Pokemon Black and White (SPECULATIONS ALLOWED HERE)

[Seriin]

Just wishful thinking, though. Emonga is the same height as Pachirisu, and as said I would think their names would bear some similarity to eachother.

To be fair to you, the names are similar. Electric synonym + Mouse relative animal. Problem is that Pikachu also has the exact same naming convention. And the style of element+animal is common as well :P

I do see, and have to agree with, your point on the ability however.

 

[PKMN Trainer Manson]

That's Darumakka, and it's only a pre-evo. Gamefreak hates fire types too much to make a 3 evo line

I think you totally misunderstood me. I didn't mean to say Dharmakka and Hihidharma would be party of a three-stage evolution. I only said that it has a prevolution and thus that makes Hihidharma the second stage evolution

EDIT: OH, God dammit, the card game naming scheme. I didn't mean the card game naming scheme. The way I meant it was that Dharmakka was the first stage, and Hihidharma was the second stage.

 

[Wishy]

Emonga is awesome, so much better than Pachirisu! 8D It looks awesome.

 

[TheMaskedNitpicker]

I wonder if they'll work on the weather some so that Hail and Sun can stand up to Rain and Sandstorm.

In doubles, Hail's probably at least as good as Sandstorm, mostly because of Blizzard's upgraded accuracy.

The new egg moves in HG/SS seems to have gone a long way toward catching Sunny Day up to Rain Dance in doubles.

Victreebel and Cherrim get Weather Ball.
Arcanine and Rapidash get Morning Sun.
Ninetales, Shiftry, Tangrowth, and Exeggutor get Power Swap.
Vileplume and Bellossom get Teeter Dance.
Sunflora gets Earth Power (actually a Platinum tutor move).

All in all, that's a pretty good haul. All Rain Dance teams can really boast is more users of Muddy Water, and lots of Rain Dance teams seem to fill up on Water Absorb and Dry Skin Pokémon anyhow, so they prefer Surf.

 

[blasphemy1]

I really doubt Emonga is a pachi evo, he was shown with the demo and there's not gonna be any old pokemon pre-nat dex.

But DP didn't let you get Rhyperior/Magmortar/Electivire/etc until post-national dex. I'm pretty sure it is an evolution, but the color scheme isn't quite the same. Either way, I hope this is our first Static Pokemon who can find a niche. Switching into Close Combats / Wood Hammers / etc would be really cool, especially to paralyze them right after. Gigaiasu looks pretty cool in the picture, too. Growth could be really, really useful on mixed sweepers. I doubt something like Infernape would get it, though, which is too bad.

 

[Unknown Tsutaja]

Every grass type learns Swords dance...

Anyway Victreebel can go mixed with Weather Ball and leaf blade (in the sun of course)

Again, VENUSAUR... Seriously, does nobody see the potential in having the ability to fire off boosted Leaf Storms (may seem counterproductive, but it allows it to bluff physical and kill milotic with energy ball... not to mention run Leaf storm/EQ/Sludge bomb to hit everything for neutral

Which is why I'm saying SD is a better option than Growth, and I like Leaf Storm/EQ/HP Fire better than that. FireMonkey must be strong if it has a pre-evo, hopefully it evolves

 

[Colonel Darren]

The problem with Sunny Day is that there really isn't a version of Swift Swim for Fire Types. I believe that is what makes Rain Dance completely outclass Sunny Day as-is.

No boosted STAB from the Sun. No double-Speed Fire abusers. Fire isn't as versatile of an attacking type or defensive type as Water.

 

[Not Scicky]

But the only one of those shown before the game was released was vire.

 

[PKMN Trainer Manson]

Either way, I hope this is our first Static Pokemon who can find a niche. Switching into Close Combats / Wood Hammers / etc would be really cool, especially to paralyze them right after.

This would be really cool. Too bad regardless of whether or not it's a Pachirisu evolution, it doesn't look like something that could take even a resisted hit, at least certainly not from powerful attacks like Close Combat. But I suppose there's no way to accurately guess that at the moment.

@Scicky: And, well, we've already gotten Mamambou, and that basically confirms a Sinnoh-like deal for evolutions, if Gamefreak really means all new Pokemon before beating the Elite Four. Honestly, I think Emonga can go either way this point. I know I'll be a little sore if it's not a Pachirisu evolution, not necessarily because Pachirisu doesn't need it (it does), but the specific things I think they have similar are striking.

@Colonel Darren: Isn't Chlorophyll basically Sunny Day Swift Swim? you said for Fire-types, my bad...

 

[Unknown Tsutaja]

This would be really cool. Too bad regardless of whether or not it's a Pachirisu evolution, it doesn't look like something that could take even a resisted hit, at least certainly not from powerful attacks like Close Combat. But I suppose there's no way to accurately guess that at the moment.


@Colonel Darren: Isn't Chlorophyll basically Sunny Day Swift Swim?

If it is a bulky Pachirisu evo, damn, I will have something to counter it in every one of my teams, Pachirisu is annoying enough.

 

[blasphemy1]

OK so the deer is Normal/Grass with Chlorophyll. This interests me, because 'Seasonal Beam' is a rumored move which changes type based on season. So this means you could have Sunny Day / -Grass Move- / Season Beam / Hidden Power, which will get you perfect coverage. In the summer, it will be Fire, which will give it pseudo-STAB under the sun. The only Pokemon that resist Grass + Fire are Dragon and Fire-types (combined with other types, of course). HP Ground covers the latter, and a STAB Normal move would deal with both of them decently (though Fires have Heatran).

 

[R_N]

OK so the deer is Normal/Grass with Chlorophyll. This interests me, because 'Seasonal Beam' is a rumored move which changes type based on season. So this means you could have Sunny Day / -Grass Move- / Season Beam / Hidden Power, which will get you perfect coverage. In the summer, it will be Fire, which will give it pseudo-STAB under the sun. The only Pokemon that resist Grass + Fire are Dragon and Fire-types (combined with other types, of course). HP Ground covers the latter, and a STAB Normal move would deal with both of them decently (though Fires have Heatran).

"Season Beam" was also debunked the moment we found out Gigaiasu's typing

 

[deluge]

Gigaiasu, as the High Pressure Pokemon seems inspired by diamonds and other such tough gems.
That, along with Sturdy, suggests sky high defense and hopefully some SpD too.
Rock is still horrible defensively but at least they didn't make it Rock/Steel.

 

[PKMN Trainer Manson]

Hmmm. Maybe the weather indicator is there because maybe during certain seasons (say, for example, Summer), there will be constant weather of some sort (which in this example might be strong sunlight). The only problem with this is that there's no existing weather for Fall (Rain could go with Spring-- that would make sense in the US at least, don't know what kind of springs Japan has, and Hail would obviously go with winter). But then again it would be kind of lame to have a weather going all the time during a season.

 

[Unknown Tsutaja]

OK so the deer is Normal/Grass with Chlorophyll. This interests me, because 'Seasonal Beam' is a rumored move which changes type based on season. So this means you could have Sunny Day / -Grass Move- / Season Beam / Hidden Power, which will get you perfect coverage. In the summer, it will be Fire, which will give it pseudo-STAB under the sun. The only Pokemon that resist Grass + Fire are Dragon and Fire-types (combined with other types, of course). HP Ground covers the latter, and a STAB Normal move would deal with both of them decently (though Fires have Heatran).

I really like it, and I hope it gets the most epic evo ever :D

 

[Trent]

Maybe Shikijika will evolve into something different depending on the season?

 

[Seriin]

Hmmm. Maybe the weather indicator is there because maybe during certain seasons (say, for example, Summer), there will be constant weather of some sort (which in this example might be strong sunlight). The only problem with this is that there's no existing weather for Fall (Rain could go with Spring-- that would make sense in the US at least, don't know what kind of springs Japan has, and Hail would obviously go with winter). But then again it would be kind of lame to have a weather going all the time during a season.

Maybe then you could have a changing weather system, like in a Harvest Moon or Animal Crossing. It wouldn't be as big of a departure (lake of rage varies between rain and no rain) but it would be a nice change from the way weather was handled in RSE and DPP, mainly certain routes having constant rain.

This would give a purpose to the weather report on the TV news :P

 

[Unknown Tsutaja]

Maybe Shikijika will evolve into something different depending on the season?

Or maybe it's evo is like Castform, not like the stats, but like the changing thing, just in seasons

 

[blasphemy1]

"Season Beam" was also debunked the moment we found out Gigaiasu's typing

Doh. It would make sense though, maybe not those exact mechanics, but something similar.

 

[TheMaskedNitpicker]

The problem with Sunny Day is that there really isn't a version of Swift Swim for Fire Types. I believe that is what makes Rain Dance completely outclass Sunny Day as-is.

No boosted STAB from the Sun. No double-Speed Fire abusers. Fire isn't as versatile of an attacking type or defensive type as Water.

This is mostly true, but with the advent of Weather Ball on Victreebel, we have at least one Chlorophyll user with a powerful Fire-type move.

Because many Pokémon have both Swift Swim and Water-type STAB moves, I agree that Rain Dance is much easier to use than Sunny Day, and that it may still be somewhat more powerful. It's also generally less versatile. In the hands of a skilled player, I think a Sunny Day team can approach the power of a Rain Dance team.

 

[Garagara]

This is mostly true, but with the advent of Weather Ball on Victreebel, we have at least one Chlorophyll user with a powerful Fire-type move.

Because many Pokémon have both Swift Swim and Water-type STAB moves, I agree that Rain Dance is much easier to use than Sunny Day, and that it may still be somewhat more powerful. It's also generally less versatile. In the hands of a skilled player, I think a Sunny Day team can approach the power of a Rain Dance team.

Well of course a skilled player could play a worse team, but why would they. I mean, unless everyone is so prepared for rain dance teams that making them becomes difficult, I think it's dumb that sun can only be used by skilled players while rain can be played by a kid who rides the short bus. That's just another way of saying it's do able, but much worse.

 

[ATinuviel]

I had a dream yesterday where Shikijika evolved into a moose, and its antlers are shaped like tree branches with leaves that change colors depending on season. So in spring it'll have lots of leaves, in summer it'll have flowers and fruits. In autumn it'll have reddish leaves, and in winter pretty much just bare branch with some leaves still hanging.

 

[Colonel Darren]

This is mostly true, but with the advent of Weather Ball on Victreebel, we have at least one Chlorophyll user with a powerful Fire-type move.

Because many Pokémon have both Swift Swim and Water-type STAB moves, I agree that Rain Dance is much easier to use than Sunny Day, and that it may still be somewhat more powerful. It's also generally less versatile. In the hands of a skilled player, I think a Sunny Day team can approach the power of a Rain Dance team.

Yes, I realize Victreebel gets Weather Ball, but it's still a valid point I bring. Another heavy advantage that Rain has over Sun that I would like to see fixed in Gen 5 is the sheer amount of weapons that Rain has.

Kabutops can decimate any physically weak Pokemon and has a very strong Priority move after boosting itself with STAB and Rain. Ludicolo and Gorebyss can easily abuse a great movepool with special attacks that can really punish near anything. And don't even get me started on Kingdra. There's next to nothing Sunny Day can offer that can match what Kingdra can give Rain Dance teams.

 

[Sy123]

I want Team Plasma to be more crazy than Galactic

1. Team Galactic: For god's sake he loves blowing the hell out of things, the lake. The marsh. And he wanted to make a new world for himself. And leave everyone else behind while they get blown up (Yes even his own minions)

2. Team Magma: There her because, although their plan is crazy and world breaking, they didnt know what they were doing half the time. Still petty thieves

3. Team Rocket: Petty thieves, seem more like they all wanted to do things for themselves, rather than slaving away for one boss. They all wanted pokemon, they were rather amusing actually

4. Team Aqua: Consequence of the plans=Indoor swimming pool

 

[Hecaton]

Watch the poke info level then
Seriousy no more for this guy



Jokes aside shikijika will be in my main team. Also if normal grass was in the rumour surely you cannot discount the rumours about shikijika from poke jungle.