I'm just wondering, where in the world are you supposed to level up Petlil in the first place? The gym that comes after is the bug one isn't it?
I'm just wondering, where in the world are you supposed to level up Petlil in the first place? The gym that comes after is the bug one isn't it?
1) There are a couple Dwebbles in that GymI'm just wondering, where in the world are you supposed to level up Petlil in the first place? The gym that comes after is the bug one isn't it?
I was referring to Petilils sp[eed which makes it impossible to wild poke train as it cant run from anything. And I most certainly have used it before, Ive finished 3 runthorughs and am Scrambling a 4th atm and I was commenting from experience. Your last comment may be accurate but then that stems directly from other comments saying how good it is--people want to see this thing that everyone says is so amazing and find that in most situations it is useless.She KO'ed plenty of things with Giga Drain. She also has 90 base Speed, which is most certainly not "slow as fuck."
Really, I think some people are commenting on certain Pokemon without ever having used them before. Either that or they caught one with really terrible IV's in all the wrong places and then proceeded to put said Pokemon in less-than-favorable situations just to see it fail.
As for Leavanny, I think it's pretty good. I would put it somewhere in Upper-mid (which, for the record, is probably where I would also place Lilligant).
Drilbur is far and away the better ground type; Sandile doesn't even begin to compare to Drilbur until level 40, and even then it's still worse due to having lower attack, worse typing, and worse moves Excadrill gets Earthquake at level 36; Krookodile doesn't learn the same STAB until level 54.This is a nice list, though it seems rather.. unupdated?
I have a rather serious question, Drilbur or Sandile? As my in game ground type.
Drilbur, from what I heard has problems at first when you first encounter it. (Getting to level 19 for dig) Is that a major problem?
Sandile, I have heard suffers from bad defenses which mitigate his advantages.
Drilbur is far and away the better ground type; Sandile doesn't even begin to compare to Drilbur until level 40, and even then it's still worse due to having lower attack, worse typing, and worse moves Excadrill gets Earthquake at level 36; Krookodile doesn't learn the same STAB until level 54.
Thanks! And thanks Vladimir & Spweasel!
Well, can't argue with it being 3 > 0. Nobody seems to be arguing in Sandile's favor, so Drilbur it is. I actually think that I will catch him early if it will be worth it a little bit later.
@Vladimir I will have access to Conkeldurr, so is there still any reason to have a Scraggy on my team? Conkeldurr seems to be the best fighting type in the game, but I'm wondering if Scraggy will still have any other uses.
I'm sorry to have gotten you guys "Liligant" discussion off topic though. Imo, it seems to be the best "in game" special grass type, while Leavanny is the best physical one, nomatter what tier they wind up in.
Scrafty is possibly the best Pokemon in-game against the Elite 4 and beyond simply by having an almost perfect typing, great defenses, and Moxie. Marshal's really the only holdout, since Scrafty can either just crush or set up (with X-Speed) and then crush any of the other 5 trainers.
I stand by my assessment that Marshal is the single hardest encounter in the game, since everything has amazing coverage and you aren't really given a chance to set up. Even worse, most of the best counters for Marshal are extremely bad Pokemon otherwise - Confagrigus, for example, would have an easy win against him, but Yamask is just lame for most of the game. Even otherwise amazing counters like Jellicent or Golurk won't like getting hit by Grass Knot (200-240 Power attacks sting even coming off of 30-55 SpA).
Speaking of Sigilyph, i vote it for Upper Mid. Being a Psychic type means it is screwed by the many Dark Types in game, and when you get it, it is stuck with Psybeam and Air Cutter. I got lots more reasons why, but dont feel like posting em
It's amazing how i was quite literally the only person in this thread that argued Joltik going down a tier, but after Colonel_M posted stating he'd move it, the same people that were trying to disprove me are now heavily supporting it staying mid tier. Talk about solid opinions...
UGH FOR FUCKS SAKE PEOPLE STOP DISCUSSING THE SAME 2 POKEMON AD NAUSEUM, I SWEAR YOU'RE ALL DOING THIS JUST TO TROLL THE THREAD.
For the love of God, can you actually disguss Pokemon which DESERVE to be discussed, ones which haven't been discussed yet? Instead of THE SAME TWO FUCKING THINGS WE STARTED OFF DISCUSSING WITH?!
Any thoughts on reuniclus, chandelure, and haxorus? I think i'll try them on my next playthrough, but why are they generally disregarded? Do they really come that late? I think reuniclus, when the time comes, should be at least mid because in the beginning (as solosis) he actually has high special attack and in my first run killed my throh.
But seriously, Reuniclus is a freaking JELLY BEAR. YOU CAN'T SAY NO TO A JELLY BEAR.
Thanks! And thanks Vladimir & Spweasel!
Well, can't argue with it being 3 > 0. Nobody seems to be arguing in Sandile's favor, so Drilbur it is. I actually think that I will catch him early if it will be worth it a little bit later.
@Vladimir I will have access to Conkeldurr, so is there still any reason to have a Scraggy on my team? Conkeldurr seems to be the best fighting type in the game, but I'm wondering if Scraggy will still have any other uses.
I'm sorry to have gotten you guys "Liligant" discussion off topic though. Imo, it seems to be the best "in game" special grass type, while Leavanny is the best physical one, nomatter what tier they wind up in.
The tier lists gauge effectiveness versus effort at completing the main storyline. Archen requires fairly minimal effort and gives maximum effectiveness.
You don't have to follow them-I've been considering using Larvesta for a second version despite all its many negatives (bad leveup movepool, limited TMs, bad stats, and inability to efficiently evolve even AFTER Ghetsis), and several mons simply require EXP share/Lucky Egg babying to get good-but they certainly are helpful for determining how well your mons will fight through the in-game.
Sandile and Krokorok suck, though. They have shitty defenses and the effort to get to a Krookodile isn't even worth it when Excadrill has Swords Dance and a typing that lets it set up.