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Roz said:
I agree with you and I think those images are likely to be the true starters' evolutions. When the sketch with the Anime size of characters/Pokemon was leaked, there were 2 Pokemon that looked like Mijumaru and Tutarja. The sketch was proven to be true and those 2 'mons look exactly like the second evolution of Tutarja and Mijumaru.I personally think that's it, although I hope the guy'd be wrong with Pokabu's evolutions, they really are ugly.
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Them being drawn from said sketches isn't a possibility here?

The Mijamaru 2 stage => 3 stage complete design change looks just a tad too farfetched for me.
 
I really hope they're not fake, because even though Pokabu's evolution gave me a laughing fit, the other two are some of the most epic Pokemon I've ever seen. o_O
 
domeface said:
Hang on a minute... surely, Explosion's fainting is considered a secondary effect, right? Imagine Encourage STAB Explosion. Okay, Wargle probably won't get it, but if it did... and Encourage's boost was based on the % chance (ie, 100% for Explosion), then that would give it, *does calculation* 1500 Effective Base Power. Drool...
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Factor in STAB and Explosion's defense halving, and that becomes, er, 4500. Something tells me it won't be getting Explosion...
 
Smugleaf's final evo looks interesting, so does Wotter's (but it kinda looks Digimonish to me ?_?) and I agree with some people here that say Fireporky's evos looks weird.
 
Nestle said:
I hope those evolution pics are real. Except for the Otter's final. -_-
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Me too. taht isn' t even an otter. Is something like a blue horse with moustache (Remoraid to Octillery is strange, but that...). Smugleaf's possible third stage is absolutely epic. And I'm sure that I've seen Pokabu's evo somewhere.
 
DDRMaster said:
And I find it odd that they have overworld sprites for all the Pokemon so you can see them in the daycare but they appear to not be able to follow you.
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If I do buy B/W, that's one thing I'm seriously gonna miss about HGSS. It's all like, "I caught this legendary pokemon...of LEGEND. ...and...he's rolling around in the grass playfully." I liked that. It sorta helped to give the pokemon some personality.

Rai said:
...although I hope the guy'd be wrong with Pokabu's evolutions, they really are ugly.
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Well, um, Pokabu IS a pig. Aren't pigs supposed to be ugly?

EDIT: Anyone else already compare these?

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Not actual evidence there, though it does suggest some validity.
 
The drawn versions appears to lack the yellow spot on the head behind the eye. And the collar thing looks a bit different.

Neither of those have any confirmation of being legit, though?

EDIT: The yellow spot could be due to the lines running across the screen capture.
 
The sprite is definitely fake, and the picture most likely is as well. The reason I say the sprite is fake is because if you look at the background of that picture and the ones in the new trailers, you see that the color and everything has changed.

Edit: The drawing is actually based off of beta ark work that was leaked a long time ago (Same for the mijumaru evo, as well). Even the poses and everything are the same, so someone probably just colored them in and stuff.
 
The thing is, that screen with Smugleaf evo sprite was taken from a video that showed a Platinum hack, at least, if Pokejungle really linked to the right source...

@Starter evos: I like the final Grass type, but Water and Fire are just... bad. We don´t need another Fire/Fighting imo and I really want Mijumaru become a cool samurai otter and not that... Digimon.

Btw how possible do you think is Hihidaruma getting Selfdestruct/Explosion? It DOES have the looks, imo, and from the name, it´s a puppet(A Daruma is some kind of vase/puppet thing):

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You can call me crazy, but I think Wargle should get Explosion because of its name. Really, it is War+Eagle, so it should get it, as well Flamethrower and Bullet Seed (but the latter is unlikely).
 
By the way, there is no reason to assume these aren't real. The same guy who leaked these pics has leaked quite a bit and he hasn't been wrong once yet. The only way this could be fake is if someone was impersonating him, but I heard serebii went so far as to check the IP adress.
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"The same guy". On 2ch. Yeah, right...
(I know about the IP thing serebii wrote, but that seriously does not mean anything. Faking IP adresses is easier than faking drawings...)

Also, I still think Encourage is meant to be a "trade-off" ability. Thus, it only works when the moves have "standard secondary effects" like Flamethrower and stuff like that. I mean, an ability that reads "no recharge turns" would be awesome just for this. An ability "no negative side effects from moves" calls for balancing (i.e. giving it to weaker pokemon only). "No negative side effects from moves but an attack boost INSTEAD" is just ridiculous.

You can call me crazy, but I think Wargle should get Explosion because of its name. Really, it is War+Eagle, so it should get it, as well Flamethrower and Bullet Seed (but the latter is unlikely).
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I actually think Bullet Seed is the MOST likely out of those. See Mantine.
 
Jibaku said:
- Wargle learns Superpower. So now at least we know it's getting a decent fighting move at least
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Aaaand here we go again, people speculating Encourage will boost Superpower. Haha.

- Reshiram fires a Fireball and Zekrom. Zekrom TURNS INTO a lightning ball and slams into Reshiram. Does this hint something?
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...What about that blue SkY (iirc) rumor about Reshiram learning Hellfire and Zekrom learning Swirling Thunder? Zekrom turned itself into a lightning ball, ascended and then went down in a spiral movement on Reshiram, after all ~__~

- On the third video you could hear Reshiram's cry. Looking back at the first video, you could also hear the same cry on the part where Reshiram/Zekrom meet. I'm not sure if you could hear Zekrom's cry, though.
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Meh. Sounded quite boring. Even Dialga had a more interesting cry, in my opinion.

- As far as the "three gym leaders" thing, they look like nothing more than regular trainers. If you remember Erika's gym in 1st/3rd gen, you'll notice that she has trainers by her side.
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Point. However, I still believe Dentou will be a starter-type Gym Leader. We just really need a sea monkey, after all!

DDRMaster said:
Did the second video show the boy turning into a Pokemon? And I find it odd that they have overworld sprites for all the Pokemon so you can see them in the daycare but they appear to not be able to follow you.
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I didn't see any human turning into a pokémon in any moment.



Except for that Machop, but I never pay much attention to C-Gear commercials anyway.
 
Okay,so Wargle gets an STAB Hyper Beam with no side effect and an abillity that boosts it's base power?! Thta's crazy talk,hopefully this thing won;t have an spA stat. And also Hihhidaruma(hope i spelled that right) looks like it will get Explosion. Abd here is what i think Hihidaruma stats will be like:

75/65/80/105/80/110

And Wargles should be like this:

80/110/50/100/90/135

And Tsutaja's final evo stats:

80/45/60/125/90/125

And Mijumaru's final evo:

105/100/90/95/110/60

And Pokabu's final evo:

90/120/75/85/90/80
 
Scicky said:
See Remoraid. :/

If Pokabu goes bipedal I'll cut someone, and wtf is up with Mijumaru's evo going, well, completely blue, and looking like some insane unicorn thing?
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Mijumaru's evo still has otter legs,so it could be real,but it looks really like a water ice type now.
 
Scicky said:
See Remoraid. :/
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Remoraid gets Bullet Seed. I know it gets Flamethrower as well but I never said that Wargle is NOT going to have Flamethrower, I was just saying that I consider Bullet Seed MORE likely.

To further discuss Wargle: Flamethrower is not necessary, since Wargle is quite sure to get Heat Wave anyway. We should really hope it gets Swords Dance, I think.
 
The Cicada said:
Mijumaru's evo still has otter legs,so it could be real,but it looks really like a water ice type now.
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Ew.

The last thing we need this generation is more Water/Ice types all over the place. Maybe if we got a fast sweeper, I would forgive GF, but we need more Water and Ice with whatever else instead.
 
The Cicada said:
And Wargles should be like this:

80/110/50/100/90/135
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I doubt that tbh. Something like 80/120/80/65/65/105 would be more realistic. Perhaps a little more speed, and/or SpA, but I definitely don't see it having 135 speed, and it'll almost definitely be much more physically offensive than special, IMO. Though it could get a usable SpA stat to compliment a higher Atk stat, ala TTar.
 
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