Running avalanche just for Garchomp? That's a waste of a slot for just one pokemon. There may be some other uses but seriously how can one argue that running avalanche over ice fang is overall more effective? Please do explain.He said Avalanche, for god's sake. Learn to read the bloody post first.
In any case:
319 Atk vs 226 Def & 358 HP (120 Base Power): 244 - 288 (68.16% - 80.45%)
Which is a 16 Atk Gyarados against standard YacheChomp. Throw away the Yache and Chomp is dead, run Life Orb and Chomp is dead, run max Attack and Chomp is dead.
mostly agreeing with this postI think this post is starting to apply again.
Mence has no surefire "counters" only checks in the form of CB Scizor, ScarfLatias ect. yet he is not uber. He is not uber because of common battle conditions limiting his setup. I believe that Garchomp, though, has plenty of chances to set up in the given metagame and can do significant damage to an opponents team. For example, Scizor's bullet punch only does around 50% to Garchomp while it can OHKO Salamence after, which severely dents Salamence's usage, while Garchomp can fire fang back for an EASY ohko (assuming it doesn't have outrage). Garchomp also has a few more setup oppurtunities. Don't forget Garchomp has better defensive stats than Swampert, and much better resists than Mence does (including the resistance to stealth rock). This makes a garchomp sweep easy to pull off. And for the final nail in the coffin, Garchomp fits the support characteristic because of his limited checks. Garchomp requires Specs Latias / Steel types to be on your team or otherwise, he will sweep you easily. Some Garchomp sets (EM's Bulky Haban, SD Life Orb) have the potential to beat these counters (Skarm is generally SD oriented and Bronzong is 2hkod by life orb fire fang while he can not ohko garchomp back). This opens up sweeps for pokemon that enjoy these pokemon being removed... such as Salamence for example.
So that is why I now think Garchomp is Uber.