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5th Gen PRNG Help / Info - Latest: RNG Reporter 9.96.5, PPRNG 1.15.0
- Thread starter Slashmolder
- Start date
You can either keep saving an additional time to advance the PID and eventually hit a synchronize frame (faster method) or you can get rid of your syncher (I heard it messes with nature results) and learn how to manipulate natures.
Correct.
Personally, I think hatching flawless Pokemon is easier because I don't like messing with encounter slots. When you breed, though, you have to deal with inheritance, so you need good parents.
Well, I tried 03/31/2031, 13:38:48 and got nothing st--
Oh. Gonna try it again, this time I'll wait until the castle appears.
EDIT -- Again, nothing. Just to be sure, when is the seed precisely determined? When I load the game in the DS menu, when the Pokémon Company logo appears, when the Game Freak comet appears...?
Find your parameters again but this time, hold a button while the game loads (make sure you add the button to the Held Button box).
Buckert
Obsessive Collecting Disorder
How can I determine my starting PID frame for breeding? I've got an Oshawott with 3 IV's at 31 (Atk is 31, so it has that Power item for that.) and a Timid Flawless Ditto in the Day Care. Got 3 eggs, first without Chatter, second with 1 Chatter and the last on with 2 Chatters, and I guess I start on PID frame 158. Is that possible for breeding?
Seed: EEAC5302BA448D7D
ID: 55913 SID: 14797
Edit:
Oh, here are my test run hatches, mentioned above.
1. Male Timid Oshawott; 4/31/31/30/31/31
2. Male Relaxed Oshawott; 31/31/31/30/31/31
3. Male Timid Oshawott; 4/31/31/31/31/31
Seed: EEAC5302BA448D7D
ID: 55913 SID: 14797
Edit:
Oh, here are my test run hatches, mentioned above.
1. Male Timid Oshawott; 4/31/31/30/31/31
2. Male Relaxed Oshawott; 31/31/31/30/31/31
3. Male Timid Oshawott; 4/31/31/31/31/31
There is no help button box in the PPRNG (Mac) Parameter Finder. :(
Ok, I believe what's happening is that your timer0 value is increasing to c80 whenever you hold a button. Try to hit a seed with a timer0 of C7F with no keypresses, and then try to hit a seed with a keypress and a timer0 of C80.
Tried both IV/date combinations again, now looking for 0-59 seconds.
...Oh. I guess I found out my problem. But now I have my parameters so who cares, right?
...Oh. I guess I found out my problem. But now I have my parameters so who cares, right?
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Notes: I tried it 4x and checked the next 9 frames to double-check my starting frame. It was correct. I also hit the right seed with the right nature, but it's not shiny.
I tried to do some with C7E instead of C7F since that's the other Timer0 I sporadically land on sometimes. I also hit the target PID that's suppose to be shiny, but still isn't even if it's the right nature. I'm sure my TID and SID are correct too.
For anyone who's willing to help, here's some info of my game.
Pokemon White
MAC Address: 0022AA06DA5C
PID:41944 SID:55301
Vcount: 60
Timer0: C7F (Sometimes C7E)
GxStat: 6
Vframe: 6
The last seed I checked for shiny.
Stationary Pokemon
07E16F66DB79E7F0
4-1-11
2:19:32
Hold: X
it's C7E instead of my usual C7F. I've hit that quirky on frame 57.
It wasn't shiny.
alright what should i do if ive check the ivs but dont have the exact ivs
I was going to point out that you're walking 129 steps, but you said that you're hitting your IVs anyway so it doesn't matter in this case.
Celestial Tower 2F has a trainer who randomly rotates, which would be messing up the PIDRNG and adding unknown frames to it. (This is actually good to know, because I was also planning on RNGing a shiny Litwick on 2F soon as well.) Try this: Walk 128 steps on 1F, and make your final step so you're right next to the entrance to 2F. Then you can press left and immediately go to 2F (I'm pretty sure that this doesn't count as a step). As soon as you get there, pause so the NPC doesn't move, then do your switch/Sweet Scent. I'f I'm not mistaken, this should let you do your 128 step advancement without anything interfering. Let me know if this works.
Buckert
Obsessive Collecting Disorder
Trying to RNG breed now. Put in a male and female tropius with no items whatsoever to calibrate it, and try to understand the breeding RNG. So I saved and calibrated my initial frame to (probably) 50, which was the only reasonable frame with a naive F with the DW ability, followed by a sassy DW male.
US Black on a DS lite, MAC 001DBCE1AB40, timer0 C7C
I found a non-cgear frame 8 gift, seed 669D2040B64A13D2
Time 4/17/11 16:46:00
With a target spread 31 / 22 / 31 / 31 / 31 / 31
With a father with 31 / 31 / 18 / 14 / 20 / 31
and mother with 8, 9 / 31 / 22 / 31 / 26 / 31
I aimed for a target frame (using Breeding (BW)) of 364, which should yield a Calm DW M with the spread M/F/x/F/x/x.
I got 2-16/31/31/14-15/31/31, which is obviously the wrong IV spread, but the right nature/gender/ability.
I did it again a few times using that baby (since it had better IVs than the father I was using before), and am consistently hitting the predicted nature/gender/(DW) ability, but even ignoring the IV spread, the inheritance spreads are turning up different from what it predicts.
US Black on a DS lite, MAC 001DBCE1AB40, timer0 C7C
I found a non-cgear frame 8 gift, seed 669D2040B64A13D2
Time 4/17/11 16:46:00
With a target spread 31 / 22 / 31 / 31 / 31 / 31
With a father with 31 / 31 / 18 / 14 / 20 / 31
and mother with 8, 9 / 31 / 22 / 31 / 26 / 31
I aimed for a target frame (using Breeding (BW)) of 364, which should yield a Calm DW M with the spread M/F/x/F/x/x.
I got 2-16/31/31/14-15/31/31, which is obviously the wrong IV spread, but the right nature/gender/ability.
I did it again a few times using that baby (since it had better IVs than the father I was using before), and am consistently hitting the predicted nature/gender/(DW) ability, but even ignoring the IV spread, the inheritance spreads are turning up different from what it predicts.
Respawn Thundurus
So I got mixed with my 0Timer and so when I initially went for Thundurus, It wasn't having the IV's so I decided to give up and finally sorted everything out and now I'm Non-Cgearing with no problems.
I'm going to go for Thundurus again, but need to respawn him. If anyone has done this before at which point do I need to start advancing frames or be saved at etc? If anyone can help...thanks.
So I got mixed with my 0Timer and so when I initially went for Thundurus, It wasn't having the IV's so I decided to give up and finally sorted everything out and now I'm Non-Cgearing with no problems.
I'm going to go for Thundurus again, but need to respawn him. If anyone has done this before at which point do I need to start advancing frames or be saved at etc? If anyone can help...thanks.
There are also wandering NPCs on Floor 1 of Celestial Tower. However, there are two solutions to all this:
1. (What I did while abusing my shiny Litwick) Battle the wandering trainer and make sure they walk at least one square to get to you. They will wander, nevermore (At least until you exit the map).
2. Go to the top floor (Where the bell is). No wandering NPCs but you also have to worry about encounter slot, which should not be (too much of) a problem since every other one is Litwick.
To both hotdogturtle and hoiboy, hope all this helps. =D
Having some issues with my shiny capture. I'm trying to get a Litwick in the Celestial Tower on the third floor (no NPC movement unless I hit B).
My parameters:
GxStat: 6
Vcount: 60
VFrame: 8
MAC: 0009BF13CCF6
Timer0: C7F
Full Seed: A68A9CD7769A50F0
I hit a shiny PID on Frame 506. My starting PID Frame is 47. My IV Frame is 10. Here's what I did. My path includes 10 steps and then a turn.
1) I walked 384 steps with 3 pokemon do advance my frame.
2) I calculated that my PID should be at: 1 (start) + 384 (384 steps in a place with wild Pokemon) + 76 (38 turns) + 47 (start) = 508.
I realize this PID frame is 2 over my target one but I'm just doing this for testing. There's a path with 11 steps and then a turn which should put me at 504.
Is this calculation correct? I haven't been able to find which PID frame I'm landing on.
My parameters:
GxStat: 6
Vcount: 60
VFrame: 8
MAC: 0009BF13CCF6
Timer0: C7F
Full Seed: A68A9CD7769A50F0
I hit a shiny PID on Frame 506. My starting PID Frame is 47. My IV Frame is 10. Here's what I did. My path includes 10 steps and then a turn.
1) I walked 384 steps with 3 pokemon do advance my frame.
2) I calculated that my PID should be at: 1 (start) + 384 (384 steps in a place with wild Pokemon) + 76 (38 turns) + 47 (start) = 508.
I realize this PID frame is 2 over my target one but I'm just doing this for testing. There's a path with 11 steps and then a turn which should put me at 504.
Is this calculation correct? I haven't been able to find which PID frame I'm landing on.
The only problem with that is that my shiny frame is Elgyem anywhere but 2F, so I'd have to find a new seed =/
But I appreciate the help and I'll post here once I start if I have any problems.
You're way over 500. What's the nature sequence? It should be around frame 800. Walking in areas with wild pokes advances by 2, not 1.
the encounter list starts at 0.
So when you look at the list, it's as follows: 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11
Has anyone done non C-Gear abuse on a acekard 2i? If so, anyone knows the settings I should put in the seed encryption variables? Unless this isn't possible because it doesn't give me any results when trying to find the parameters.
