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Smogon's Top Video Games List - Stage 2 (Current topic - REDEMPTIONS)

CoD was a classic. CoD 2 improved it immensely and most people will say that is the best and most enjoyable game in the franchise. Some say it is the pinnacle of WWII FPS games. As for which one deserves to be on the list, again it's like RBY and GSC. I'd be happy to see both on the final list but if push comes to shove and there absolutely is no space then I'd support having the first game on the list.
 
I voted against Frogger, as it is not a "top 100" game. I don't understand why people are up in arms about this. I was under the assumption this was to be a compilation of bests, not "some games I played and kinda liked".
 
Frogger is a "classic" I guess. But it is in no way even a top 1,000 game. It doesn't hold up. The core gameplay isn't as intriguing as other classics like asteroids, tetris, etc.
 
Alright, it's pretty obvious someone has decided to be a troll and intentionally skewed the results of this group, so I'm going to have to redo it a different way. If I can figure out how to use UD's script I will begin using that. Until then we can continue discussion on Frogger and which CoD deserves to be re-added. Please remember if you're arguing one way or the other, try to come up with a coherent reason.
 
Galaga (Arcade) Abstain
Gears of War Abstain
Gladius Abstain
Glover Abstain
God of War Abstain
Golden Sun: Dark Dawn No
Golden Sun/Golden Sun: The Lost Age Yes
Goldeneye Yes
Gradius Gaiden Abstain
Gran Turismo Abstain
Gran Turismo 3 Abstain
Grand Theft Auto 3 Abstain
Grand Theft Auto IV Abstain
Grand Theft Auto San Andreas Abstain
Guild Wars Abstain
Guilty Gear Accent Core Abstain
Guitar Hero Yes
Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock Yes
Half life Abstain
Half life 2 Abstain
Half Life 2 Episode 1 Abstain
Half life 2 episode 2 Abstain
Halo Yes
Halo 2(Xbox) Yes
Halo 3 Abstain
Halo Reach Abstain
Galaga (Arcade)
Gears of War
Gladius
Glover
God of War
Golden Sun: Dark Dawn
Golden Sun/Golden Sun: The Lost Age
Goldeneye
Gradius Gaiden
Gran Turismo
Gran Turismo 3
Grand Theft Auto 3
Grand Theft Auto IV
Grand Theft Auto San Andreas
Guild Wars
Guilty Gear Accent Core
Guitar Hero
Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock
Half life
Half life 2
Half Life 2 Episode 1
Half life 2 episode 2
Halo
Halo 2(Xbox)
Halo 3
Halo Reach
 
Galaga (Arcade) No
Gears of War Yes
Gladius Abstain
Glover Abstain
God of War Yes
Golden Sun: Dark Dawn Yes
Golden Sun/Golden Sun: The Lost Age Yes
Goldeneye No
Gradius Gaiden No
Gran Turismo No
Gran Turismo 3 No
Grand Theft Auto 3 No
Grand Theft Auto IV No
Grand Theft Auto San Andreas No
Guild Wars No
Guilty Gear Accent Core Abstain
Guitar Hero No
Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock No
Half life No
Half life 2 Abstain
Half Life 2 Episode 1 Abstain
Half life 2 episode 2 Abstain
Halo Yes
Halo 2(Xbox) Yes
Halo 3 Yes
Halo Reach No
 
Halo 2 was the xbox game that everyone with an xbox had, cause there wasn't much else. Indeed the far more successful PS2's best selling game San Andreas sold twice as much.

CoD 2 and 4 were both good shooters, but I'll throw my hat in for Modern Warfare for the same reasons I stated before. The game established a sense of mortality that I think more game developers should try to work with. Even Treyarch can't seem to get their heads around the concept.

If we are arguing for redemption I'm going to suggest Diablo 3 again. It's new, and many people are still blinded by nostalgia for a 12 year old rpg. If you want just the best games on your list, you want Diablo 3. Freeing up resource systems, giving players more than two different abilities to use at once, getting rid of basic attacks, the absolute variety of 125 abilities per character before passives, the fact that all abilities scale, the lack of dead levels, the introduction of cooldowns and other systems to encourage diversity (generator/spenders), that is 7 things that every Diablo clone should have from now on. Diablo 3 is one of the biggest improvements as a sequel ever, and should be seen as a genre changer.

Dragon Age: Origins. Who the fuck voted no? Ok, I'm not Bioware's best friend at the moment but Dragon Age was the best Bioware game, and even really the best d&d esque fantasy game ever made. This is another prime role model for RPGs (one that the above Diablo 3 may have taken things from), requiring a great amount of strategy. You could script your allies and use a variety of abilities diversified by cooldowns. The mechanic for active abilities was genius. Each class had a variety of builds you could use, and damn that mage. Dragon Age is THE video game for playing mages. Then there is the surprisingly fresh story and always great characters. The ending even delivered. Remember when endings could just be good and show you what the effects of your actions were? Good times.
 
Galaga (Arcade) Yes
Gears of War Yes
Gladius Abstain
Glover Abstain
God of War Yes
Golden Sun: Dark Dawn Abstain
Golden Sun/Golden Sun: The Lost Age Abstain
Goldeneye Yes
Gradius Gaiden Abstain
Gran Turismo No
Gran Turismo 3 Yes
Grand Theft Auto 3 No
Grand Theft Auto IV Yes
Grand Theft Auto San Andreas No
Guild Wars Abstain
Guilty Gear Accent Core Abstain
Guitar Hero Abstain
Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock Abstain
Half life Yes
Half life 2 Yes
Half Life 2 Episode 1 No
Half life 2 episode 2 Yes
Halo Yes
Halo 2(Xbox) Yes
Halo 3 Yes
Halo Reach Abstain
 
Galaga (Arcade) Yes
Gears of War Abstain
Gladius Yes
Glover Abstain
God of War Yes
Golden Sun: Dark Dawn No
Golden Sun/Golden Sun: The Lost Age Yes
Goldeneye Yes
Gradius Gaiden Abstain
Gran Turismo Abstain
Gran Turismo 3 Abstain
Grand Theft Auto 3 Abstain
Grand Theft Auto IV Yes
Grand Theft Auto San Andreas Yes
Guild Wars Abstain
Guilty Gear Accent Core Yes
Guitar Hero Abstain
Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock Abstain
Half life No
Half life 2 Yes
Half Life 2 Episode 1 Abstain
Half life 2 episode 2 Abstain
Halo Yes
Halo 2(Xbox) Yes
Halo 3 No
Halo Reach Yes
 
@NoLuck - for now we'll post our votes here. I'm waiting for a response from UD but I'm pretty sure I can get the counter online so we can use that system from now on. If I could find a place to host the survey that prevented people from voting multiple times I would use that, but for now the script is the best option I have for the integrity of the polls.
 
WaterBomb can you see individual voters results? Like if one voter had a abnormally high amt of no's, and you can mark that certain voters poll results as void for possibly trolling.
 
Galaga (Arcade)
Gears of War - No
Gladius
Glover
God of War
Golden Sun: Dark Dawn
Golden Sun/Golden Sun: The Lost Age - Yes
Goldeneye
Gradius Gaiden
Gran Turismo
Gran Turismo 3
Grand Theft Auto 3 - Yes
Grand Theft Auto IV - No
Grand Theft Auto San Andreas - No
Guild Wars
Guilty Gear Accent Core
Guitar Hero
Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock
Half life - Yes
Half life 2
Half Life 2 Episode 1
Half life 2 episode 2
Halo - Yes
Halo 2(Xbox) - Yes
Halo 3 - No
Halo Reach - No
 
Note: Frogger sucks

Galaga (Arcade) YES
Gears of War NO
Gladius ABSTAIN
Glover ABSTAIN
God of War NO
Golden Sun: Dark Dawn ABSTAIN
Golden Sun/Golden Sun: The Lost Age ABSTAIN
Goldeneye NO
Gradius Gaiden NO
Gran Turismo ABSTAIN
Gran Turismo 3 YES
Grand Theft Auto 3 NO
Grand Theft Auto IV NO
Grand Theft Auto San Andreas NO
Guild Wars ABSTAIN
Guilty Gear Accent Core ABSTAIN
Guitar Hero NO
Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock NO
Half life ABSTAIN
Half life 2 ABSTAIN
Half Life 2 Episode 1 NO
Half life 2 episode 2 ABSTAIN
Halo ABSTAIN
Halo 2(Xbox) YES
Halo 3 YES
Halo Reach NO
 
Galaga (Arcade) Yes
Gears of War Abstain
Gladius Abstain
Glover Abstain
God of War abstain
Golden Sun: Dark Dawn abstain
Golden Sun/Golden Sun: The Lost Age abstain
Goldeneye Yes
Gradius Gaiden Abstain
Gran Turismo Abstain
Gran Turismo 3 Abstain
Grand Theft Auto 3 Abstain
Grand Theft Auto IV Abstain
Grand Theft Auto San Andreas Abstain
Guild Wars Abstain
Guilty Gear Accent Core Abstain
Guitar Hero Yes
Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock No
Half life Abstain
Half life 2 Abstain
Half Life 2 Episode 1 Abstain
Half life 2 episode 2 Abstain
Halo abstain
Halo 2(Xbox) abstain
Halo 3 abstain
Halo Reach Abstain
 
soul_survivor said:
WaterBomb can you see individual voters results? Like if one voter had a abnormally high amt of no's, and you can mark that certain voters poll results as void for possibly trolling.
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The site I was using (BooRoo) didn't allow me to see who voted unless I paid for a subscription, which I wasn't willing to do. Plus I wanted to utilize a website that didn't require people to register for an account to vote. I was forced to trust everyone to do the right thing, and I think everyone did so up until this round. Then some jackass decided that trolling the votes was funny so now I have to change and babysit it more. It's kind of a shame that there are lower life forms without a sense of humor that get their jollies from being stupid and making tasks more difficult for everyone else.
 
u mad waterbomb?
EDIT: trolls, change your tactics by voting yes for every game!
i wasn't trolling the polls btw
 
Galaga (Arcade) Yes
Gears of War Yes
Gladius Yes
Glover Abstain
God of War Yes
Golden Sun: Dark Dawn Yes
Golden Sun/Golden Sun: The Lost Age Abstain
Goldeneye Yes
Gradius Gaiden Yes
Gran Turismo Yes
Gran Turismo 3 Yes
Grand Theft Auto 3 Yes
Grand Theft Auto IV Yes
Grand Theft Auto San Andreas Yes
Guild Wars No
Guilty Gear Accent Core Yes
Guitar Hero Yea
Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock Yes
Half life Yes
Half life 2 Yes
Half Life 2 Episode 1 Yes
Half life 2 episode 2 Yes
Halo Yes
Halo 2(Xbox) Yes
Halo 3 Yes
Halo Reach Yes
 
Gears is largely responsible for every other game being a cover based shooter, so fuck it.

Still voting yes on everything though.
 
Galaga (Arcade) Yes
Gears of War Yes
Gladius Yes
Glover Yes
God of War Yes
Golden Sun: Dark Dawn Yes
Golden Sun/Golden Sun: The Lost Age Yes
Goldeneye Yes
Gradius Gaiden Yes
Gran Turismo Yes
Gran Turismo 3 Yes
Grand Theft Auto 3 Yes
Grand Theft Auto IV Yes
Grand Theft Auto San Andreas Yes
Guild Wars Yes
Guilty Gear Accent Core Yes
Guitar Hero Yes
Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock Yes
Half life Yes
Half life 2 Yes
Half Life 2 Episode 1 Yes
Half life 2 episode 2 Yes
Halo Yes
Halo 2(Xbox) Yes
Halo 3 Yes
Halo Reach Yes
 
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