The Everything NFL Thread - 2012 Season (Up til 2013 Draft)

[Phoenix512]

The Bills might have to move up to get Geno since Arizona might be picking him and we all know how bad the Cardinals need a QB.

 

[kd24]

they will take the syracuse guy whose name escapes me atm

 

[Killah]

Percy Harvin has been reportedly traded to the Seahawks for a 1st round pick plus additional late round picks, pending his accepting of a new contract.


I think Harvin is a fantastic player, but I really really hate this deal. This is a massive mistake by the Seahawks, regardless of how well he plays for them next season and beyond. Harvin has insisted he be paid Megatron money, which is probably around $14-15 million a year, as opposed to Vincent Jackson/Dwayne Bowe money ($11 million a year).

He ended up signing for $11.2 million a year... probably way less than he was asking for, but still a lot of money.

The Seahawks now have the most expensive offense (by cap hit) of any team in the NFL... by a lot. It really is pretty interesting which teams are at the top: The Seahawks, Titans, Eagles, Chargers, and Cardinals are all in the top 10 for offensive spending, and were all in the bottom half of the league in offensive yardage except for the Eagles (#15). The Chargers/Cardinals were even #s 31 and 32.


Bernard Pollard got cut from the Ravens today... can't say I understand what their front office is doing, but I assume they have a plan. They certainly have the cap room to retain Ed Reed now, but everything I've heard suggests he's going to leave anyway. Maybe they don't even want him?

 

[uragg]

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat pollard nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

but yeah please ozzie don't f*cking re-sign reed...

 

[jrrrrrrr]

Who needs a defense when you have the best QB in the whole league?

- Ozzie Newsome

 

[WaterBomb]

Pollard is a headhunting scumbag, I'm glad the Ravens cut him.

 

[Ancien Régime]

The Flacco deal is going to go down as one of the worst sports deals ever. Top 3 QB money for a fringe top 15 QB (because chucking it to Boldin who's now gone totally makes you an elite QB lel).

 

[YTP]

I can see the first game now

"And NOW introducing HALF of your SuperBowl Champion Baltimore Ravens"

 

[CaptKirby]

the 15th-20th best QB is worth $20 million a year, the 15th-20th best RB is worth $4 million a year...the NFL is becoming a really strange place

 

[YTP]

Apparently Ray Lewis is taking a stab at working for ESPN. I could live without it. His speeches would be overkill imo.

 

[kd24]

Ray Lewis is taking a stab

 

[yond]

patriots offer welker 10 million for a 2 year deal.... it was so bad he did a spite signing with the broncos for a 2year 12million dollar deal LOL.

also MS don't get your hopes up on canty... he's been injured every year and hasn't really contributed anything. Maybe going back to a 5 tech will help his game.

 

[WaterBomb]

Ray Lewis is taking a stab

This is an A+ post

Also I have a new theory on the whole Ravens situation:

Ozzie Newsome is secretly a Browns loyalist, and is doing all this to screw the Ravens out of revenge for the move to Baltimore before he retires the day before Week 1.

 

[Killah]

This is an A+ post

Also I have a new theory on the whole Ravens situation:

Ozzie Newsome is secretly a Browns loyalist, and is doing all this to screw the Ravens out of revenge for the move to Baltimore before he retires the day before Week 1.

it's part of Darth Belichick's plot

before the AFC championship, they agreed to a deal... Baltimore wins the AFC this year, but Ozzie must destroy the team after the Super Bowl.

it's all part of the plan:

Target: New York Jets

Bill Belichick does not like the New York Jets. This much you must know. The Jets originally gave him the head-coaching job in 1997, but then pulled it out from under him when they were able to pry Bill Parcells from New England, busting Belichick back to assistant. As an assistant under Parcells, Belichick's contract gave him the Jets' head-coaching job if Parcells resigned. Parcells did just that in 1999 -- unexpectedly -- so he could step into the Jets' front office ... and lock his talented assistant into the job before he had any opportunity to interview elsewhere (namely, New England).

Or at least that's how I interpret the history.

Now, here is where things get interesting: Belichick did not take kindly to Parcells' attempt to manipulate his career. So he humiliated the Jets. At the press conference to announce him as the new head coach of the Jets ... he quit as head coach of the Jets. Well-played.

Then he took the head job with the Patriots, even though he was still under contract with the Jets. The Patriots were forced to give the Jets a first-round pick as compensation; Belichick allowed this so the Jets would think they had the upper hand.

Then he waited. Baited.

His first season in New England, the Patriots went 5-11. Meanwhile, the Jets -- coached by Al Groh -- were 9-7 and beat the Patriots twice by a combined score of 54-36.

The trap was set. And Belichick commenced humiliating the Jets on the field. From 2001 to 2004, the Patriots finished with the best record in the AFC East every season and won three Super Bowls. Meanwhile, the Jets went a mediocre 35-29 and had three forgettable playoff exits.

But something inside Belichick (a jet-black soul and a hankering for evil, perhaps) told him that was not enough, that the Jets had not suffered enough for what they had done to him. So he pulled his young defensive assistant, Eric Mangini, aside after the 2005 season and convinced him to join his plot to destroy the Jets. Only this time ... from within.

This is how I imagine the conversation may have gone.

Belichick: "Eric, speak with me." (Belichick says this while stroking a hairless cat in a gray hoodie and sitting in a throne in his volcano-top lair.)
Mangini: "Yes, master."
Belichick: "I want you to take the Jets head-coaching job and destroy them from the inside, piece by piece until there is nothing left. But to throw people off the scent, we will pretend we dislike each other. Also, your first season will be a great success. Then, the destruction will begin."
Mangini: "Yes, master. Yes."
They both laugh maniacally. (Although Belichick's laugh is far more maniacal.)


Target: Cleveland Browns

Here's the thing: Mangini's mission was not the first such attack on another franchise. There are so many moving parts to Belichick's scheme, and a true evil mastermind doesn't let anyone else in on the reach of the plan.
Belichick's first such dispatch was in 2005 after the Patriots won their third Super Bowl. He sent Romeo Crennel -- quiet, unassuming, lumpy Romeo Crennel: the perfect Trojan horse -- to Cleveland to destroy the Browns. The Browns, the TEAM THAT HAD DARED TO FIRE BILL BELICHICK! In fact, while Belichick gave much time and attention to destroying the Jets, he hates the Browns far more. It was his dismissal in Cleveland in 1995 after five years on the job that caused that switch inside him to flip. That caused him to come over to the dark side from the darkish-gray side.

You know, or at least that's the way I interpret it.

Anyway, that's exactly how it went down. And Crennel destroyed the Browns as thoroughly as Belichick had asked, going 24-40 in four seasons at the helm and sometimes even losing to the Bengals. The Bengals! Well-played, again.

And then, after Cleveland finally could take no more Crennel, Belichick went in with a perfectly timed finishing move: Eric Mangini.

Game, set, match.


Target: Notre Dame
Do not think Belichick's revenge scheme is limited only to the professional ranks. Not at all. He can get to someone who has wronged him anywhere and at any time.

This is what caused him to send Charlie Weis to destroy Notre Dame in what is perhaps Belichick's finest bit of sabotage.

You see, Bill Belichick's father was a scout and coach for Navy from 1956 to 1989. Over his final 26 years at Navy, the Midshipmen didn't beat Notre Dame. Not once. Total humiliation.

But then Belichick dispatches his trusted assistant Charlie Weis to South Bend and two short years later ... Navy 46, Notre Dame 44.

Perfectly executed.


Target: Denver Broncos
While Belichick was executing his master plan across the country, he got too extended and let things fall apart at home. The Patriots dynasty ended. Their Waterloo? Denver, January 2006. Seeking a fourth Super Bowl title in five years, the Patriots suffered a humiliating defeat to the Broncos in the playoffs. It was over.

But Belichick's thirst for revenge was not.

So this year he sent Josh McDaniels out to Colorado to destroy the Broncos as payback. And the eager, young lieutenant got right to work, ridding Denver of its franchise quarterback with stunning alacrity. In fact, McDaniels is working so quickly and effectively, he is liable to tip people off to what is really going on.

This is not Mangini starting strong with the Jets in 2006 as a diversion. McDaniels is going right to work. I mean, really. There might be nothing left of the Broncos by Week 1. Is McDaniels too young and inexperienced for the job? Or is Belichick just getting impatient and sloppy?


Target: Kansas City
Evidence that it might be the latter: Belichick has now dispatched his first player, Matt Cassel, to take down another franchise.

As you'll recall, Cassel had not started a football game since high school before Week 2 of last season. And then he played well only against the poorest teams on New England's schedule, repeatedly getting bailed out by the likes of Randy Moss and Wes Welker.

And why was it that this inexperienced, flawed quarterback got to play for such a talented team in the first place? Because Tom Brady got hurt. And what team hurt Tom Brady? Exactly. Kansas City.

 

[Imanalt]

I dont get it... Wallace gets 13 a year and welker, the guy who statistically at least is clearly one of the top 2 or 3 wrs the last few years gets 6?_?

Anyways, if the bills think they can get a franchise qb in this draft theyll be sorely dissapointed, i dont see anyone this year ever panning out to be better than a mediocre nfl starter

 

[TheValkyries]

Replacing Welker with Amendola.

k. I'm okay with this.

 

[Killah]

Replacing Welker with Amendola.

k. I'm okay with this.

Signing Amendola for $6.2 million a year after denying that mount to Welker is a serious spit in the face kind of move.

I think Welker definitely has a lot left in the tank, but also that this move was a long time coming. I have a feeling that Belichick had the idea in mind before the season even started to find a replacement for him.

I dont get it... Wallace gets 13 a year and welker, the guy who statistically at least is clearly one of the top 2 or 3 wrs the last few years gets 6?_?

Cassel was a system quarterback, who's to say Welker is not a system receiver? The Patriots clearly thought he was replaceable, and he's not some special athlete like Wallace is. While I'm almost 100% certain Peyton will be able to tap into the qualities that make Welker great over the next two years, I kind of doubt he'd be able to be as productive on three quarters of the teams in the NFL. Don't forget, Welker's already on the bad side of 30, and when his already mediocre physical skills start to decline there won't be much left for him in the NFL.

 

[Shinryu]

patriots offer welker 10 million for a 2 year deal.... it was so bad he did a spite signing with the broncos for a 2year 12million dollar deal LOL.

also MS don't get your hopes up on canty... he's been injured every year and hasn't really contributed anything. Maybe going back to a 5 tech will help his game.

That was pretty much what was going through my head, you'd rather turn your back on your main QB bro and a system you're familiar with for $1 mil more a year and playing for Peyton? I dunno, I did lol though...I mean, if $5mil a year and incentives for 2 is lowballing from the Patriots, the Broncos' offer must be what he considers a big megadeal I guess.

Also, Killah's post on Darth Bellichick is awesome.

 

[TheValkyries]

Signing Amendola for $6.2 million a year after denying that mount to Welker is a serious spit in the face kind of move.

Amendola is 4 years younger, and imo more talented than Welker at doing the job Welker does.

The only difference worth caring about now is whether or not he's durable enough, because that was one of Welker's better strengths.

 

[Every1XplodeNOW]

I'm just glad Miami is actually making a splash in free agency, Jeff Ireland usually does nothing and than wonders why the fans hate him so much. I was expecting them to release Reggie, so that didn't surprise me, Miller and Thomas are capable, they just need to work on their pass blocking. I'm really glad they were able to pick get #1 receiver and they able to get young good LBs in Ellerbe and Wheeler. They still need to work on their secondary though, so there's still that.

Regardless, I really excited for the Dolphins this season, I haven't felt this way in a long time.

 

[YTP]

MMMMM

 

[Steeler]

falcons release turner and sign steven jackson

lol

 

[YTP]

Eh we only need him to produce more than Turner. We're good

 

[Imanalt]

Steven jackson will be an improvement over turner, but the falcons were quite frankly, and despite their record, the clear number 3 team in the nfc last year, and i dont see jackson being enough for them to suddenly junp the seahawks and niners

 

[YTP]

Steven jackson will be an improvement over turner, but the falcons were quite frankly, and despite their record, the clear number 3 team in the nfc last year, and i dont see jackson being enough for them to suddenly junp the seahawks and niners

I do not think that Seattle (or even SF) was better than the Falcons last year, but I do not think we will be able to beat them next year unless we upgrade our trenches. Seattle probably would've won the superbowl if they had a good WR. Their receivers would've been the third option on most other teams.