Okay... thanks for accepting the vote, first of all. Secondly, I agree completely with removing Diggersby, Zekrom, Mewtwo, Aegislash, Kyruem Black, Giratina, (probably) Darmanitan, Rotom-Wash, Smeargle (who attracts silly replays to boot), and Shaymin. The others, I have at least a little to say about them.
Gourgeist: Ghost/Steel is pretty good, and it comes with recovery, too. Being able to invalidate physical attackers without fire or ground coverage (and even some of them with that coverage, like Zygarde) and some special attackers is definitely worth a ranking. I feel as a B rank is giving it too much credit, though. B- seems like a good place for it.
Togekiss: Actually pretty versatile in terms of possible usable stones, and comes with both Nasty Plot and recovery. Red Orb is simply one of its better sets due to having all the tools to abuse it with. I'm not sure what rank it should end up being. Some discussion regarding this would be welcome.
Roserade: The Red Orb set is good, even having Weather Ball to use it with. But I think a combination of Venasaur and Togekiss outclass what Rosersade can do here (besides Pidgeotite Grasswhistle, which Sceptile does better), so kicking this down to C rank or lower sounds about right.
Slowking: As you said, the problem here's usage. But it's kind of like the whole Slowking in OU deal; it might be worse than Slowbro, but it has the defensive difference to set it apart from Slowbro. Though, to be fair, the main Special Attackers are Gengar and Thundurus... It does serve as a nice Keldeo check, I'll give it that. Replays of this in action would be the best for finding out how good it is...
Porygon-Z: It differentiates itself from Meloetta pretty drastically, as it has Download and Nasty Plot rather than better bulk. I have seen only one Meloetta. I have seen far more of this. This is pretty much a heavy hitter, while Meloetta has a slower and bulkier setup. I have no idea which one is actually better, though.
Goodra: As I used this once, let me speak about my experience with Camperuptite Goodra. It checks Bulky Water types very well. Including Kyogre. But its not taking many Dragon moves, many physical attacks will still sting uninvested, and it falls to Weavile and -ate speed easily. ...It's current rank is probably good. Just update the mega stone list.
Darmanitan: It also has Stone Edge and Earthquake. And Superpower. Do you care about those so much? If so, this might be a good choice. If not... Victini is far, far, superior.
Reuniclus: While that is all true, there is something that the blob has going for it: it's stronger, and really, REALLY, slow. You know what that means? Cameruptite Trick Room. Of course, Trick Room is far from flawless here, but it might be enough for it to not completely be overshadowed by Mew...?
Tomorrow, I'll nominate some of my own things.
EDIT: Lopunnite Lando-T? Yeah, that is not breaking bulky Mew any time soon. (If it's Salmancite, then we have other issues...) Also, did you just call Jellicent crap? You KNOW I'm going to try and prove you wrong, now...
Gourgeist: Ghost/Steel is pretty good, and it comes with recovery, too. Being able to invalidate physical attackers without fire or ground coverage (and even some of them with that coverage, like Zygarde) and some special attackers is definitely worth a ranking. I feel as a B rank is giving it too much credit, though. B- seems like a good place for it.
Togekiss: Actually pretty versatile in terms of possible usable stones, and comes with both Nasty Plot and recovery. Red Orb is simply one of its better sets due to having all the tools to abuse it with. I'm not sure what rank it should end up being. Some discussion regarding this would be welcome.
Roserade: The Red Orb set is good, even having Weather Ball to use it with. But I think a combination of Venasaur and Togekiss outclass what Rosersade can do here (besides Pidgeotite Grasswhistle, which Sceptile does better), so kicking this down to C rank or lower sounds about right.
Slowking: As you said, the problem here's usage. But it's kind of like the whole Slowking in OU deal; it might be worse than Slowbro, but it has the defensive difference to set it apart from Slowbro. Though, to be fair, the main Special Attackers are Gengar and Thundurus... It does serve as a nice Keldeo check, I'll give it that. Replays of this in action would be the best for finding out how good it is...
Porygon-Z: It differentiates itself from Meloetta pretty drastically, as it has Download and Nasty Plot rather than better bulk. I have seen only one Meloetta. I have seen far more of this. This is pretty much a heavy hitter, while Meloetta has a slower and bulkier setup. I have no idea which one is actually better, though.
Goodra: As I used this once, let me speak about my experience with Camperuptite Goodra. It checks Bulky Water types very well. Including Kyogre. But its not taking many Dragon moves, many physical attacks will still sting uninvested, and it falls to Weavile and -ate speed easily. ...It's current rank is probably good. Just update the mega stone list.
Darmanitan: It also has Stone Edge and Earthquake. And Superpower. Do you care about those so much? If so, this might be a good choice. If not... Victini is far, far, superior.
Reuniclus: While that is all true, there is something that the blob has going for it: it's stronger, and really, REALLY, slow. You know what that means? Cameruptite Trick Room. Of course, Trick Room is far from flawless here, but it might be enough for it to not completely be overshadowed by Mew...?
Tomorrow, I'll nominate some of my own things.
EDIT: Lopunnite Lando-T? Yeah, that is not breaking bulky Mew any time soon. (If it's Salmancite, then we have other issues...) Also, did you just call Jellicent crap? You KNOW I'm going to try and prove you wrong, now...
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