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League of Legends: Let's Talk About uhhh??
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I think the Soraka changes were good. Of course, it also basically nullifies the viability of Soraka as a mid or top solo lane counter-pick.
Actually rather like Nautilus and his kit. His Q seems really fun. Amumu was my soulmate back in season one and I was amazing at landing his Q, so I might consider buying Nautilus.
Actually rather like Nautilus and his kit. His Q seems really fun. Amumu was my soulmate back in season one and I was amazing at landing his Q, so I might consider buying Nautilus.
nunu has super-smite but i personally don't like him as a counter-jungler because his invades were much stronger in the old jungle
now you can steal camps but so can mundo/shyvana/udyr/skarner and they can do it 1000x better since they can also manage to kill the enemy jungler
idk how to build him. idk if you're supposed to wriggle's on him now with his new attack speed or if you're supposed to build AP like before or if you just want to go tanky support i.e. shurelya's etc.
That's really gonna depend on the mana cost reduction to Starcall, which could make her much better late game if it's enough that she doesn't have to rely on Tear.
Okay. OKAY. So, listen. If you fucking rush into the enemy and die immediately, stop fucking doing it. Do NOT think you are hot shit because you use AP Yi and know how to Alpha Strike at the end of fights. If you don't use Meditate once you get focused, you are bad. If I lead the pack, it might be because I have better "initiation" than Udyr, it might be because I have Zhonya's, GA, and 4k health, and it MIGHT be because I can rush in, get kills, and pool out. Do NOT flail around uselessly when Vlad uses his ult.
And oh my fucking God people need to fucking learn how to fucking use fucking Vayne. Or AD carries in general. I am sick and tired of playing ranked matches where kids act like it's normals. You know what I'd like? Fun, clean, good-natured matches. Not teammates who try to talk down to me when I'm leading in kills (I was, but Yi Q'd away at the end of some fights), and in common sense (because I admit, kda's are a stupid way to measure things). VAYNE DOES NOT NEED A STINGER. She needs oh, idk, a Phantom Dancer maybe? It's like holy shit, the enemy team all bought health-boosting items, and their GP has armor and 2 Warmog's? Seems like a good time to suck at everything ever.
And now I head down further into the ELO pit. No, ELO means nothing as far as status goes, but it DOES mean the matches will be even fucking stupider. Holy shit. FUCK.
/rage rant
Why waste flash just because he ulted? Get a Quiksilver Sash and make him look like an idiot who can only wildly flail his arms at you.
I have a feeling Soraka may have just been nerfed to the ground. I'm not positive, as I don't play Soraka often, but that kind of change seems like one of those changes that people really underestimate.
As for Nautilus, I don't know. His E doesn't make me feel anything, and his Ult sounds kind of counter-intuitive to his Q (Ult the back-line, forced to Q to someone completely different...). I have a feeling he may be very clunky.
Why did the Yi say to report you, when you were the only one besides him on the team with a KD ratio > 1?
Am I missing something?
Am I missing something?
The maturity level of the LoL community is what you're missing.
It's a huge nerf to soraka. I applaud Riot for this. Currently Soraka has the skill cap of someone who's just learning to type on a keyboard. There's little to no difference between a good and bad soraka, with little to no chance of either fucking up bot lane, unless bot lane is just terrible.
With the increasing popularity of Heal/Flash of not only support players but also the AD carry, it meant having 4 heals, unlimited mana.
Meaning the positioning, skill, and teamwork required in bot was literally nonexistent, as it meant all mistakes were simply erased with little to no consequence.
He said this because during the match, he kept either not being present for teamfights, or facechecking everything and getting blown up, effectively making many fights a 4v5. When I asked him to stop, he said "shut up kid, I'm carrying this team." While he did have the most kills, he made the stupidest decisions and never learned from his mistakes. So eventually I got to the point of telling him to shut the fuck up all the time (and the one time I was ahead in kills, I REALLY told him to stfu). And he also bitched when I walked ahead of the team to soak up damage. Now, Udyr was just being Udyr; he could stun, and that's all. I stood at the front because I had 4k health, Zhonya's, GA, and Sanguine Pool; this meant I could soak damage for "Vayne" and "Master Yi". And I certainly lived, but my team got blown up all the damn time. And so apparently I'm bad for losing the game for us. It's not his poor-decision-making ass at all.
Assuming we could even have decent teamfights. :( I don't care how beefy Vlad is, I can't 1v5 that team.
oh man epik vs v8 base race too good
Sona nerfs are weird, considering a big reason she's the de facto best support is not the auras in lane (Half a Cloth Armor! A Long Sword!) but because she's the only one who can harass effectively. Q and Power Chord allow her to legitimately out-poke most other champions. Soraka does no damage, Janna doesn't sustain, Taric/Alistar are melee range.
shen buffs finally ready aww yea
shen buffs finally ready aww yea
Can we please ban BRs from this game. Got a team with 3 BRs and a noob. Went 4/1 in lane as Annie and the other team sucked. They constantly tried to gank me and failed even when Mao hit his root and Leona came up to follow up stun. Then once team fights started it got out of hand. Everyone tried to stand in the back lines and not get hit while doing absolutely zero poke damage since they were Jax, Yi, and Shaco. Eventually they would all jump on one of us and everyone would run away and let them die. And then they wouldn't surrender because they think it makes your penis fall off.
LOL. Just played a Dominion game where my team bitched at me for being annoying but we won by 275 points and I got 1st for our team. :P I had 100 CS my team had 145 including me and the enemy team had 135. You think that's the reason for the win? Do people even understand that minions give MORE gold than on SR? And that champion kills give less? I had RoA, Zhonya's, RDC, and another NLR in a 20 minute game.
LOL. Just played a Dominion game where my team bitched at me for being annoying but we won by 275 points and I got 1st for our team. :P I had 100 CS my team had 145 including me and the enemy team had 135. You think that's the reason for the win? Do people even understand that minions give MORE gold than on SR? And that champion kills give less? I had RoA, Zhonya's, RDC, and another NLR in a 20 minute game.
After looking at the patch notes, I really want to try jungle Shen using boots, Wit's End, Zeke's, maybe Ionic Spark, Frozen Mallet, maybe Atma's? I dunno, I'm really interested in seeing what Shen can do now.
those shen buffs.....
Well, now that we have the numbers and shit... besides Nautilus' package.
Wow, Sona nerf is huge. The aura nerf amounts to very little but the Power Chord hit is a massive loss to her early-game poke, she loses a good 30% damage on the first couple she's liable to hit enemy champions with. :/ That said, it was probably necessary to bring her in line with the other traditional supports. She'll still be the best laner, Janna and Soraka have no damage and Taric/Alistar are still melee, but she'll no longer be utterly dominant in this regard or be able to trade favorably with the enemy carry 1-on-1. Her late-game is untouched, her auras being a boon most champions can't compare with sans farm, not to mention her ult.
Soraka support looks dead, though. Feeding her carry mana doesn't nearly cover for her lack of personal damage output relative to Taric, Alistar or Sona and buffing that aspect won't change this. All of them can heal health, two of those three already more sustainable long-term than Soraka, and Soraka is otherwise the only support without hard CC. (Though one could argue that Infuse is a bit more generally applicable than Crescendo, Sona's CC is undoubtedly more powerful post-laning.) The only reason to pick her to begin with is the self-mana sustain, giving her much greater freedom in runes/masteries/item build than her counterparts. With that destroyed, I see no reason left to pick her. AP Soraka is mostly untouched if you like playing around with that at least. Infuse is free, so it's not like you spend much mana while laning anyway.
Alistar buff is cool, his combo is very mana-intensive in the laning phase. Another likely insignificantly but nonetheless unnecessary Ahri nerf and GP gets hit for about the 80th consecutive time. Fuck Cass and Kennen but they need tougher nerfs than those slaps on the wrist... same with Ryze.
Rammus DBC nerf looks pretty harsh to me, 30 Armor/MR is a lot. And I'm not sure why Riot hates casters but man fuck the Revolver nerf.
Oh, and jungle Shen is still going to be ass because his clear speed is still balls. Stick to top lane yo. 8) Warwick getting a surprise buff might change his fortunes, however. I think the base AS increase is rather large and will do more than the change to his passive but I suppose it doesn't matter either way. His clear time might actually be competitive again.
Wow, Sona nerf is huge. The aura nerf amounts to very little but the Power Chord hit is a massive loss to her early-game poke, she loses a good 30% damage on the first couple she's liable to hit enemy champions with. :/ That said, it was probably necessary to bring her in line with the other traditional supports. She'll still be the best laner, Janna and Soraka have no damage and Taric/Alistar are still melee, but she'll no longer be utterly dominant in this regard or be able to trade favorably with the enemy carry 1-on-1. Her late-game is untouched, her auras being a boon most champions can't compare with sans farm, not to mention her ult.
Soraka support looks dead, though. Feeding her carry mana doesn't nearly cover for her lack of personal damage output relative to Taric, Alistar or Sona and buffing that aspect won't change this. All of them can heal health, two of those three already more sustainable long-term than Soraka, and Soraka is otherwise the only support without hard CC. (Though one could argue that Infuse is a bit more generally applicable than Crescendo, Sona's CC is undoubtedly more powerful post-laning.) The only reason to pick her to begin with is the self-mana sustain, giving her much greater freedom in runes/masteries/item build than her counterparts. With that destroyed, I see no reason left to pick her. AP Soraka is mostly untouched if you like playing around with that at least. Infuse is free, so it's not like you spend much mana while laning anyway.
Alistar buff is cool, his combo is very mana-intensive in the laning phase. Another likely insignificantly but nonetheless unnecessary Ahri nerf and GP gets hit for about the 80th consecutive time. Fuck Cass and Kennen but they need tougher nerfs than those slaps on the wrist... same with Ryze.
Rammus DBC nerf looks pretty harsh to me, 30 Armor/MR is a lot. And I'm not sure why Riot hates casters but man fuck the Revolver nerf.
Oh, and jungle Shen is still going to be ass because his clear speed is still balls. Stick to top lane yo. 8) Warwick getting a surprise buff might change his fortunes, however. I think the base AS increase is rather large and will do more than the change to his passive but I suppose it doesn't matter either way. His clear time might actually be competitive again.
Lots of little nerfs to almost all the top laning champions other than Rumble(I think the ADs were already in a good place so no comment there), really excited to see how this plays out. I don't think any of the nerfs in this patch, other than maybe Soraka's, are character ruining, but it tones down a lot of the best champions(ever so slightly in most of the cases) which should open competitive choices in the lanes up a bit more. Riot has had a couple really thoughtful patches in a row: I thought last patch was one of the best balanced patches in a long time and this should add even more parity among champions. I'm cautiously pessimistic about what could be in the next patch, since they had to play this one kind of safe and avoid breaking too many characters positively or negatively because it is the Hannover patch, but pumped for now regardless.
Outside of lane, I'm a little interested in a few of the changes, though... I like the Rammus nerf since he's never felt right to me anyway so I'll take any excuse not to feel like I should play him regularly but the Shen and Warwick buffs, as well as the release of Nautilus, give me the impression I'm going to be stuck learning some new characters in the Jungle soon... I guess playing essentially only Maokai, Jarvan, and Skarner was getting old anyway.
Also pretty pumped about
General
-PVP.net will now wait for 8 seconds after a queue dodge before requeuing
-The disconnect notification will now only be shown to enemy players if a player disconnects and remains disconnected for 5 minutes. The message will continue to be shown without a delay for allied players.
Outside of lane, I'm a little interested in a few of the changes, though... I like the Rammus nerf since he's never felt right to me anyway so I'll take any excuse not to feel like I should play him regularly but the Shen and Warwick buffs, as well as the release of Nautilus, give me the impression I'm going to be stuck learning some new characters in the Jungle soon... I guess playing essentially only Maokai, Jarvan, and Skarner was getting old anyway.
Also pretty pumped about
General
-PVP.net will now wait for 8 seconds after a queue dodge before requeuing
-The disconnect notification will now only be shown to enemy players if a player disconnects and remains disconnected for 5 minutes. The message will continue to be shown without a delay for allied players.
Shen OP, will be nerfed very soon. WW will also be very good too.
The biggest "wat" thing in the patch for me is the nerf to the revolver. Not really sure why that needed nerfed. Riot hates spell vamp.
The biggest "wat" thing in the patch for me is the nerf to the revolver. Not really sure why that needed nerfed. Riot hates spell vamp.
I like the shen buffs in general just because he needed to get more play time however he will be never turely balanced with his current form of ultimate. Shen is arguablyt the only jungler in the game who can preasure top lane past the 7 min mark and not lose dragon for it. Later in the game he can go split push while top pushes the other lane and what do you do then?
Before these buffs none of this mattered because its shen who cares he did nothing. If these buffs trun shen into a decent threat his ultimate will be exposed for how game changing it really is. If shen is in the game you MUST change the entier way you think about doing objetives.
ill talk more about support changes later its hard to tell how much they change when all of them happen at once.
Before these buffs none of this mattered because its shen who cares he did nothing. If these buffs trun shen into a decent threat his ultimate will be exposed for how game changing it really is. If shen is in the game you MUST change the entier way you think about doing objetives.
ill talk more about support changes later its hard to tell how much they change when all of them happen at once.
