie and Twitch. Ashe and Twitch both go 0-5 in lane. I even camp it and get a double kill in their lane but they are beyond all hope. The already fed Vayne gets a quadra kill, no way I could do anything more.
Defeat: 3-3-4
Match 13: Skarner (Jungle)
Team seem pretty co-operative in champ selective. Everybody agrees on roles, no arguments. Hope this is a turnaround.
Nope! Wukong top feeds Olaf 6 kills. He becomes completely untouchable. Alistair has the right idea and tells us not to focus him because he is worse with full HP, so we should focus MF and Kennen. I do just that, Vlad, Kog and Wukong jump on Olaf repeatedly and die. At least I got a "You did good Skarner, the rest were fucking idiots." at the end.
Defeat: 4-4-12
Match 14: Graves (Bottom)
Can you believe I was 6-2 at one point? Now I've hit a brick wall of retards. Last pick wants to jungle and I can't be bothered to argue so I'm playing Graves.
I go 4-0 during laning phase. Not good enough. Soraka feeds my lane 5 kills so I'm not even winning my lane. I'm 12-0 by the end of mid game, singlehandedly take down an inhibitor. Not good enough. Soraka and Rammus stay in the enemy base and die, so they take a free baron. 8 Losses now, I am positive that there was nothing more I could have done in this match, yet I lose 40 ELO for it. Nice. Their Blitzcrank said I was the best Graves he's ever played against. I guess that's a consolation.
Defeat: 14-4-11
Match 15: Shen (Top)
0-6 Blitzcrank, Tristana Rocket Jumps into fights 1v3.
Defeat: 4-3-whatever
Match 16: Lee Sin (Jungle)
2-10 Gangplank feeds warwick, goes afk, comes back and complains.
Defeat: 4-5-4
Match 17: Skarner (Jungle)
We have 2 AP mids fighting over who is going mid. Good start. Brand eventually gives in and let's Fizz mid. Luckily I've played with this Brand before and I know he's good. He goes bot with Ashe, both end up 5-0 and the game snowballs pretty quickly. Surrender at 20. And so ends the 8 match losing streak of hell.
Victory: 1-1-3
Match 18: Skarner (Jungle)
Team is nice and chatty, they seem fairly competent in champ select. Oh never mind, they're all fucking retarded! Veigar rushes a mejai's soulstealer and goes on to die a grand total of 16 times. Ashe spends the entire game typing in full caps STOP HIT MINIONS. Warwick dies 3 times to tryndamere in lane before I can even hit level 6. Lux was just bad, and didn't "stop hit minions".
Defeat: 1-4-14
Match 19: Alistair (Support)
Really stupid match where everyone is completely retarded and I can't really have too much influence outside of team fights because I have no damage. Luckily I do rape their only competent player - Caitlyn - in every team fight by smashing the shit out of her and exhausting Lee Sin. I don't want to play support at this level when the Graves in my lane is auto attacking the wave right up to the tower and then wondering why we're getting ganked so often, but I was last pick and had to.
Victory: 1-6-22
Match 20: Nocturne (Jungle)
pvp.net crashes in champ select. I wait a few minutes then close LoL and reconnect. Apparently the game has started despite me being the only person having picked my champ?
The game is already 1 minute under way and only 3 people on my team have even connected. All 5 on the other team are there though, so we get stomped into oblivion. Nice one Riot.
Defeat: 3-2-3
Match 21: Shyvana (Jungle)
One guy is sad that he has to solo top. Never seen that before, usually everyone is rushing to lock in a solo top champ.
...
Vlad feeds Fizz 7 kills and proclaims "fizz is a counter to vlad". Fizz goes fishing in every other lane and snowballs out of control. Shark attack.
Defeat: 6-8-12
Match 22: Wukong (Jungle)
Been playing a lot of Wukong lately and decided that his ganks are basically like Shacos when you use Decoy to move in, but you scale so much better and are actually useful after 10 minutes. Enemy jungle happens to be a Shaco. He goes 0-8 it's pretty embarrassing. I get an awful lot of ganks off successfully and every lane snowballs while Shaco does nothing at all.
Victory: 5-0-12
Match 23: Corki (AD Carry)
Haven't played ranked in a while but I felt like it so here we go. Champ select went fine for once, not too many complaints. Warwick and Udyr are assholes to each other for the entire game, then start being assholes to me for getting 3 man ganked at my tower. Apparently they didn't check my score before they started raging because I was 8-1 and had the most farm in the game. My support Alistair was fantastic and I had a really easy time for most of the game thanks to him.
Victory: 17-5-8
I know. I'm from the MrE school of philosophy when it comes to ranked games.
Story time.
Here are my recent games with my ranked team with friends. We had three 5v5 SR matches tonight, fairly close for two of them. The matchups are getting harder...
We wrecked.
Quite funny though, since we were unsure of what to pick as our 'AD carry' and chose Urgot as a sudden whim which we found to be a strong pick.
I jungled, with my route being a quick hard leash at blue and then a roll to their red. This happened every 5 minutes, Fiora never got red once.
Teamfights were underwhelming as we Exhausted Morgana and Graves, Chogath had a retarded build and Fiora didn't know how to fight. Didn't really make mistakes which lead to a quick surrender.
Now this is where it got tricky. First of all, Jungle Singed and AD Kennen are seldom faced against and proved to be difficult champions to deal with. Second, their team comp looks to have amazing synergy, focusing on mainly AOE ultis and good hard CC to catch unguarded people and force fights.
However, there were a couple of reasons why they couldn't pull it off sucessfully....
Wukong got super fed at top during the laning phase pushing back Jarvan's build (he only really managed two important items but was too late in finishing them). Volibear always had Q up which messed up Galio badly; Galio didn't pull an ult that lasted longer than 1 second. The last and major reason was that Jarvan pulled horrible ultis, focusing his team under Wukong's and Fizz's (sometimes under turret fire) which allowed the rest of us (predominantly me) to safely attack from. Final push after a very successful ace, won.
Loss
hard hard hard hard when you consider Blitz was first pick and watching them choose picks like Malphite, Karthus, Renekton and even Janna. One important play was that they sneaked off an early baron whilst we did dragon. Was really unexpected and made us play defensive when we had the upper hand at that point. A lot of back and forth-ing happened, until 1 of us got caught out which was the pivotal point of the match. Cost us
2 inhibs which we never recovered from and after a failed force fight at our turrets it was gg. Cost us 44 elo.
Right now we are at 1124 ELO with 6 wins 2 losses.
Here are my recent games with my ranked team with friends. We had three 5v5 SR matches tonight, fairly close for two of them. The matchups are getting harder...
We wrecked.
Quite funny though, since we were unsure of what to pick as our 'AD carry' and chose Urgot as a sudden whim which we found to be a strong pick.
I jungled, with my route being a quick hard leash at blue and then a roll to their red. This happened every 5 minutes, Fiora never got red once.
Teamfights were underwhelming as we Exhausted Morgana and Graves, Chogath had a retarded build and Fiora didn't know how to fight. Didn't really make mistakes which lead to a quick surrender.
Now this is where it got tricky. First of all, Jungle Singed and AD Kennen are seldom faced against and proved to be difficult champions to deal with. Second, their team comp looks to have amazing synergy, focusing on mainly AOE ultis and good hard CC to catch unguarded people and force fights.
However, there were a couple of reasons why they couldn't pull it off sucessfully....
Wukong got super fed at top during the laning phase pushing back Jarvan's build (he only really managed two important items but was too late in finishing them). Volibear always had Q up which messed up Galio badly; Galio didn't pull an ult that lasted longer than 1 second. The last and major reason was that Jarvan pulled horrible ultis, focusing his team under Wukong's and Fizz's (sometimes under turret fire) which allowed the rest of us (predominantly me) to safely attack from. Final push after a very successful ace, won.
Loss
hard hard hard hard when you consider Blitz was first pick and watching them choose picks like Malphite, Karthus, Renekton and even Janna. One important play was that they sneaked off an early baron whilst we did dragon. Was really unexpected and made us play defensive when we had the upper hand at that point. A lot of back and forth-ing happened, until 1 of us got caught out which was the pivotal point of the match. Cost us
2 inhibs which we never recovered from and after a failed force fight at our turrets it was gg. Cost us 44 elo.
Right now we are at 1124 ELO with 6 wins 2 losses.
being the only person told to quit by someone much worse than you on a team of people much worse than you is an an interesting experience to say the least, pretty much sums up parts of this community haha. then again, all massive online games are like this so i can't complain!
also does anyone here have draven? I'm really tempted to buy him but i don't want to splash out real money without anybody elses thoughts
also does anyone here have draven? I'm really tempted to buy him but i don't want to splash out real money without anybody elses thoughts
Draven is strong, you just have to play him correctly. Which is a lot easier said than done. He's basically one of the highest skill cap champions in the game right now (I think he is the highest) so it'll take quite a bit of finesse to master him. (Juggling two blades is a pain in the ass)
Basically, use your blades to reset your W (which you should be maxing first). That's what sets him apart from other AD carries and allows him to do more damage, you should have your W going for the entirety of any fight.
He gets countered by Assassins and lanes such as Graves + Taric, so watch out for those.
Basically, use your blades to reset your W (which you should be maxing first). That's what sets him apart from other AD carries and allows him to do more damage, you should have your W going for the entirety of any fight.
He gets countered by Assassins and lanes such as Graves + Taric, so watch out for those.