Go play a good scoot w/ da Sandman and as you cry yourself to sleep you might rethink your position on the matter.
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is it me or has the latest patch made tf2 unstable as fuck
5 crashes in an hour
5 crashes in an hour
I play some scout yo
Scout in general is annoying, but I don't think Sandman is making anyone cry to sleep. Unless you're an Ubercharged Medic that gets stunned and killed, but that's your own goddamn team's fault.
The point is still that the SHORTSTOP is banned of all thing is still hilarious.
You kids that just started playing TF2 have no idea how overpowered the sandman was in competitive. I remember playing on a super amateur team where you just spam the sandman across badlands and get an instant 5 sec stun in the first fight. And as masterful said, go play someone that is a very scout and you'll change you mind.
And like MrEsc said, who the fuck cares about 6v6. Its so overplayed. 2 sollys, 2 scouts, 1 demo and 1 medic. Zzz. At least with Highlander the matches are very unpredictable. Sure you may run the same strats but your loadouts and those used by your team can really change the stem of the battle. I really wish we could have another push for a highlander Smogon team, like when we use to scrim with our 6v6 team
And like MrEsc said, who the fuck cares about 6v6. Its so overplayed. 2 sollys, 2 scouts, 1 demo and 1 medic. Zzz. At least with Highlander the matches are very unpredictable. Sure you may run the same strats but your loadouts and those used by your team can really change the stem of the battle. I really wish we could have another push for a highlander Smogon team, like when we use to scrim with our 6v6 team
Haven't crashed at all since Friday. :( Maybe try deleting the stuff in your /tf/ folder besides /cfg/ and /maps/ .
I'm not too sure on the Bison; I've never even seen it used once in a scrim.
Sandman and Wrangler are definitely the worst of the bunch, even still after the uber update. The only obstacle to killing a Medic holding onto Uber or any other target with the Sandman is landing the stunball.
edit: I'd love to play on any Smogon team!!!!
The Backup's the easiest to charge of all the bugles, and it exponentially lowers the pressure on your medic to pop his uber. At 150 HP the resistances let you survive two full damage rockets, pipes, or scattergun shots, and nullifies sniper and kritzkrieg damage so much it's funny. The Buff Banner is also a useful sidegrade in comp, but it pretty much requires your Demoman to stay alive and healthy for it to be worth anything so it's balanced.
I'm not too sure on the Bison; I've never even seen it used once in a scrim.
Shortstop is banned because of how easy it is to play keepaway with it and not necessarily close in to get a kill. Scout's already great at survival + damage without needing a ranged weapon. The reload Valve introduced mid season weakens it a little, but it doesn't kill the weapon and the main problem with it is still there.
Sandman and Wrangler are definitely the worst of the bunch, even still after the uber update. The only obstacle to killing a Medic holding onto Uber or any other target with the Sandman is landing the stunball.
edit: I'd love to play on any Smogon team!!!!
6v6 is not simply 2 scouts 2 sollies 1 demo and 1 med. This is the basic layout and is used, but the 2 scouts and 2 sollies do offclass quite often throughout the course of the game. There is always one medic for obvious reasons, and the demo never changes because of his ridiculously high damage output.
The nerfed shortstop is actually pretty terrible, because the scout is now used solely as a heckler and doesn't have the raw dm ability that he gets with the scattergun.
The nerfed shortstop is actually pretty terrible, because the scout is now used solely as a heckler and doesn't have the raw dm ability that he gets with the scattergun.
lol nerfed shortstop being terrible
if they'd applied the reload speed increase to its RoF instead it might be balanced but beyond cutting its damage in half or something ridiculous it's always going to be way too good
if they'd applied the reload speed increase to its RoF instead it might be balanced but beyond cutting its damage in half or something ridiculous it's always going to be way too good
They ban most weps just to be as standard as possible, only a few weps in the game can be considered OP (Tomis, Gru, FoS, Sandvich, Sandman, Mad Milk, WRANGLER, and some others...mmm that's actually a decent amount), and the Milkman set, that's at least what I learned on this few months playing the game
Agreed on the 6vs6, is the reason why I quit competitive pokémon, is really not that fun after some time, same team, same maps, same loadouts, games are mean to have fun, and not fun just by winning, but fun by playing the game, it's pretty stressful knowing that a single mistake can cost you a life, I don't care about the destination, but the journey
Agreed on the 6vs6, is the reason why I quit competitive pokémon, is really not that fun after some time, same team, same maps, same loadouts, games are mean to have fun, and not fun just by winning, but fun by playing the game, it's pretty stressful knowing that a single mistake can cost you a life, I don't care about the destination, but the journey
iirc It reloads faster because it restores the whole clip, instead of the scattergun's one at a time business. In addition, the Shortstop has less bullet spread which allows it to work at longer ranges better than the scattergun.
How are any of these OP at all?
Because.... they make you too hard to kill, or too good at killing other people? There's not some infinite damage exploit if that's what you're asking.
Tomislav removes the Heavy's major weaknesses (slow rev and noise) for next to no cost
GRU and Sandvich basically do the same thing (speed and vulnerability to spam)
FoS makes him even better at taking damage as well as making heals 40% better
Sandman is a free kill if you don't suck at aiming
Mad Milk is pretty much a mini-Uber if you hit a group, even if you only hit their Demo or Med it's still basically a man down for a long time
Wrangler basically requires you to use an Uber and then the Wrangler team can counter-pop and crush you
GRU and Sandvich basically do the same thing (speed and vulnerability to spam)
FoS makes him even better at taking damage as well as making heals 40% better
Sandman is a free kill if you don't suck at aiming
Mad Milk is pretty much a mini-Uber if you hit a group, even if you only hit their Demo or Med it's still basically a man down for a long time
Wrangler basically requires you to use an Uber and then the Wrangler team can counter-pop and crush you
A good gimmicky Scout set is Soda Popper, Mad Milk, and Boston Basher. Minicrits and effective health regen? Loads of fun.
Yah, first time for TF2 Fri. for me in a long time...should be good.
Esc's not on yet, but join the group chat now!! Halloween event stuff's starting, so expect some CP_Manor_Event.
Blog Post!
And good games everyone! Next week's is already scheduled to be at 5 PM EST on Steam. Get ready for the Halloween update content.
edit - Also, what would the turnout for some tf2lobby.com games be? The last two fridays we contemplated it but didn't end up with many people left after pubbing for an hour. Who'd be interested in playing 2-3 next weekend? Maybe closer to 4 PM EST, if we want to pub too?
And good games everyone! Next week's is already scheduled to be at 5 PM EST on Steam. Get ready for the Halloween update content.
edit - Also, what would the turnout for some tf2lobby.com games be? The last two fridays we contemplated it but didn't end up with many people left after pubbing for an hour. Who'd be interested in playing 2-3 next weekend? Maybe closer to 4 PM EST, if we want to pub too?
I was sooooo bad at medic, I felt terrible for our team.
Good turnout Friday or something? D:
No unlockables. Scout ONLY. Final Destination.
Except TF2 competitive 6v6 is more like B/W OU if everything after the fist 151 pokemon were banned, not just normal ol' OU.
No unlockables. Scout ONLY. Final Destination.
Sorry about yesterday guys, my gf and I planned to hang out D:
Tomislav: The Heavy shouldn't be able to ambush, is too powerful, he does 500 DPS at point blank, no spin-up time is retardedly easy to abuse, and your only counter is a Heavy with Sasha or a bigger minigun
GRU: Again, the Heavy shoulnd't be able to run at the speed of the Pyro, -6 health per second?, more like faster Ubercharge, an awesome upgrade for a neligible downgrade, which is even abusable!
Fists of Steel: It removes one of the Heavy's weakness, being soft countered by Snipers, +40% indirect damage resistance is waaaay too much, and the downgrade?, +100% melee vulnerability, who in their right mind will melee a Heavy?
Sandvich: Full Health in 4 seconds, you can drop it and restore 150 hp, and you can restore your sandvich grabbing a single medikit!, who needs a shotgun when your primary is beast and you can tank more than 500 damage?
Mad Milk: if you're good with the Scout, this shit let's you tank a Heavy, nuff said
Sandman: Stunt means insta death. the ball is the fastest projectile in the game, if the Scout aims at your head, it will hit, is like trying to avoid an arrow at point blank, you can't, unless you're a Pyro, but is still hard to reflect
Wrangler: Sentries now have infinite range and effectively 2000 hp, what's even worse, in the hands of a skilled Engie even a Mini-Sentry is hard as fuck to take down, is like a mini Heavy, and if you destroy it, the Engie will just replace it
:I yeah
In the hands of experienced players they're OP
Tomislav: The Heavy shouldn't be able to ambush, is too powerful, he does 500 DPS at point blank, no spin-up time is retardedly easy to abuse, and your only counter is a Heavy with Sasha or a bigger minigun
GRU: Again, the Heavy shoulnd't be able to run at the speed of the Pyro, -6 health per second?, more like faster Ubercharge, an awesome upgrade for a neligible downgrade, which is even abusable!
Fists of Steel: It removes one of the Heavy's weakness, being soft countered by Snipers, +40% indirect damage resistance is waaaay too much, and the downgrade?, +100% melee vulnerability, who in their right mind will melee a Heavy?
Sandvich: Full Health in 4 seconds, you can drop it and restore 150 hp, and you can restore your sandvich grabbing a single medikit!, who needs a shotgun when your primary is beast and you can tank more than 500 damage?
Mad Milk: if you're good with the Scout, this shit let's you tank a Heavy, nuff said
Sandman: Stunt means insta death. the ball is the fastest projectile in the game, if the Scout aims at your head, it will hit, is like trying to avoid an arrow at point blank, you can't, unless you're a Pyro, but is still hard to reflect
Wrangler: Sentries now have infinite range and effectively 2000 hp, what's even worse, in the hands of a skilled Engie even a Mini-Sentry is hard as fuck to take down, is like a mini Heavy, and if you destroy it, the Engie will just replace it
:I yeah