@ bwebber
Deal. Now according to your own rule, shut up.
It's not so much the Angels are the better team. I agree, Texas is head and shoulders better. However, the glaring stat is the Angels sitting behind 2 1/2 (more than likely three at the end of the night i made this post) games AND will host Texas in their final series. If the LAA are back 2 games or less in the final stretch, then all they have to do is take 2 out of 3 in that final series- a VERY fathomable outcome considering pitching has the advantage over hitting.
No, my point was that Verlander could handle the Yanks and BoSox, ButteredToast argued we'd be lucky to get six innings from him. I posted his performances against the three big boys. Now, where does CJ Wilson fit into all of this? He doesn't. It was a good point, but very misplaced. Even if placed in the right argument, I still had a response (but I'm not going to make it, since that's not what we're arguing here.)
BT: CJ Wilson murders Yankees, Verlander can't do it.
J: *notes Verlander is best pitcher in league this year* Oh, so does CJ have an advantage against other pitchers that are better than him.
BT: Yes
J: *was an idiot and didn't mention it in his last post* O rly? Mind you Good Aces like the others mentioned handle any lineup
BT: Sarcasm
J: Ok, so you do admit that the best in the league can handle any lineup.
If you're gonna be a butt, know what crap is coming out of your mouth before you try and slam me please.
BT: Can Tigs get from SP to Valverde?
J: Sure, we have such and such. I'm sure we're capable.
BT: WE GOT BETTER RP!!!!!!
AGAIN, I ASK YOU, HOW DOES ONE BULLPEN BEING SUPPOSEDLY BETTER THAN ANOTHER ONE HAVE ANY WEIGHT AGAINST THAT BULLPEN'S ABILITY TO REACH IT'S CLOSER?!
I'm not even gonna wait for your ridiculous answer. I'll answer it myself. The truth is, IT DOESN'T. to take a quote from you, once again, it seems that you have the inability to actually remember what takes place in a discussion and retort. YOUR Very short term memory is very short term.
Deal. Now according to your own rule, shut up.
It's not so much the Angels are the better team. I agree, Texas is head and shoulders better. However, the glaring stat is the Angels sitting behind 2 1/2 (more than likely three at the end of the night i made this post) games AND will host Texas in their final series. If the LAA are back 2 games or less in the final stretch, then all they have to do is take 2 out of 3 in that final series- a VERY fathomable outcome considering pitching has the advantage over hitting.
3 kind of lies. Lies, damned lies, and statistics. Valverde has paced himself ALL YEAR. His fastball to splitter ratio, in lay mans terms because i'm too lazy to look it up, is a landslide in favor of the fastball. He's just broken splitter out now. I will not be surprised if he starts mowing down opps in the 9th.
You haven't even started and you're already way behind. No, this stemmed from butteredtoast. I made a small reply to you right under your post I believe, did you see it?
No, my point was that Verlander could handle the Yanks and BoSox, ButteredToast argued we'd be lucky to get six innings from him. I posted his performances against the three big boys. Now, where does CJ Wilson fit into all of this? He doesn't. It was a good point, but very misplaced. Even if placed in the right argument, I still had a response (but I'm not going to make it, since that's not what we're arguing here.)
Already addressed this above. There was the CJ Wilson vs Verlander argument, and it splintered into a "Verlander can't take the BoSox and Yanks, he'd be lucky to get what he does now". I retorted with Verlander's performances against the two teams in order to demonstrate that he could. Again, i ask: how can pitcher B's success against Team C be an argument to demonstrate that Pitcher A can't be efficient against the same team? We're talking about one pitcher in this instant, not one pitcher vs another. It was a red herring that was unwittingly formed (And i would guess unbeknownst to ButteredToast) and you fell for it. Now in the case for Verlander v Wilson, the flow went like this:
BT: CJ Wilson murders Yankees, Verlander can't do it.
J: *notes Verlander is best pitcher in league this year* Oh, so does CJ have an advantage against other pitchers that are better than him.
BT: Yes
J: *was an idiot and didn't mention it in his last post* O rly? Mind you Good Aces like the others mentioned handle any lineup
BT: Sarcasm
J: Ok, so you do admit that the best in the league can handle any lineup.
If you're gonna be a butt, know what crap is coming out of your mouth before you try and slam me please.
You have no investment in this debate, as I've stated before. I responded to your post. If you want, i can make a more in depth response if you like, but for now stop acting like you have a part of this.
Discussion =/= a logical point against the talent of the Tigers bullpen
Geeze, you act as if i'm dumb. Look at what you're saying! Let's go through the flow of this debate. It seems you have absolutely NO IDEA of what the logical flow of this particular point was. Strange, as you were the one accusing me of this.
BT: Can Tigs get from SP to Valverde?
J: Sure, we have such and such. I'm sure we're capable.
BT: WE GOT BETTER RP!!!!!!
AGAIN, I ASK YOU, HOW DOES ONE BULLPEN BEING SUPPOSEDLY BETTER THAN ANOTHER ONE HAVE ANY WEIGHT AGAINST THAT BULLPEN'S ABILITY TO REACH IT'S CLOSER?!
I'm not even gonna wait for your ridiculous answer. I'll answer it myself. The truth is, IT DOESN'T. to take a quote from you, once again, it seems that you have the inability to actually remember what takes place in a discussion and retort. YOUR Very short term memory is very short term.
I mentioned Texas having to deal with the LA Angels in a response to a point I had a hard time understanding because it was terribly written. I figured ButteredToast was trying to say something on the lines of the Rangers having HF advantage and responded with the fact of the Tigers recent Total War against its opponents and the fact the Rangers have to deal with the Angels, which would make it seem delusional to think the Rangers are going to get home field advantage. I'm up for reinterpretation and am willing to admit i was wrong to state what i stated there. The Angels being a better playoff team than the Tigers though was a totally irrelevant point because I'm not talking about the Angels.
Once again, you prove to me you have no idea what you're talking about.
