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League of Legends: Let's Talk About uhhh??

I really don't like the new Twisted Treeline. I didn't like the old one either.

Me and my IRL friends have been messing around with comps and we found that the team with the larger number of Singed/Darius/Mundo/Teemo/Olaf/Riven/Lee Sin/Shyvana always wins regardless of the other team members. We win every time with 3 bruiser, then we mess around with zombie Karthus and protect the Kog'Maw (in seperate games obviously) and autolose because the other team picked Darius.

Honestly, if Riot ever wants TT to be balanced, they need to begin separate balancing on it. The changes there don't even have to affect SR-if they want it to be more then just a way to boost to gold quickly, they'll do it.
 
Personally I want to own every champion someday. Not really sure why I have this goal, but I did.

Go straight to sorc boots and haunting guise. Vlad is very effective against double AP teams as he can take full advantage of abyssal scepter. The biggest mistakes people make on champs like Vlad is going straight to hextech instead beacause its so tempting to play with infinite sustain.

Oh and keep 4 stacks of your aids at all times. Its annoying to check every few seconds for when the buff runs out but this is also essential. 4 stacked aids deals around twice the normal damage.
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Yeah, I just have to keep working to figure him out and the right build for him. Unfortunately, I keep getting champs at a rapid rate and I keep getting champs I like just a little more so he gets shoved aside :(

Going straight hextech is what I have done in every game with him. I will take your advice and see if I am more successful!

Also, Jayce is fucking complicated as hell. I see the potential though with the insane combos he's capable of! Can't wait to try out Shyvana now!
 
Just played a PvP game with Morgana. We lost pretty badly but I still won my lane and had a blast. Her shield is great for avoiding all the cc Zyra and Olaf were trying to put on me and my q w combo chunked them like nothing else.

I also played a PvP TT game with Riven earlier today. Once I got Lord Van Damm's and Blade of the Ruined King, I could easily run it, stun someone, exhaust another, and just jump around dealing massive damage.
 
shinyskarmory: try playing Kayle or Tryndamere. Trynda's shout affects AD directly, that's why I suggest him as anti-Darius.

That being said, general consensus is that Darius is broken on TT right now.

Amumu is apparently a really good dedicated jungler on new TT, and TBH Maokai doesn't mind the new itemization either.

As for Teemo, he's a pubstomper--his main gimmick is countered with 250 gold.

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Wicked Hatchet--probably the best sustain bruiser balance item in TT right now.

Getting fed inane numbers of kills and Blade of the Ruined King mean nothing against autoattack-applied Grievous Wounds. Especially if you try building magic damage on Olaf besides Blade of the Ruined King itself.
 
OK so it's not like it's TSM or whatever but I'll take a ranked win over TakashiX and TreeEskimo even in 3s

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Wish I had played a character I was more experienced with but didn't know who the opponents were obviously, worked out well enough, though.

Also to jump the question i don't really know why I have flash instead of ghost either i was drunk leave me alone


jumpluff said:
Stop bitching and whining, everyone, that goes for absolutely everyone since this thread is full of complaining, and anyone who bickers about the complainers is ruining the thread just as badly. If you want to express a negative opinion then do it in a way that doesn't make the thread annoying for everyone else to read. If you want to tell a cool story about shitty LoL players then think about if it's really worth it for anyone else to read (like funny or whatever) or at least compress it. If it's just going to annoy everyone else to read it then make a LiveJournal or Tumblr and tell your stories there. Stories about games are welcome, bitchfests are not.
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When I saw the post you were replying to here I originally had my first "shit suddenly regret not trying to stay a mod" moment but glad to see you're taking care of it. Thanks.

Yeti said:
I didn't count Ezreal because in my experience he doesn't do enough damage to kill bruisers. I beat one in lane as Maokai.. he took more damage from my EQ than I did from his autos. Caitlyn doesn't do a ton of damage like Vayne does but she has reliable wards, her E which also slows, and a mammoth amount of range which puts her above Ezreal imo. Also Peacemaker to send through random bushes. I dunno Ezreal just doesn't feel as strong on the map and the bruiser meta.. he's not really known for his damage onto tanks.
Plus Ezreal is more about poke pre-fights with his Q and W, with the quantity of bruisers they are all about starting a fight, he doesn't have a ton of time to poke. Once a fight breaks out Vayne and Kayle can say OK LET'S RUMBLE and do a lot more damage than him. I guess we value different assets but I wouldn't personally want Ezreal on my TT team, I think there's better ADs for the map.

I can definitely see the mages being mentioned (notably Zyra/Cass/Morde) being strong on the map. There are some who I think just won't have as fun of a time, it's not really a mage-happy map like SR, but if you have the comp for it then I can see someone who pushes hard and has a lot of damage/CC utility being successful, probably as long as you peel off Cass if someone tries to dive her.
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Agree with everything Yeti said here for the most part fwiw. I haven't been very impressed by ADs in general but if I was going to use one it would be Vayne since she duels so well and carries so hard late game or Draven for his early game presence, have been very, very unimpressed with the rest. As that implies I would disagree with Caitlyn, definitely don't think her laning and the trap/ward thing makes up for her shoddy lategame or her being pretty easy to dive relative to stuff like Vayne and Kayle who are trying to do the same sort of thing. With most comps I'd rather get my AD damage from a second bruiser that builds a little less defensively than from an actual AD carry, but I'm probably biased since we tend to do a lot of protect the AP stuff, which I'm preferring to protect the AD at this point.

Agree that most APs are pretty shaky obviously, we've tried most of them and while the stuff I mentioned before has mostly been pretty great there's a lot of stuff we've used that's been pretty underwhelming, too (Brand, Malz, Ahri, Swain...). It's worth noting Lulu and Soraka are both strong too. While I think bruisers are definitely still pretty outrageous compared to everything else it's nice that even a good chunk of the more traditional AP carries are not only viable but almost optimal, though. There's some balance changes that could help even things out in TT a little but I enjoy where things are at the moment a lot, having a good time with this map.
 
^ Win's a win dawg. Shitty teammates blow but you guys won so that's still nice.

Shyvana is BADASS AS FUCK omg new favorite champ it's so boss to just DRAGON FORM and rip people's asses apart.

I need some help with my other new champ, Jayce. I have only played two games so far with him, but my scores have been like 4/4 and 3/10 and we lost both games soooooo I'm scared to try him again. Any tips? As in build and which lane I should pick and strategy etc?
 
Byrne said:
^ Win's a win dawg. Shitty teammates blow but you guys won so that's still nice.

Shyvana is BADASS AS FUCK omg new favorite champ it's so boss to just DRAGON FORM and rip people's asses apart.

I need some help with my other new champ, Jayce. I have only played two games so far with him, but my scores have been like 4/4 and 3/10 and we lost both games soooooo I'm scared to try him again. Any tips? As in build and which lane I should pick and strategy etc?
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Jayce is really high skill cap so you could try some bot games until you get used to him. Also, watch games either on the LoL client or on Youtube to see how other people play him. Doing that really helped me learn a bunch of different champs.
 
If I never complained 6-dimension would have zero posts in the thread since I started posting here.

I generally rush IE with Cait but BT made more sense this game. I was playing super conservative so I wasn't concerned about losing stacks; Yorick was who Riven/Eve had fed the most so I wanted to get my LW ASAP; my team wasn't peeling for me at all so the sustain helped me when Kha jumped me; at the point I bought it the enemy was trying to push our inner mid turret and I already had Vamp and had exactly enough to build BT. So I built BT to give me some firepower for the coming fight and get me to my end build faster.
 
UncleSam said:
I still don't understand why people would spend money on League of Legends when you can get literally everything for free just by playing...like if you don't play enough to get the stuff you want you don't play the game enough to merit spending money on it.
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To support riot, they are a great company. I didn't realize how nice everyone @ riot was until I met them at worlds during all the downtime with the clg.eu thing. They were all friendly and I was also able to get sona/graves/riven skin codes from them without any hassle. Also got a ton of free stuff.

Also I have to support a company who gave me my party rammus hat for free.
 
Yeah, I don't mind throwing money at Riot at all. I have paid more for worse games when you consider monthly fees for MMOs and that sort of thing and while I've spent more on League by now than I would an off the shelf game I've spent a hell of a lot more time with it, too. No game is gonna be run exactly how anyone think it should be, but the balance in League tends to be pretty good and the game always tends to be pretty quality with service that is rarely interrupted. I dealt with more bullshit in any given month of World of Warcraft and in the single week I tried to play Diablo III than I have the whole time I've played League... Riot deserve some love.
 
UncleSam said:
I still don't understand why people would spend money on League of Legends when you can get literally everything for free just by playing...like if you don't play enough to get the stuff you want you don't play the game enough to merit spending money on it.
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I still don't understand why people act high and mighty about their stingy inability to spend money on League of Legends when it can amazing game that is given to you for free...like if you play enough to get the stuff you want you play enough to merit supporting the company with your money.
 
Yeah, rem, Synre, and von are right. I am always hesitant to spend my money on gaming companies I don't support, but I have no qualms giving some money to Riot. I think they treat their fans pretty well all things considered, since they are a business. A lot of them post on the forums even in their free times, they're communicative about the occasional downtime, and I enjoy the game they make a lot. Good enough for me.
 
So I've just discovered that I love Dr. Mundo after 4 games of playing him (the first being an ARAM).

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The only times I died was once early on before I had my ult, and late game when I tried to kill+tank a half hp tower without my ult while ignoring Elise (didn't kill it because I tried to run away when I had a fifth of my hp remaining). At that point I had 5k gold because why b when you can just ult and continue farming?

A question I want to ask of you all is how do my items look for 3s? I usually go Boots+ Doran's Shield->Heart of Gold->Spirit Visage->Pillager->HoG->Force of Nature->Randiun's, but I'm not sure what my last item should be since this was the first game I actually managed to get a full build. I'm also not sure if my current build order is good or not or if I should even change out items entirely.

Last question, does Mundo's Q and W proc spell vamp (from Pillager)? On Vladimir spell vamp on his Q comes with two separate HP notifications, one for the spell's natural regen and one from his items, but I've never noticed two separate notifications on Mundo's Q, nor any that seem to be from his W.
 
no need to build blackfire on him; if you want more damage build a mallet or something

Q and W do proc spell vamp but they both have health costs so it'll probably be difficult to notice your health increasing
 
after having to deal with EA from FIFA you really start to appreciate good companies like riot. seriously, the amount of bullshit some shitty organizations can fling at you is pretty massive and riot is p much the opposite, have never spent money like this but considering to do it in this game just to support it.

i shall post here again once i hit level 30
 
MagicMaster87 said:
On Vladimir spell vamp on his Q comes with two separate HP notifications, one for the spell's natural regen and one from his items, but I've never noticed two separate notifications on Mundo's Q, nor any that seem to be from his W.
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This actually only applies for Vlad's Q, and it's because the spell vamp is applied at the same time as damage, which is instant, but the spell's healing part is applied until the blood particle that jumps from your target to you reaches you, so that's why you see two numbers.
 
So I tried Janna during free week once, didn't really like her, decided to buy her just cuz yesterday, and omg love herrr ~

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ashe thought I was trolling lmao
 
Jebus McAzn said:
no need to build blackfire on him; if you want more damage build a mallet or something
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Didn't think about Mallet. I'll try that out next time, although I felt like Q was slowing well enough anyways. I'm guessing the small AD boost + AA slow is better than the small W boost + Q/W slow from Rylai's?

Jebus McAzn said:
Q and W do proc spell vamp but they both have health costs so it'll probably be difficult to notice your health increasing
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RaRe555 said:
This actually only applies for Vlad's Q, and it's because the spell vamp is applied at the same time as damage, which is instant, but the spell's healing part is applied until the blood particle that jumps from your target to you reaches you, so that's why you see two numbers.
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I figured this was the case but just wanted to make sure because at the time I couldn't think of any other spell that had built-in healing and could proc spell vamp like Vlad's Q. Thanks to both!
 
Rylais on Janna whose only 2 damaging abilities both have CC built into them. Smooth.

Also no Athenes makes me sad because Janna loves everything on it (she's decently mana heavy and likes the cdr to throw out more shields/W's/knockups)
 
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