No. Fuck you.
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No. Fuck you.
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Theo could not have predicted that Crawford would be awful this year. his performances in the past warranted the contract. Theo also could not have forseen injuries to basically the entire Sox pitching staff. the signing of Lackey was bad, but no worse than Burnett and the Sox can easily absorb that kind of money. what hurt him the most were trades for the likes of Gonzalez, which stripped the farm of ML ready talent in case of a situation like the Sox faced in September, when every pitcher was not pitching well and the bullpen was a mess. of course, they got Adrian Gonzalez and his 6.4 fWAR this year and for many years to come. I'd say they'd do that trade again if they could.
they have home grown talent Ellsbury, Pedroia, Lester, Papelbon, Bard, Youkilis, A-Gone (gotten with home grown talent)...you're telling me they shouldn't be flexing any of their massive revenue advantage over 99% of teams? they are not really getting old, either. Ellsbury, Pedroia, Lester, and Bard are all still well under 30.
the Sox just ran into a perfect storm of bad luck. Theo is a fine GM.
Theo could not have predicted that Crawford would be awful this year. his performances in the past warranted the contract. Theo also could not have forseen injuries to basically the entire Sox pitching staff. the signing of Lackey was bad, but no worse than Burnett and the Sox can easily absorb that kind of money. what hurt him the most were trades for the likes of Gonzalez, which stripped the farm of ML ready talent in case of a situation like the Sox faced in September, when every pitcher was not pitching well and the bullpen was a mess. of course, they got Adrian Gonzalez and his 6.4 fWAR this year and for many years to come. I'd say they'd do that trade again if they could.
they have home grown talent Ellsbury, Pedroia, Lester, Papelbon, Bard, Youkilis, A-Gone (gotten with home grown talent)...you're telling me they shouldn't be flexing any of their massive revenue advantage over 99% of teams? they are not really getting old, either. Ellsbury, Pedroia, Lester, and Bard are all still well under 30.
the Sox just ran into a perfect storm of bad luck. Theo is a fine GM.
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you have to admit however, a really big part of 27WS is the outspending.
you have to admit however, a really big part of 27WS is the outspending.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWaoZvWu6As I'll admit I chuckled even though it wasn't super clever haha.
My prediction is Rangers in 3, Yanks in 4.
i'll be surprised if this happens
I appreciate your support for us, but we got fucking stomped
Crap.... bug off rain... Now I don't know who has the advantage anymore... I sorta wanna say Tigers now that CC probably has to pitch in CoPa, which has never been a friendly place for him. Scherzer pitching in YS scares me though... The Tigers had to outslug the Yanks and beat up Phil Hughes to win that game... Oddly enough though, Scherzer pitched against Garcia and that was the game Max shutout the Yanks...
Even talking home grown talent, one needs to keep in mind that the payroll discrepancy is a reason they also keep all those players. Cut their payroll by 1/3 (and they'd still have a top five payroll) and they might not be able to keep all three of Jeter and Mo and Pettitte. Other teams would have more opportunity to put better offers on the table, likely taking away at least some of their talent.They certainly aren't also able to buy out A-Rod, bring in Tex, continue holding onto Cano or whatever other various things that all take or will take a lot of $$$.
a salary cap does not make other teams richer. The Rays or As or Indians or Reds or whomever cannot afford half of what Alex Rodgriguez makes in his contract without hamstringing the rest of their budget. in the end, the players will just be penalized because once the big market teams can no longer spend money, the smaller market teams won't magically have more money to make a fair offer. all of this while the owners get richer and hoard even more money. sound familiar?
in addition, a massive revenue advantage is a massive revenue advantage. if you start salary capping teams, then the smart teams will just reinvest the money into international scouting and drafting and STILL be better off the than the poor teams. better to keep the system the way it is; smart teams like Tampa Bay have learned to exploit inefficiencies in the draft.
A salary cap makes other teams relatively richer because then the Yankees can't just go and be like sup we'll offer you one BILLION dollars, making the crappy small-market offer of $60mil/5yr or whatever look like garbage. Money not spent by small-market teams is also not necessarily because they don't have it and they could also implement a floor if they really felt like lack of spending was a problem.
MLB is pretty fucking antiquated in many regards anyway and the lack of a salary cap is one of the major offenders.
MLB is pretty fucking antiquated in many regards anyway and the lack of a salary cap is one of the major offenders.
Did you even read aamto's post? It actually makes a lot of sense. The small market teams aren't going to have more money than they have now and the cap would be set above what they're already spending. The small market teams then would have to do one of the following: spend more money (which they could do now, but they don't), or continue the way they are now and turn the system into basically hamstringing the larger markets from using their full assets. As much as you want to say the system is flawed, the alternative of a salary cap isn't much better.
if a team could spend money, they would (unless that team is the Marlins, who are scumbags). teams like the Rays and As do not draw fans to their ballpark nor do they have their own cable networks. they just don't have the money to compete in even a hamstrung FA market. you can set the cap to $100M and these teams still wouldn't spend more than $50M. a salary cap would still not fix the payroll disparity between large market and small market.
all a salary cap would do is make the Yankees/Red Sox/Phillies/etc divert more money into draft spending and international scouting/facilities. there is no way to stop a massive revenue advantage if an owner wants to flex it. a salary FLOOR would also be an awful idea. are you going to force the rebuilding Pirates or Orioles to spend big dollars on a veteran FA because "they have to?"
also, MLB doesn't need anymore rules. contrary to what you believe, there is more parity there then there is in every other sport. sure the Yankees make it every year, but there is turnover in every other division. the system is not perfectly fair but nothing is. the alternatives are even worse.
All this Red Sox hating is making me sick to my stomach. And most of it is sheer BS to begin with...
There's been no talk of Red Sox hating recently here, so I'm not sure what you're getting at. Unless you mean outside of the forum, in which case ok.
As for getting pissed over people hating your team, I've seen plenty of hatred coming forth from you for teams ending in -ankees. It's a part of the game, deal with it.
What are you talking about we still have Ogando, he just came out of the pen this series.
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