Pokemon Black and White (SPECULATIONS ALLOWED HERE)

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Famitsu had new information about Reshiram/Zekrom, as well as Black City/White Forest.

"New information for Pokémon Black & White has been revealed in Famitsu Magazines. The Magazine has mentioned that there is a person in Black City who will raise your Pokémon's EV up, and in White Forest there is a person who you will give Berries in exchange for you Pokémon's Happiness up.

Later on in the magazine it talks about Reshiram's ability; Turboblaze, this will raise Reshiram's SP.ATK when a Fire move is used. As for Zekrom, his ability; Terravoltage will raise his attack up when an electric type move is used.

The signature attacks for Reshiram & Zekrom are also confirmed. Reshiram's signature attack is called "Gouka" its power is 100 and accuracy is at 80, it is a special move. Zekrom's signature is called "Zuzarai" its power and accuaracy are the same and is a physichal move."

(credit to Pokestation for the translation)

Those abilities sound sort of ridiculous o_O
 
I agree, although I do think that somehow GF will try to make it 'balanced' by making impractical to make use of, say by only letting it learn physical moves (think Magmortar, huge Sp. Att. but physical movepool) or inaccurate fire/electric moves.
 
Lucalibur said:
we already know about this info. you are kinda late.
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it was only a rumour posted on pokejungle up until now and was 100% unconfirmed, this is the first time it's been verified to be true.

i guess this should be taken more seriously now that some rumours are confirmed, and the rest from that post came from the same blog (apparently).

giving a pokemon a boost in an attack stat for using a STAB attack seems very broken on paper...
 
TurboBlaze and TeraVoltage are obviously going to boost Atk/SpA when a Fire/Electirc move is used on the pokémon in question, not by it. The wording is very ambiguous, and I doubt GF would give them such ridiculously overpowered abilities.
 
domeface said:
TurboBlaze and TeraVoltage are obviously going to boost Atk/SpA when a Fire/Electirc move is used on the pokémon in question, not by it. The wording is very ambiguous, and I doubt GF would give them such ridiculously overpowered abilities.
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Actually, that's not so obvious. It seems obvious to you and I, yes, because we think that they'd be overpowered otherwise. But the wording I've heard suggests that Resh/Zek gain boosts simply by spamming STAB attacks - I wouldn't put it past GF.

I must say I'm surprised to hear they are confirmed by Famitsu. I agree that this adds a lot more credibility to the other blue sky rumors. Still a lot of unanswered questions though... like are all those Pokemon listed after Resh/Zek all Legendary Pokemon? Or evos of past Pokemon?

...just what I always wanted either way -_-
 
Athenodoros said:
That makes much more sense. And does TurboBlaze correspond to Attack? Because otherwise it would be the same as heatran's ability (Heatproof, IIRC) and I can't think of any other examples of identical abilities.
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It's called Flash Fire, and it raises the power of Fire-type attacks by 1.5x. This would increase the Special Attack (or Attack) stat by 1.5x, which means you can get a boost and now all your moves are hitting that much harder.
 
Shroomisaur said:
Actually, that's not so obvious. It seems obvious to you and I, yes, because we think that they'd be overpowered otherwise. But the wording I've heard suggests that Resh/Zek gain boosts simply by spamming STAB attacks - I wouldn't put it past GF.

I must say I'm surprised to hear they are confirmed by Famitsu. I agree that this adds a lot more credibility to the other blue sky rumors. Still a lot of unanswered questions though... like are all those Pokemon listed after Resh/Zek all Legendary Pokemon? Or evos of past Pokemon?

...just what I always wanted either way -_-
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Apparently, the blue skY poster said they are all legends or BST 600+ pokémon.



Fuck this, I still want my Arbok evo...



EDIT -- Ok so this Pokestation has no scans of Famitsu. I'm still not believing them.
 
Wait, in one version you can pay for EVs, but you give berries for happiness in the other one? Is it just me or does that seem really unbalanced?
 
I hope so. I have been waiting four generations for a lapras evolution. My favourite pokemon the whole time, and a BST Lapras would be awesome.
 
I don't know if this has been brought up already, but I seem to recall reading somewhere that Black/White are going to get rid of the traditional HM set up as we know it, and instead opt for a secondary type of abilities that are innate in certain pokemon (ie, a water type already able to surf w/o need for the move, a flying type with fly, etc). You would still need a certain badge to use said abilities though. This would be great, since then I wouldn't need to dedicate (and therefore waste slots) on HM slaves. I hear that the HM's will still be available as TM's, so the useful ones like waterfall/surf and such can still be taught :D

Also, I'd really like it if a pokemon could learn more than 4 moves (let's say 5 or 6), but only have 4 active/usable at any given time. To change which 4 moves a pokemon can use in a battle, you would have to change it at an NPC or just in the pokemon menu. That would be really superb imo.

But yea, just my $.02
 
whoa if that's true, hell yes 5th gen bringing in alot of 600+ BST pokemon, hopefully they will be offensive.

I hope 100% counters doesn't exist in 5th gen, 4th gen tried that still people's minds here are stuck on 100% counters that 3rd gen was all about for a pokemon to stay in OU, i feel 5th gen will push even more and totally get rid of the solid counters, you can't possibly prepare to counter 640+ pokemon with a team of 6, it will all be about setting up your strategy first and effective.
 
Norid said:
I don't know if this has been brought up already, but I seem to recall reading somewhere that Black/White are going to get rid of the traditional HM set up as we know it, and instead opt for a secondary type of abilities that are innate in certain pokemon (ie, a water type already able to surf w/o need for the move, a flying type with fly, etc). You would still need a certain badge to use said abilities though. This would be great, since then I wouldn't need to dedicate (and therefore waste slots) on HM slaves. I hear that the HM's will still be available as TM's, so the useful ones like waterfall/surf and such can still be taught :D

Also, I'd really like it if a pokemon could learn more than 4 moves (let's say 5 or 6), but only have 4 active at any given time. To change which 4 moves a pokemon can use in a battle, you would have to change it at an NPC or just in the pokemon menu. That would be really superb imo.

But yea, just my $.02
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Interesting idea Norid. However, i don't think they will stray that far from the pokemon franchise's usual mechanics, but knows, we'll see.
 
Norid said:
I don't know if this has been brought up already, but I seem to recall reading somewhere that Black/White are going to get rid of the traditional HM set up as we know it, and instead opt for a secondary type of abilities that are innate in certain pokemon (ie, a water type already able to surf w/o need for the move, a flying type with fly, etc). You would still need a certain badge to use said abilities though. This would be great, since then I wouldn't need to dedicate (and therefore waste slots) on HM slaves. I hear that the HM's will still be available as TM's, so the useful ones like waterfall/surf and such can still be taught :D

Also, I'd really like it if a pokemon could learn more than 4 moves (let's say 5 or 6), but only have 4 active/usable at any given time. To change which 4 moves a pokemon can use in a battle, you would have to change it at an NPC or just in the pokemon menu. That would be really superb imo.

But yea, just my $.02
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Nah, nothing confirmed. Actually, I have never even heard this as a rumor.


And let's not start speculating again about what might be revealed, please.
 
Sorry, it wasn't my intention to start mass-speculations about possible in-game changes. I just think it would be a great way to streamline how conventional (ie, not focusing about the competitive metagame, and just playing it through like you probably did as a kid) playing works, since then you wouldn't have to worry about teaching unforgettable and probably useless moves to your cherished pokemon :P
 
HMs should be touch screen mini games. So say if you wanna use Cut you get the gym badge and then go to the tree and press A. THen a mini game comes up and you have to slash through it. Some pokemon will be better at it than others (eg SCyther) so it would take less time.

Just my 1p (y'know coz im not from USA).
 
domeface said:
TurboBlaze and TeraVoltage are obviously going to boost Atk/SpA when a Fire/Electirc move is used on the pokémon in question, not by it. The wording is very ambiguous, and I doubt GF would give them such ridiculously overpowered abilities.
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Are you sure? Gamefreak have given some Ubers crazy abilities. Never the Less, Groudon is ready to come in on Zekrom's Electric STAB and threaten with EQ, and Kyogre can pretty much come in for Free on Reshiram's attacks and threat with Surf/Waterspout.

If its the flip side of the coin and its just Flash Fire and Motor Drive with different boosts, then We have a brand new T-Wave asorber and alternative to going into Groudon when Thunders are aimed at Kygore in Zekrom, and ditto For Reshiram, except it comes in Giratina's for almost free (since they mainly WoW on the switch), as well as a possible new player in Stall, eating Fire Attacks for Forry and abusing Groudon who is also a core member of stall.
 
Critical_Hax said:
Are you sure? Gamefreak have given some Ubers crazy abilities.
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These are already pretty crazy abilities. They give an immunity to them and boost an offensive stat by one stage. Motor Drive only gives a boost to speed which isn't that great unless you have a move that will boost your Atk/SpAtk and Electivire only has Meditate and Charge Beam, which don't cut it.

So can we trust this magazine? I'm still a bit sceptical about this. Edit: I Googled Famitsu Pokemon and got nothing relating to Gen 5 in Images so I'm going to assume these rumors are fake until I see a scan. Assuming they are, Zekrom and Kyogre are going to be great partners (which we already knew) since Zekrom can take Grass and Electric attacks aimed at Kyogre and scare off any Special Walls with its (presumably) high Atk and Kyogre can take the Ice attacks aimed at Zekrom. Reshiram and Forretress will probably be good partners as well, possibly even better than Reshiram and Groudon. Forretress can take Dragon, Rock, and Ground attacks aimed at Reshiram and can spin away SR while Reshiram can take Fire attacks, including Will-O-Wisp, aimed at Forretress and take out things like Giratina-O that would prevent Forretress from Spinning.

Zekrom's immunity to Thunder Wave is probably going to make Rain even more common in Ubers since it cripples most Rain Pokemon like Kyogre, Kingdra, and Palkia.
 
Wait, Game Freak are acknowledging the existence of EVs? What's next, a way of being able to see what IVs your Pokemon has? (I know they had the scientist guy who sort of tells you roughly how good they are, but there's not been anyone who actually tells you the values.)

Zekrom and Reshiram's abilities are looking pretty sweet. If ubers are allowed at VGC11 I can see Discharge/Lava Plume users being paired up with them. Of course if too many people used that strategy then it'd backfire, but still, it could be interesting to try it out.
 
sb879 said:
Famitsu had new information about Reshiram/Zekrom, as well as Black City/White Forest.

"New information for Pokémon Black & White has been revealed in Famitsu Magazines. The Magazine has mentioned that there is a person in Black City who will raise your Pokémon's EV up, and in White Forest there is a person who you will give Berries in exchange for you Pokémon's Happiness up.

Later on in the magazine it talks about Reshiram's ability; Turboblaze, this will raise Reshiram's SP.ATK when a Fire move is used. As for Zekrom, his ability; Terravoltage will raise his attack up when an electric type move is used.

The signature attacks for Reshiram & Zekrom are also confirmed. Reshiram's signature attack is called "Gouka" its power is 100 and accuracy is at 80, it is a special move. Zekrom's signature is called "Zuzarai" its power and accuaracy are the same and is a physichal move."

(credit to Pokestation for the translation)

Those abilities sound sort of ridiculous o_O
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They just changed their page .-.

New rumours for Pokémon Black & White have been going around on 2ch. The 2ch rumour has been stated that there is a person in Black City who will raise your Pokémon's EV up, and in White Forest there is a person who you will give Berries in exchange for you Pokémon's Happiness up.

Other rumours on 2ch also tal about Reshiram's ability; Turboblaze, which will raise Reshiram's SP.ATK when a Fire move is used. As for Zekrom, his ability; Terravoltage will raise his attack up when an electric type move is used. Note that this is still a 2ch rumour.

The signature attacks for Reshiram & Zekrom are still unconfirmed. Reshiram's signature attack is called "Gouka" its power is 100 and accuracy is at 80, it is a special move. Zekrom's signature is called "Zuzarai" its power and accuaracy are the same and is a physichal move.

http://www.pokestation.net/

So yah, just another 2ch rumor >.>
 
Unknown Tsutaja said:
I actually think it will be a special move, because if it's physical, it's basically the same as Volt tackle. Plus, the animation made it look special IMO.
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Well, if it's physical, it's probably just going to be a Volt tackle that isn't exclusive to the Pikachu evolution line. But yeah, I'm all for it being a special move.
 
deluge said:
One thing is true about the 680 BST Legends: they always have at least one stat 150 or above (Rayquaza got two).
But there have been only four unique distributions organized as:
Mewtwo, Lugia, Ho-Oh
Groudon, Kyogre
Dialga, Palkia, Giratina
Weirdquaza
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Those two don't count. They only have 670 BST.
 
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