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drcrashmd the problems with nunu being a "bad jungler" just means that he is UP(underpowered) in general at high tier play. Playing at level 10 , though, you probably *shouldnt* jungle because of teammates being idiots and yelling the whole game at you. nunu clears jungle decently with his Consume+smite, and with some AP you can really do some damage with ice ball (especially vs idiots who probably wont build MR) "in a bot game" i had so much AP as Nunu that i was dealing 2300 on a full ult charge. Like gene said "tiers" arent so important that early, whatever champ you feel comfortable as and you understand correctly can get you where you want to be.
 
Well I definitely feel comfortable with Nunu, and I typically only "jungle" to get blue buff mid and late game, as it makes ice ball recharge holyshitfast.

Also yeah, AP items are a must as they make his ult hurt like hell.
 
Nunu got his ass nerfed to the point where he is a pretty low-tier jungler. He just isn't useful to a team if he isn't super good at counter-jungling or ganking, and unless you feel that you are that good, it's really a better idea to just use one of the high junglers, like Warwick, Trundle, or Nocturne.

mfw Warwick is a 'high jungler'
 
Warwick is pretty bad as a jungler. Yes he clears with ease and is safe, but pre-6 is awful, other champs can walk into his jungle and take whatever they like with very little fear of retaliation outside of the odd Q, and there's 0 fear for the enemy laners for the first 8 minutes of the game because his ganks are just so lacklustre without his ult. I can't go back to him now that I'm comfortable with Nocturne. I just feel useless whenever my Ultimate is on cooldown. Lanewick, however, is still an awful lot of fun to play.

Nunu really isn't as low tier as some players like to make out. He's still got fantastic ganks from level 2 onwards, some of the best roaming and counter jungling in the game, good scaling without farm...
From my experiences playing him I'd say his low damage output later on is his biggest problem. I'd be more inclined to play him on a team with an offensive bruiser in bot over a support (something like the support gangplank that was seen recently). I think it's mostly sour grapes and Gangplank buffs that have knocked him down on the pros' tier lists, but honestly he's still viable.

If you're just starting out, Nunu is a great character to play as with Blood Boil and Ice Blast you're difficult to gank successfully, and not dying is the second most important skill you will ever learn in League of Legends, after last hitting of course.
 
I dunno man... with Deathcap + Void Staff Ice Blast seems to do some pretty good damage, even if they've built some MR.

I trust your word though, as I'm only Lvl 10 and you're probably like 30. XD
 
Is Xin Zhao a nooby champ like Yi or Mordekaiser? I'm loving him but I'm worried that buying him will be a waste.

(By nooby I mean a champ that nooby BRs love because they do a lot of damage but who aren't all that great against competent players.)
 
Is Xin Zhao a nooby champ like Yi or Mordekaiser? I'm loving him but I'm worried that buying him will be a waste.

(By nooby I mean a champ that nooby BRs love because they do a lot of damage but who aren't all that great against competent players.)
Xin Zhao is OKAY I guess. I mean his ganks are powerful and as a melee DPS he can carry games if you get sufficiently fed. Still, Lee Sin does everything he does basically 1000x better - you do sacrifice a guaranteed dash and a knockup but Lee Sin is better all-around, has much better sustainability, versatility, 1v1 ability, jungle speed, dragon control, burst, sustained DPS, and power.

Xin isn't a BAD jungler per se but he's not the best pick given the other choices available.

Mordekaiser on the other hand is picked quite often in competitive play. Yi... not so much.
 
Is Xin Zhao a nooby champ like Yi or Mordekaiser? I'm loving him but I'm worried that buying him will be a waste.

(By nooby I mean a champ that nooby BRs love because they do a lot of damage but who aren't all that great against competent players.)

Xin is a good jungler, but by no means an exceeding commonly chosen pick in comp play, with competition from champs like Lee Sin. He is definitely no tnooby, and I will believe until I die that Mordekaiser is even an okay pick in comp, even without CC
 
Been finally figuring out when over extending is over extending and exactly whats builds are good and what are bad. Also mordakaiser sucks now due to the nerfs.
 
Been finally figuring out when over extending is over extending and exactly whats builds are good and what are bad. Also mordakaiser sucks now due to the nerfs.
i wouldn't say he sucks. they didn't nerf his harass and pushing power by any, and it still doesn't change the fact that he can drop a squishy from full to zero really quickly in a team fight while still having a massive shield - even more massive now early on.

granted the minion thing was a nerf but once he gets his revolver he should be fine anyway
 
Just hit level 20 and bought my Tier 3 runes.

Reds: 6 ArPen, 6 MrPen
Yellows: 6 Flat Armor
Blues: 6 Scaling MR
Quints: 2 ArPen, 1 Flat AP

Didn't have IP for another Quint for mages.

Officially broke.
 
Been finally figuring out when over extending is over extending and exactly whats builds are good and what are bad. Also mordakaiser sucks now due to the nerfs.

He needed a nerf, considering the amount of hate he gets as an OP champ in solo queue. He is no Nidalee, where they just fuck her over for no reason. (/biasedopinion) He is still good

Just hit level 20 and bought my Tier 3 runes.

Reds: 6 ArPen, 6 MrPen
Yellows: 6 Flat Armor
Blues: 6 Scaling MR
Quints: 2 ArPen, 1 Flat AP

Didn't have IP for another Quint for mages.

Officially broke.
Get yourself some HP quints when you get some more ip
 
Don't bother with HP Quints, they're ridiculously overpriced. Armour Pen and Flat AP are far more useful on a wider range of champions for more than the first 5 minutes of a game.
 
Don't bother with armor pen quints either. I'd go so far as to say that 90% of the time, flat attack damage quints are stronger. Armor pen quints are really only useful on junglers who use attack speed marks to optimize jungle speed - but there are MANY of those.
 
So we played the first round of our mobafire tourney match today... we played pretty much the worst players I've ever seen who showed up in a competitive setting for anything ever and were accused of hacking for basically the entirety of both games. It was like playing a team of retarded MrEs. I'll add the replays later if we have them because the chat was _amazing_, especially in game 2. Somehow they all had between 550 and 1100 wins. I'm not sure how you win that many games without figuring out hacks are not why you are losing.

mobafireround1.png
 
we get to play curse if we win the next round

i really hope it's not some 0-20 shitstomp that gets streamed
 
'your a trash cait btw'

hahaahahaha those guys. gratz again you guys are in #64 now it seems good luck with team curse if you make it past there.

I was reading the chat and I agree that it's silly they had to resort to calling you guys 'hackers'
 
So we played the first round of our mobafire tourney match today... we played pretty much the worst players I've ever seen who showed up in a competitive setting for anything ever and were accused of hacking for basically the entirety of both games. It was like playing a team of retarded MrEs. I'll add the replays later if we have them because the chat was _amazing_, especially in game 2. Somehow they all had between 550 and 1100 wins. I'm not sure how you win that many games without figuring out hacks are not why you are losing.

mobafireround1.png
hope you guys will be ok after curse stomps your shit

my team got stomped in the australian one day competition by frenetic array so we've been in the exact same position as you, cruising along beating teams ranging from absolute shit (the screenshot) to very challenging (teams hovering around 3rd-10th in australia) except anyone that talks shit like that other team is banned from the website
 
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