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I was at Nashville too...
Some guy totally obliterated me with his Heatran, Gengar, and Uxie... I didn't even get to see his 4th PKMN... ;_;

Wait... That was the guy who got to the final round... wasn't he? I can't remember if he nicknamed his PKMN or not.

'Nother edit: Just checked... the guy who owned me was Despair. Appropriate name.
 
What exactly is the Swiss elimination style?

Is it with the preliminary round-robin group rounds, or double-elimination, or something else?
 
I'm pretty sure it's a tournament where like records go against each other.

Example: 128 people start at 0-0, 64 win, 64 lose. The 64 that won would go against each other and so would the 64 that lost. After that round, 64 people would have 1 win and 1 loss, they would go against each other, and this continues until you have one person at each record, or until you get your top 3 people without anyone else at their record. I hope tthat made sense. D:
 
I was at Nashville too...
Some guy totally obliterated me with his Heatran, Gengar, and Uxie... I didn't even get to see his 4th PKMN... ;_;

I'm sorry...

I'm not trying to be mean, but I JUST HAVE TO ASK!!!!

You weren't the guy who used Toxic on some guy's Heatran in the 1st round were you? That was amazing! ;)
 
I returned from Berlin today. I lost after going top 16 by a tokio hotel-like guy who stalled drug_duck with cresselia... well better than nothing

ironically i was the one who beated the aerodactyl + dugtrio guy lol
 
What exactly is the Swiss elimination style?

Is it with the preliminary round-robin group rounds, or double-elimination, or something else?

According to the vgc site:

"... Players in each age division will be divided into four flights, and randomly paired within their flight for the first round of play. After each round players will be paired with another opponent within his or her flight, who has a similar record. After the final Swiss round the top four competitors in each flight will move on to the Single Elimination portion of the event."

I don't know if that explains it well enough.
 
According to the vgc site:

"... Players in each age division will be divided into four flights, and randomly paired within their flight for the first round of play. After each round players will be paired with another opponent within his or her flight, who has a similar record. After the final Swiss round the top four competitors in each flight will move on to the Single Elimination portion of the event."

I don't know if that explains it well enough.

I think its saying they will get all 128 competitors and split them into 4 groups. Then the 4 groups go into different sections of the area. They have a couple rounds where you lose or win. When you lose or win you go up against another person with similar records. After its done they will see who the top 4 battlers of each group are and they will make it to the top 16 and will be going to World's! The top 16 is just single elimination but if you get that far I don't think you should care anymore. But if you really want some prizes then get top 2 and you get a custom DSi :D
 
Question for experience TR users...

I'm trying another idea for a sweepers team and am considering 2 technicians as backups in case of TR (I know weird idea)

What is a competitive speed for a TR worthy Scizor and Hitmontop?

With 0 Spd IVs or EVs and a Brave Nature they will be at 63 and 67 Respectively at L 50. Do I need to use a Macho Brace or something to beat other TR pokes with Bullet Punch or can I still Band and orb them? I'm probably going to just stick with Technician Max ATTAck Bullet Punch and Mach Punch, but with TR in play I know they've got to be uber slow, I just don't know what's competitive and what's not.
 
i'm glad to see some old vets taking spots to rep smogon!
congrats ipl and fatum.
omegadonut came with one of the most original teams though imo, and played a real good match.
 
I'm trying another idea for a sweepers team and am considering 2 technicians as backups in case of TR (I know weird idea)

What is a competitive speed for a TR worthy Scizor and Hitmontop?

With 0 Spd IVs or EVs and a Brave Nature they will be at 63 and 67 Respectively at L 50. Do I need to use a Macho Brace or something to beat other TR pokes with Bullet Punch or can I still Band and orb them? I'm probably going to just stick with Technician Max ATTAck Bullet Punch and Mach Punch, but with TR in play I know they've got to be uber slow, I just don't know what's competitive and what's not.

Considering that you will be using mostly priority moves (BP and Mach Punch), and very few TR pokemon use priority moves, you really don't need to worry about giving them any items to slow them down even more. The only priority moves used by TR pokemon are usually Bullet Punch or Shadow Sneak, neither of which your two (Scizor and Hitmontop) need to be worried about.
 
What are your opinions on a Gravity team? Im considering making one for the 2010 VGC(which has already been "leaked"), leading with Focus Sash Blissey(Crazy, but then it wont survive explosion), and Life Orb Clefable. Plus, evasion is lowered by 2 on every pokemon, making hypnosis an option. What do you guys and girls think?
 
Considering that you will be using mostly priority moves (BP and Mach Punch), and very few TR pokemon use priority moves, you really don't need to worry about giving them any items to slow them down even more. The only priority moves used by TR pokemon are usually Bullet Punch or Shadow Sneak, neither of which your two (Scizor and Hitmontop) need to be worried about.

Thank you veeeeeeery much for replying. I sincerely apreciate your expert advice.

That's kind of what I thought and kind of what I've seen and read, but I needed someone with much more experience like yourself to confirm it. If I can just make it a priority war I don't really think you can beat a banded Max Atk Technician Scizor. Orbed Hitmontop is only good also because he has 4 flavors of priority moves to choose from.

Do you think there would be any problem with a Brave (-SPD +ATK) 0 SPd IV Scizor (like 63 or something). I don't know if that would "out speed" (if you can call it that) the average TR poke with TR in play, but maybe. THat's kind of my goal.

Once again. Thank you for your great advice
 
Thank you veeeeeeery much for replying. I sincerely apreciate your expert advice.

That's kind of what I thought and kind of what I've seen and read, but I needed someone with much more experience like yourself to confirm it. If I can just make it a priority war I don't really think you can beat a banded Max Atk Technician Scizor. Orbed Hitmontop is only good also because he has 4 flavors of priority moves to choose from.

Do you think there would be any problem with a Brave (-SPD +ATK) 0 SPd IV Scizor (like 63 or something). I don't know if that would "out speed" (if you can call it that) the average TR poke with TR in play, but maybe. THat's kind of my goal.

Once again. Thank you for your great advice

Yeah, no problem. Scizor's base speed is 65, which is lower than everything that I have seen used except Glaceon (tie), Lapras/Magnezone/Swampert/Empoleon/Clefable/Abomasnow (60), Machamp/Blissey (55), Azumarrill (50), Dusknoir (45), Rhyperior (40), Quagsire (35), Bronzong (33), Snorlax (30), and Shuckle (5). All of these pokemon would probably have 0 speed iv and -nature as well, so they would "out speed" you in TR unless you used a priority move. Of those pokemon, Snorlax is probably your biggest threat (due to Fire Punch), but some of the others could hurt you fairly bad as well.
 
Yeah, no problem. Scizor's base speed is 65, which is lower than everything that I have seen used except Glaceon (tie), Lapras/Magnezone/Swampert/Empoleon/Clefable/Abomasnow (60), Machamp/Blissey (55), Azumarrill (50), Dusknoir (45), Rhyperior (40), Quagsire (35), Bronzong (33), Snorlax (30), and Shuckle (5). All of these pokemon would probably have 0 speed iv and -nature as well, so they would "out speed" you in TR unless you used a priority move. Of those pokemon, Snorlax is probably your biggest threat (due to Fire Punch), but some of the others could hurt you fairly bad as well.

Thank you. Wonderful, well thought out advice as always!
 
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