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The Elder Scrolls V: Skyri- FUS RO DAH
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I don't think melee is OP in this game, but I get why people think that. Despite how absurdly good archery is many circumstances (like against all mages, any enemies that are outdoors, etc) there are times when you absolutely do need points in melee to survive. I'm especially thinking of some of the rush attack style enemies here (fucking sabre cats). I don't really see this as a bad thing, just because I know I stand a much lower chance of dying with an archer/melee/magic hybrid build than I do pure melee (not counting smithing/enchanting abuse which is...dumb).
Also I don't get all the people who say magic is weak, are you still using your base-level spells? Because the higher level destruction spells are just absurd, you can wipe out a room with chain lightning. It's especially fun to use against mages because it depletes all their magicka, leaving them to pull out their little puny little daggers.
Also I don't get all the people who say magic is weak, are you still using your base-level spells? Because the higher level destruction spells are just absurd, you can wipe out a room with chain lightning. It's especially fun to use against mages because it depletes all their magicka, leaving them to pull out their little puny little daggers.
Well, I assumed that pure mages would be dual-casting...
What kind of stats do you have that it's taking up your entire meter though? It takes less than half of mine. For reference, I have 12% reduced cost for destruction spells on my hat, armor, and ring, and I have level 53 Destruction (and most of the associated perks).
It's abuse to use a skill exactly as its intended? At least enchanting is expensive.
Anyway some hero, the blacksmith is Riverun (the first town after Helgen) will walk you through smithing, and the blacksmith in Riften is an expert trainer.
I've played the game a good 50 hours now I think (feels weird not having a count anywhere in a series famed for play time). It's easy to feel like the game is a huge gameplay leap for the Elder Scrolls series, what with Oblivion sucking and with Skyrim being able to captivate me much longer. But it seems pretty plain to me now that Skyrim is awesome purely on the merits of its quests and world. Everyone is worth talking to, there's fun and interesting things to do around every corner, and the factions are fleshed out and exciting. The fact that enemies don't level up with you makes you feel like you actually progress through the game rather than kind of just stagnate.
But really, leveling up was criminally dumbed down and perks are a good start but they are nothing special even when compared to other western rpgs, even Fallout 3. It was always kind of arbitrary that to get a good strength stat you had to level up skills you wouldn't actually use, but they could have fixed that when they shuffled skills around. It just rubs me the wrong way that leveling up is as simple as "health, magicka, or stamina". I see no reason why they got rid of sleeping to level up either, I mean between that and being a werewolf the only reason I found the Dark Brotherhood is because I guessed I'd have to sleep to advance the quest line.
Best game in the series. But it will be even better when the mods come in.
Just wondering, for people who have done pure fighters, how do you kill dragons without healing spells?
I mean, I find dragons kinda easy because they are slow, but their damage output is enormous when they hit you. I cant see you avoiding the fire breath in any way.. Do you just potion it, or what?
I mean, I find dragons kinda easy because they are slow, but their damage output is enormous when they hit you. I cant see you avoiding the fire breath in any way.. Do you just potion it, or what?
I made it back to my favourite cannibal village today! I dunno if this is like a scripted encounter, but when I fast travelled to klarth peak or whatever it is called, the place with the wall carving anyway, I had to slaughter the same village all over again during a blood dragon attack. Overall it was a lot easier this time, but it was pretty fun.
The whole experience brought back painful memories of Lydia.. No matter how many times I set her on fire, she would always follow me..
I should never have brought her to the college, she had no interest in magic, that was my own selfishness..
The whole experience brought back painful memories of Lydia.. No matter how many times I set her on fire, she would always follow me..
I should never have brought her to the college, she had no interest in magic, that was my own selfishness..
you can see your playtime in the loadgame screen . If you hover over a savefile till the info appears it will tell you exactly how long you have played. Also : steam keeps track of it aswell.
I can't find myself killing any dragons without restoration magic. I even have full dragon armor and a max upgraded daedric mace. If they stay in the air for too long and i don't have restoration i'm screwed.
I don't think it was intended for you to have 70 smithing/enchanting 10 hours into the game through farming daggers (which is what I was referring to).
I agree with all of this. I think the point at which I realized that this was going to be a game that's going to feel like an actual living world was when someone got stabbed right in front of me in the middle of a city with none of my involvement whatsoever - it really felt like the world was its own and I was just a bystander who sometimes happened to be in the right place.
At the same time, I find myself not really caring about the leveling or the combat or anything else because, to me, it's just a thing to do between exploring and questing. I have it at a difficulty high enough to be challenging, but I'm not metagaming or doing anything else outside what I am roleplaying my character as. I haven't felt this way since I played KOTOR for the first time, which is a pretty huge compliment from me.
I only just got to level 70 and I farm the hell out of Jewelry. It's good money, uses those jewels you find all over the place, and frankly there is no other way to level up smithing other than to use it as a cash cow. If someone took that to the extreme and got to level 70 in 10 hours they'd be really lopsided anyway. I use smithing because I love it, I was in love with it since the first blacksmith in Riverun. I even craft full heavy armor for Lydia.
I think the issue is that there's just no magic equivalent, you can't rush to Expert+ spells and even if you could you wouldn't have the magicka while equipment has no requirements to use.
Speaking of metagaming, someone brought up hiking and there was talk that it ruined the experience or something. I don't think so. If you could jump up a mountain you could climb it, but since there is no climb function (or acrobatics :( ) this'll have to do.
Even with a novice restoration spell, and with the first restoration perk (the one that allows you to cast novice restoration spells with 1/2 the cost), it's pretty easy to just spam it while the dragon is in the air. I find that even with 200+ HP, I can get around 1/4 to 1/2 my entire HP recovered while he's flying in the air.
Also, I find it useful to go close combat on the dragons, where they're not as likely to use their fire/frost breath, but try to bite you instead, and with a good shield, it allows you to mitigate the damage, while timing your strikes to be as effective as possible.
Love this game, currently a dark brotherhood companion thieve's guild argonian.
but goddamn i hate it when you lose your dragon - when you encounter one while in you're in an enclosed space (like a ravine) and you bring down the dragon's health enough that it has to land but since the space is enclosed and too small for the dragon to land, it lands somewhere else and you have no idea where the fuck it landed
but goddamn i hate it when you lose your dragon - when you encounter one while in you're in an enclosed space (like a ravine) and you bring down the dragon's health enough that it has to land but since the space is enclosed and too small for the dragon to land, it lands somewhere else and you have no idea where the fuck it landed
I don't use magic at all really, just a bow and dual swords and I can take out dragons but not without a hell of a fight. Of course potions help, especially combining things like One-Handed increase along with relative resist potions, but also I'm getting a huge help from the Unrelenting Force shout (level 3). I wait for the dragon to land and when it begins an attack, I use my shout which completely stuns it and allow me to swing as many times as I want before it comes back to reality. Also I've only used my Power once in my experience so far (because it's so easy to forget) but it did come in handy as well
Also: Am I the only person who thinks that nothing is really overpowered? (Except maybe Sneak :P)
my Dual spec can take on 2-3 dragons at one time on the default difficulty with only using the DragonRend shout. And yes I have been in a situation where I fought 3 dragons at one time. If I casted berserkers rage [I'm an orc] I could prolly take on 4-5 dragons. This is without potion usage as well. To be honest dual wielding one handers is pretty over powered especially if its swords like me. The default power attack is 3 melee hits (more powerful than normal hits) that applies your enchants eat hit. It also has a chance to crit all 3 times and this works especially well if you perk'd in one-handed swords which gives a great bonus % to your chance to crit with swords.You can also cast the power attack twice in a row without any lvling in your stamina which basically means 6 rapid power attacks in a row for anything that stands in your way.
I just got this game yesterday and I am loving it.
Im playing as a Khajiit and I just go to level 10.
I wish I had picked Dark Elf because Im duel wielding Destruction anyway but the sneak is nice and Sneak+Archery is amazing.
Lol I dont think I am very good, I am doing the College of Winterhold mission now and I just got through that Dwarven dungeon. I pretty much had to run through the entire thing cuz I just dont have the Magicka+Destruction level to do anything really.
And Dragons are so hard =_=. Takes me forever(like 15 ish minutes) to kill just one of those buggers.
How long does it take before enemies/Dragons become easier?
Great game, and I think anyone into gaming needs to get it.
Im playing as a Khajiit and I just go to level 10.
I wish I had picked Dark Elf because Im duel wielding Destruction anyway but the sneak is nice and Sneak+Archery is amazing.
Lol I dont think I am very good, I am doing the College of Winterhold mission now and I just got through that Dwarven dungeon. I pretty much had to run through the entire thing cuz I just dont have the Magicka+Destruction level to do anything really.
And Dragons are so hard =_=. Takes me forever(like 15 ish minutes) to kill just one of those buggers.
How long does it take before enemies/Dragons become easier?
Great game, and I think anyone into gaming needs to get it.
Alright I am making two characters and need so advice...
1. The first character is a Battlemage. He would be a Heavy Armor-based Mage that could hold his own in melee combat if he absolutely had to.
Race: Tough one here but I'm thinking Altmer or Breton, but could see the merits of a Nord.
2. The second Character is an Assassin/thief that is going to focus on Dual wielding daggers/swords, Archery and will have Light Armor along with typical stealth stuff etc.
Race: I'm thinking Khajit but I could see using Imperial (for Imperial Luck)
What do you guys think?
1. The first character is a Battlemage. He would be a Heavy Armor-based Mage that could hold his own in melee combat if he absolutely had to.
Race: Tough one here but I'm thinking Altmer or Breton, but could see the merits of a Nord.
2. The second Character is an Assassin/thief that is going to focus on Dual wielding daggers/swords, Archery and will have Light Armor along with typical stealth stuff etc.
Race: I'm thinking Khajit but I could see using Imperial (for Imperial Luck)
What do you guys think?
I've tried both this and Dark Souls and am having trouble deciding which to get. Dark Souls has a better battle system (especially sword and shield) and better controls as well as a better camera but Skyrim is SOO much more immersive and there is so much more to do plus the character building seems way better and more intriguing. Tough call.
Although Altmer and Breton are oriented as pure casters I believe they are good choices for a Battlemage, however neither recieve any bonuses to combat skills so I suspect you'll feel short in combat skills early on. I saw Blue Kirby is running a good build for Altmer with focus on Destruction, Conjuration, Restoration, and One-Handed, so that might be the way to go if you pick either Altmer or Breton.
Alternatively, if you prefer starting out even-handed I'd recommend an Imperial Battlemage. Imperials start with a skill bonus of +10 in Restoration, and have +5 bonuses for +5 Block, Destruction, Enchanting, Heavy Armor, and One-handed. The only other race that recieves a bonus in Heavy Armor are Orcs, while Nords get a bonus in Light Armor and recieve no bonuses in magic (not to say you can't run a Nord Battlemage, except you'll be short in magic skills early on).
Also, Restoration has a perk tree called Recovery which increases your magicka regeneration by 25% at 30 skill and 50% at 60 skill.
Khajiit is a great choice for this. I'd also recommend Bosmer (Wood Elf) as the two races are very similar: both classes recieve +5 in Alchemy, Lockpicking and Pickpocket. Khajit recieves +10 in Sneak and only +5 in Archery, but recieves +5 in one-handed; Bosmer recieves +10 in Archery and only +5 in sneak, but recieves +5 in Light Armor.
Okay so, is anyone using the Illusion school at all? I've already gotten plenty of levels in Archery/One-Handed/Destruction and I'm kind of looking to expand on my playstyle, but I literally haven't gotten any illusion spells besides Calm/Fury and I'm wondering if there's more to it than that.
I randomly found a spell for Muffle, which reduces your sneaking noise, and I cast it while breaking and entering, which it levels fairly quickly. I'm not quite sure of the higher benefits of Illusion, as I've been focusing a lot of my perks to making sure I'll actually survive in combat, so I'm pretty interested as to the power of some other spells.
As far as race selection goes, I'd weigh the special abilities more heavily than the skill bonuses; the latter will become a lot less important over time since skills level up faster at lower levels. Orcs and Bretons seem the best off overall as far as that goes; Berserker Rage is a pretty insane buff and magic resistance is very valuable since many of the games most dangerous enemies deal magic damage and there aren't many other ways to raise it.
Some other Illusion spells: Command Creature, Command Humanoid, Frenzy, Invisibility (I'd use it with Muffle!), Night-Eye, Muffle (as Moi said), Silence (prevents target from casting for its duration). Illusion is mostly useful to stealth character, most of its perks benefit the Command & Calm/Demoralise/Frenzy spells, however the perk you really want here is Quiet Casting (available at 50 skill) - with it, any spells you cast are invisible to others.
I leveled up Illusion in order to get Quiet Casting so I could place runes and conjure Flaming Familiars and snipe with Ice Spear/Fireball/Ice Spike etc. while sneaking. Also, it's really fun when you're on a Dark Brotherhood contract and you use fury on your target in a public place and he/she ends up attacking everyone and the guards end up killing her. No blood on my hands!