Announcement PU General Rules, Tiering, and Announcements Thread

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Hello everyone! Welcome to the PU tier, the official metagame below Neverused! Like any subforum, the PU forum has rules, and if you don't follow these rules at least to an extent, you are likely to receive an infraction.

The list of GLOBAL SMOGON RULES can be found here.

1) please ask an PU moderator before making a discussion thread:

I'd really like all of you to get approval from an PU moderator before creating a discussion thread. New ideas are nice, but it's usually a good idea to check in with a forum moderator before impulsively posting something that's of low quality, too similar to another project, or anything of the like. PU forum Moderators should be happy to help out with new discussions, and even if an idea isn't initially approved they might be able to help out with your thread to make it a bit more presentable before you post, which is good for you, us, and the people who will post in the thread in the future.

Currently the moderators of the PU forum are:
Specs (Tier Leader)
2xTheTap (Tier Leader)
tlenit

2) do not make discussion threads about specific Pokemon:

One of the first types of threads that usually pops up in these new forums are threads about specific Pokemon. I dislike these kind of threads, they die fast and really clutter up the forum. If you want to discuss a specific pokemon in detail, try on Discord or in the np thread.

Outside of this, these two general rules should keep you out of trouble:

Stay on topic and think before you post: this forum is about PU. Be polite, even when you disagree with someone.

Look over what you write: such a forgotten step, but very important. I can't even count the number of times people are misunderstood because the way they write doesn't make their intent clear. I've seen many posts quoted for one side of a debate when in reality it was meant to be an argument for the other. Not only is double checking the content important, but so is including the context of what and why you are posting what you are. People take stuff out of context ALL THE TIME; this makes it easier for you to go back and bring up the real facts, so that no one can just cherry-pick certain points and quotes.

The PU Council consists of:
2xTheTap
Specs
tlenit
HJAD
termi
Ktütverde
Chloe

PU Social
There are two main platforms for PU discussion, Discord and Pokemon Showdown.

Discord chat has plenty of players willing to help answer question, build teams, discuss the metagame and more, and also has an off-topic chat for non-PU specific discussion. Discord chat can be located here.

The PU Pokemon Showdown! room also has similar PU discussion and help with PU based questions/problems, and also has regular room tours. PU Pokemon Showdown! room can be located here.

The PU Tiering Method

Process
As with every tier, tiering begins with the beta stage. During the alpha stage, no bans or suspect tests occur. At the very beginning of PU Beta, the most blatantly overpowered elements of PU are quickbanned by the council. Anything that is voted ban with 60% support or more will be moved into PUBL. This process will repeat as often as needed and by the end of Beta we should have a playable metagame with the most glaring centralising forces removed. After some time, the council will begin to introduce banned Pokemon into the tier one at a time, each receiving its own suspect test. The goal is to remove problematic Pokemon as quickly as possible, but give them the chance to return later on once we have a more settled and developed metagame. We believe this process is the best as it allows the tier to become playable as soon as possible in order to keep the tier competitive, diverse, and fun to play.

Current Resources
SS PU Alpha Viability List
 
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Akir

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First SS PU Beta Council Vote

The Council voted on 11 Pokemon. More than 60% was needed to ban each Pokemon and that amounts to 6/9 ban votes.

Arctozolt: 6 PUBL / 1 PU / 2 Abstain
Arctovish: 6 PUBL / 3 PU
Swoobat: 6 PUBL / 3 PU
Throh: 1 PUBL / 8 PU
Noctowl: 3 PUBL / 5 PU / 1 Abstain
Ludicolo: 0 PUBL / 9 PU
Type Null: 2 PUBL / 7 PU
Stonjourner: 0 PUBL / 9 PU
Silvally-Ground: 5 PUBL / 4 PU
Silvally-Normal: 8 PUBL / 1 PU
Silvally-Fire: 3 PUBL / 5 PU / 1 Abstain


As a result, Arctozolt, Arctovish, Swoobat, and Silvally-Normal are now banned from PU. The Immortal thanks a lot if you could implement it on the server please!

:ss/arctozolt: :ss/Arctovish:
Arctozolt and Arctovish push wallbreaking to its limit, being practically uncounterable offensive behemoths capable of running varied sets and coverage moves because they only need a single attack to devastate nearly all switch-ins. Their typing and speed tier weren't exceptional but Bolt Beak and Fishious Rend simply hit way too hard no matter if it's a Life Orb, Choice Scarf, Choice Band, or other attacking set. Every team would need to run 6 faster Pokemon or pack an Electric and Water immunity and pray that they get every prediction correct, and that's simply too much to expect.


:ss/Swoobat:
Swoobat, with its ability Simple and excellent speed, stands as one of the most consistent setup sweepers in the format. Nasty Plot giving an unparalleled +4 in one turn makes it a fearsome wallbreaker, and the +2 to both SpAtk and SpDef from Calm Mind makes is both powerful and difficult to revenge kill. It is also possible to give Swoobat the Electric Seed item, effectively giving it +2 to Defense under Electric Terrain, which makes Swoobat even harder to revenge kill. This would all be potentially controllable if it weren't for the fact that Swoobat's natural base 114 Speed making it one of the fastest mons in the format. All of this combined leads to Swoobat being the best and most effective setup sweeper in the format.


:ss/Silvally:
Silvally-Normal's ability to hold an item pushed it past every other Silvally form in terms of wallbreaking potential. The tier has very few solid Normal-resists, and both Mawile and Stonjourner being very easy to bait and KO with Flamethrower and Surf respectively only exacerbates the issue. While not as devastatingly strong as Arctozolt/Arctovish or as problematic of a sweeper as Swoobat, the combination of being bulky, fast, powerful, and very versatile all at once pushes it past a tier where most Pokemon excel at only 2-3 of those characteristics.


Arctozolt:
PUBL: Megazard, Akir, Teddeh, Taskr, Specs, HJAD
PU: Sam I Yam
Abstain: 2xTheTap, TJ

Arctovish:
PUBL:
Megazard, Akir, Teddeh, Taskr, Specs, HJAD
PU: 2xTheTap, TJ, Sam I Yam

Swoobat:
PUBL:
2xTheTap, Akir, Teddeh, Taskr, Specs, HJAD
PU: Megazard, TJ, Sam I Yam

Throh:
PUBL:
2xTheTap
PU: Megazard, Akir, Teddeh, TJ, Taskr, Specs, HJAD, Sam I Yam

Noctowl:
PUBL:
Megazard, TJ, HJAD
PU: 2xTheTap, Teddeh, Taskr, Specs, Sam I Yam
Abstain: Akir

Ludicolo:
PUBL:
PU:
2xTheTap, Megazard, Akir, Teddeh, TJ, Taskr, Specs, HJAD, Sam I Yam

Type Null:
PUBL:
Specs, HJAD
PU: 2xTheTap, Megazard, Akir, Teddeh, TJ, Taskr, Specs, HJAD, Sam I Yam

Stonjourner:
PUBL:
PU:
2xTheTap, Megazard, Akir, Teddeh, TJ, Taskr, Specs, HJAD, Sam I Yam

Silvally-Ground:
PUBL:
Megazard, Akir, Teddeh, Taskr, HJAD
PU: 2xTheTap, TJ, Specs, Sam I Yam

Silvally-Normal:
PUBL:
2xTheTap, Megazard, Akir, TJ, Taskr, Specs, HJAD, Sam I Yam
PU: Teddeh

Silvally-Fire:
PUBL:
Megazard, Taskr, HJAD
PU: 2xTheTap, Teddeh, TJ, Specs, Sam I Yam
Abstain: Akir

RIP LST
 
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Second SS PU Beta Council Vote

The Council voted on 12 Pokemon. More than 60% was needed to ban each Pokemon and that amounts to 6/9 ban votes.

Ludicolo: 0 PUBL / 9 PU
Noctowl: 8 PUBL / 1PU
Pawniard: 1 PUBL / 8 PU
Silvally-Dragon: 4 PUBL / 5 PU
Silvally-Fire: 8 PUBL / 1PU
Silvally-Flying: 1 PUBL / 8 PU
Silvally-Ground: 8 PUBL / 1 PU
Stonjourner: 0 PUBL / 9 PU
Throh: 1 PUBL / 8 PU
Type Null: 0 PUBL / 9 PU
Vulpix: 5 PUBL / 4 PU
Vulpix-Alola: 3 PUBL / 6 PU

As a result: Noctowl, Silvally-Ground, and Silvally-Fire are now banned from PU. The Immortal thanks a lot if you could implement it on the server please!

:ss/Noctowl:
Noctowl quickly proved itself to be by far one of the best wallbreakers in the format, if not the best. Thanks to Tinted Lens, Nasty Plot, and Hurricane, Noctowl's list of switch-ins is exceedingly small and arguably non-existent. Choice Specs sets also have more than enough power to 2HKO most targets, even ones that resist Flying and Normal. This resulted in counterplay to Noctowl being realistically limited to Pokemon that were faster or Pokemon that were sidelined, teched, and played specifically for Noctowl. The council reached a near-absolute conclusion from this: Noctowl's overwhelming offensive pressure constricted teambuilding and defensive play far too much to be a healthy part of the metagame.


:ss/silvally ground:
Silvally Ground is an effective double-edged sword: it is excellent glue for rounding out many teams and making them more consistent, but is also extremely difficult for opponents to check as well. Multi-Attack on Silvally-Ground turns into a more powerful Earthquake that can be paired with Silvally's plethora of coverage options to make switching into it a challenge. Ice Beam, Rock Slide, and others are all such good coverage alongside Ground Multi-Attack that Silvally-Ground can effectively pick and choose its own counters. Combine all of this with U-Turn and Parting Shot, and you have a Pokemon that can pick which checks it can beat and can just U-Turn out on all others. Ultimately the council decided that what Silvally-Ground provided for the tier is overshadowed by the difficulty of stopping it.


:ss/Silvally Fire:
Much like its Ground-Type kin, Silvally-Fire is an offensive powerhouse that can pick and choose its own checks and counters. However, Silvally-Fire trades its some of its effective support qualities in favor of much more crushing offensive capabilities. Much of the reasoning was touched on for Silvally-Ground, but Silvally-Fire has arguably better coverage and STAB that is easier to pair with coverage. The council banned Silvally-Fire for a lot of the same reasons as Silvally-Ground: this is a Pokemon that can very easily and reliably pick and choose its own counters while still being an excellent wallbreaker.


You can view the Voting Record by clicking here!
 

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Third SS PU Beta Council Vote

The council voted on 2 Pokemon and did a separate slate to vote on Sun. More than 60% was needed to ban each Pokemon and that amounts to 6/9 ban votes.

Silvally-Dragon: 5 PUBL / 4 PU
Silvally-Flying: 9 PUBL / 0 PU

The voting on Sun was somewhat more complicated, I encourage anyone interested to check out the voting record linked below. Essentially, council members were given 5 options and asked to rank them from most preferred (1) to least preferred (5). The option with the lowest score was chosen. The lowest score ended up going to banning both Drought and Heat Rock.

Silvally-Flying, Drought, and Heat Rock are now banned from PU. The Immortal if you could please implement this.

:ss/silvally flying:
Silvally-Flying was simply the latest Silvally to step up as the biggest, most difficult to check offensive threat in the metagame. Multi Attack is incredible STAB and, like all problem Silvallies, its ability to simply Surf or Flamethrower any check away was too much. Flame Charge sweeping sets were also extremely overpowered, with Choice Scarf Manectric being just about the only Pokemon in the metagame capable of reliably revenge killing it after a boost. The tier simply lacks the details to check Pokemon with this combination of Speed, bulk, power, and set diversity.


After a long period of discussion, the PU council decided the best way to nerf Sun teams would be to ban both Drought and Heat Rock. Sun teams were unquestionably overpowered in the meta. Beating Sun came down to a matter of matchup, either your team had very specific checks to handle extremely powerful Sun sweepers like Leafeon or Ivysaur, or it didn't and you just lost. Given how few Pokemon are capable of surviving a Leafeon with 5 turns of Sun still left, this was clearly an issue.

Our goal was to lay down a single ban that could handle Sun for as long as possible, rather than banning only one broken aspect of Sun and needing to nerf another aspect of it later. Because of this, banning individual Pokemon on the playstyle would not be ideal. In order to sufficiently nerf Sun, you would have to ban Leafeon, Ivysaur, and Maractus, at least to start. After that Sun could still potentially be an issue with manual setters like Liepard providing support for powerful but currently lesser seen sweepers like Gloom. Similarly, only banning Drought was deemed to be insufficient. Manual setting is not valuable as Vulpix's ability to set Sun just by switching in, but it's still far too effective. Sun would continue to have a negative effect on the tier. Only banning Heat Rock might be slightly better, but it's still not enough. Manually setting Sun and being able to set it at least once automatically with Vulpix is too much leeway to give Sun teams. The issue is that too many Pokemon are too powerful under the weather, a significant nerf was needed to prevent them from becoming overpowering.

Banning Drought and Heat Rock will nerf Sun enough to where it is not unhealthy. 3-4 turns of Sun that need to be manually reset simply isn't enough for Pokemon like Leafeon to become broken or unfair under. It also avoids the collateral damage of needing to remove otherwise balanced Pokemon from the meta, like Leafeon and Gloom. We believe this is the best way to both stop Sun teams from being overpowered and settle the issue for the foreseeable future.


View the Voting Record here!
 

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Fourth SS PU Beta Council Vote

The Council voted on 12 Pokemon. More than 60% was needed to ban each Pokemon and that amounts to 6/9 ban votes.

Appletun: 9 PUBL / 0 PU
Crustle: 0 PUBL / 9 PU
Dubwool: 2 PUBL / 7 PU
Falinks: 5 PUBL / 4 PU
Glaceon: 2 PUBL / 7 PU
Mr. Rime: 4 PUBL / 5 PU
Pawniard: 2 PUBL / 7 PU
Silvally-Fighting: 6 PUBL / 3 PU
Silvally-Poison: 9 PUBL / 0 PU

As a result: Appletun, Silvally-Fighting, and Silvally-Poison are now banned from PU. The Immortal thanks a lot if you could implement it on the server please!

:ss/appletun:
Appletun was a complete menace offensively and defensively. Apple Acid made for an incredible STAB move since few defensive checks can withstand constant Special Defense drops. Add on 100 SpA Draco Meteors and you've got something capable of breaking 90% of the tier without much effort. Defensively, Appletun had few weaknesses and excellent resistances (bolstered by Thick Fat) plus access to multiple amazing utility moves in Iron Defense, Amnesia, Leech Seed, and Recover. Very few Pokemon could claim to be able to reliably KO all defensive sets, with Body Press being a final nail in the coffin that could nail the occasional Steel- and Ice-types trying to switch in.


:ss/silvally-poison: :ss/silvally-fighting:
Silvally-Poison and Silvally-Fighting both sported incredibly powerful STAB attacks, solid boosting options in Flame Charge and Swords Dance, fantastic bulk and Speed, and the ability to break practically every potential counter with very slight moveset variations that had little impact to their wallbreaking ability. Special sets also began to take off as potent lures to the few would-be counters, cementing their place as the next two overpowered Silvally forms to be banned.


View the Voting Record here!
 

Akir

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This post is meant to keep up with Council Minutes and Updates. This should be updated over time to properly document all of them.

  1. May 18th Update, Dubwool Meta + D Rank
  2. May 25th Update, Pre-PUPL #1
  3. June 2nd Update, June Drops + Pre-PUPL #2
  4. June 8th Update, G-Rap, Golurk, and the Pre-PUPL Meta
  5. June 15th Update, Waiting in Pre-DLC Limbo
  6. June 25th Update, The Post-DLC Meta
  7. June 29th Update, Thievul Ban
  8. July 7th Update, Rotom-Frost and Orbeetle Ban
  9. July 14th Update, Kangaskhan and Butterfree Ban
  10. July 27th Update, The Vote Where Nothing Got Banned
  11. August 3rd Update, PU Going Forward
  12. August 10th Update, Minor Stuff
  13. August 17th Update, Minor Stuff 2
  14. August 31st Update, 2 weeks in 1
  15. September 7th Update, Klinklang Thoughts
  16. September 14th Update, Continued Ban Discussion
  17. September 21st Update, Klinklang and Bouffalant Ban
  18. September 30th Update, Meta Limbo
  19. October 5th Update, October Votes
  20. October 12th Update, Upcoming Quickvote Details
  21. October 19th Update, Pre-Tundra
  22. October 27th Update, Tundra NFE's and Pre-Tier Shift
  23. November 9th Update, Post DLC Bans + PUWC Stuff
  24. November 16th Update, Silvally-Dragon Ban and 11/15 Drops
  25. November 22nd Update, Drampa Vote + PUWC/CPL Stuff
  26. November 30th Update, pre-December Shift
  27. December 9th Update, December Shifts
  28. December 14th Update, pre-surprise mid-December shift
  29. December 22nd Update, It's a whole new tier (Mid-December shift)
  30. December 28th Update, Underrated Threats and preparing for January Shift
  31. January 11th Update, Tier Shift + Big Vote + New VR + Next Vote/Suspect + Analyses + many tours
  32. January 18th Update, Virizion Suspect + Circuit continuing
  33. January 25th Update, How are we feeling about Virizion?
  34. February 2nd Update, Virizion stays
  35. February 9th Update, Some VR stuff I suppose
  36. February 15th Update, General meta thoughts
  37. February 22nd Update, Quiet week
  38. April 7th Update, April Shift + the post-Virizion ban meta and the move back to quickban slates
  39. May 5th Update, May Shift + returning Hail abusers and upcoming tours
 
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Fifth SS PU Beta Council Vote

The Council voted on 8 Pokemon. More than 60% was needed to ban each Pokemon and that amounts to 5/8 ban votes.

Galarian Rapidash: 7 PUBL / 1 PU
Golurk: 5 PUBL / 2 PU / 1 Abstain
Mr. Rime: 1 PUBL / 7 PU
Dubwool: 0 PUBL / 8 PU
Silvally-Bug: 3 PUBL / 5 PU
Silvally-Psychic: 1 PUBL / 7 PU
Silvally-Grass: 4 PUBL / 4 PU
Silvally-Electric: 1 PUBL / 7 PU

As a result: Galarian Rapidash and Golurk are now banned from PU. Kris thanks a lot if you could implement it on the server please!

:ss/rapidash-galar:
Galarian Rapidash outsped nearly the entire unboosted meta and could run both physical and special sweeping sets with near perfect coverage. Swords Dance sets were functional for cleaning and breaking, but special sets really shone due to the oppressive nature of Fairy+Psychic+Fire-type coverage in the current metagame. Grassy Seed Stored Power sets also started taking off due to how quickly it could accrue defensive boosts and become extremely difficult to revenge kill, bolstered by its immunity to Toxic. Reliable counterplay was simply too inconsistent to warrant keeping Galarian Rapidash in the metagame.


:ss/golurk:
Golurk benefitted massively from the near complete lack of Ground immunities in this generation of PU. Simply by running 2-3 of Earthquake, Ice Punch, Heat Crash, or Stone Edge, Golurk had perfect coverage on the metagame. There was very little pressure on Golurk to nail correct predictions as resists and general counterplay was pretty limited. The few solid resists to Golurk could also be worn down somewhat easily for the most part in just a couple of interactions. Choice Band sets had a safe move to click to break entire teams in almost every matchup. This also greatly benefitted its Rock Polish sets, as did the fact that most common revenge killers fare extremely poorly versus its unique type combination. While Golurk was fairly easy to revenge kill, its risk-reward was still off the charts.


View the Voting Record here!
 

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The PU Council has unanimously decided to ban Porygon2, Magneton, and Scyther. We won't even consider these another full beta vote, they got here as a byproduct of our DLC tiering system that had every single NFE start in PU regardless of power level and are they're clearly far too much for the tier to handle. The Immortal Kris
 

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Sixth SS PU Beta Council Vote

The council voted on 16 Pokemon. More than 60% was needed to ban each Pokemon and that amounts to 5/7 ban votes. Specs opted to not participate in this vote due to him stepping down.

This is normally where we summarize all of the votes and put some aggregate council reasoning, but due to the sheer volume of what we're dealing with and also a significant amount of interest demonstrated in individual council member reasonings, I will instead simply link to our voting sheet which contains how each council member voted on each Pokemon and why. It is never ideal to vote on this many Pokemon all at once, but DLC put the tier in an extremely awkward position and we felt immediate, large-scale corrections were required.

As a result of this vote, Basculin, Hitmontop, Gourgeist, Gourgeist-Large, Gourgeist-Super, Silvally-Bug, Silvally-Psychic, Silvally-Grass, and Silvally-Electric are now banned from SS PU. Tagging Kris or The Immortal to implement this on the server, please and thank you!

Edit: Actually I will do a little vote summary, here is an easy breakdown of how many ban/no ban/abstain votes each Pokemon got, sorted from most to least ban votes.
Silvally-Bug: 7 PUBL / 0 PU / 0 Abstain (Sam later expressed he meant to vote ban)
Silvally-Psychic: 7 PUBL / 0 PU / 0 Abstain
Silvally-Grass: 7 PUBL / 0 PU / 0 Abstain
Silvally-Electric: 7 PUBL / 0 PU / 0 Abstain
Basculin: 7 PUBL / 0 PU / 0 Abstain

Hitmontop: 6 PUBL / 1 PU / 0 Abstain
Gourgeist-Normal: 6 PUBL / 0 PU / 1 Abstain
Gourgeist-Large: 6 PUBL / 0 PU / 1 Abstain
Gourgeist-Super: 6 PUBL / 0 PU / 1 Abstain

Trevenant: 4 PUBL / 1 PU / 2 Abstain
Silvally-Rock: 4 PUBL / 3 PU / 0 Abstain

Thievul: 2 PUBL / 5 PU / 0 Abstain

Silvally-Ice: 1 PUBL / 6 PU / 0 Abstain

Pincurchin: 0 PUBL / 7 PU / 0 Abstain
Tangela: 0 PUBL / 7 PU / 0 Abstain
Kadabra: 0 PUBL / 7 PU / 0 Abstain
 
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Seventh SS PU Beta Council Vote

The Council voted on only 1 Pokemon this time. More than 60% was needed to ban each Pokemon and that amounts to 5/8 ban votes.

Thievul: 8 PUBL / 0 PU

As a result: Thievul is now banned from PU. The Immortal or Kris thanks a lot if you could implement it on the server please!

As is now the norm, you can view all of the votes for this vote right here on this sheet. Council was planning to not have any votes until the shift in a few days, but Thievul's presence in the metagame was deemed too unhealthy for another PUPL week and PU Open Round 1. Here is to hoping that the July shift is kind to us!
 

Akir

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With the DLC fully hitting us and giving us basically a new tier, the PU Council opted to vote on the current PUBL list to better adjust to the new "power level" of the tier. The council voted on 17 Pokemon. More than 60% was needed to ban each Pokemon and that amounts to 5/8 ban votes.
Appletun: 0 PUBL / 8 PU
Arctozolt: 6 PUBL / 2 PU
Gourgeist-Normal: 0 PUBL / 8 PU
Gourgeist-Large: 0 PUBL / 8 PU
Noctowl: 5 PUBL / 3 PU
Rapidash-G: 1 PUBL / 7 PU
Swoobat: 0 PUBL / 8 PU
Thievul: 2 PUBL / 6 PU
Silvally-Normal: 8 PUBL / 0 PU
-Bug: 5 PUBL / 3 PU
-Electric: 5 PUBL / 3 PU
-Fighting: 7 PUBL / 1 PU
-Flying: 8 PUBL / 0 PU
-Grass: 5 PUBL / 3 PU
-Ground: 8 PUBL / 0 PU
-Poison: 6 PUBL / 2 PU
-Psychic: 6 PUBL / 2 PU


With this vote, Appletun, Gourgeist-Normal, Gourgeist-Large, Rapidash-Galar, Swoobat, and Thievul are now back in PU! The Immortal or Kris thanks a lot if you could implement it on the server please!

Additionally, even though it is not a PU vote, NU banned Tauros. Tauros was in PU up until today and was expected to be slated for a ban vote sometime very soon, so it is noteworthy enough to go along with this post.

As is now the norm, you can view all of the votes for this vote right here on this sheet. None of these changes are going to affect any current ongoing rounds of any tournaments, but you can expect them to be fully implemented come next week.
 

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Ninth SS PU Beta Council Vote

The council voted on 5 Pokemon. More than 60% was needed to ban each Pokemon and that amounts to 5/8 ban votes.
Butterfree: 1 PUBL / 7 PU
Kangaskhan: 0 PUBL / 8 PU
Perrserker: 3 PUBL / 5 PU
Rotom-Frost: 8 PUBL / 0 PU
Orbeetle: 5 PUBL / 3 PU


With this vote, Rotom-Frost and Orbeetle are now banned from PU! The Immortal or Kris thanks a lot if you could implement it on the server please!

As is now the norm, you can view all of the votes for this vote right here on this sheet. However, in stark contrast to the norm, PUPL will actually have these bans implemented to the current week immediately (as voted on by the teams themselves). Kickoff and PU Open will wait until the next round to see these changes however.

I also feel the need to add an extra note at the bottom here to state that we plan to go back to public votes ASAP. Hopefully we will get a long enough break in tier changes to make that happen soon.
 

Akir

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Tenth SS PU Beta Council Vote

The council voted on 7 Pokemon. More than 60% was needed to ban each Pokemon and that amounts to 5/8 ban votes.
Butterfree: 8 PUBL / 0 PU
Gapidash: 2 PUBL / 6 PU
Hattrem: 1 PUBL / 7 PU
Kangaskhan: 6 PUBL / 2 PU
Klinklang: 0 PUBL / 8 PU
Ninjask: 4 PUBL / 4 PU
Perrserker: 3 PUBL / 5 PU


With this vote, Butterfree and Kangaskhan are now banned from PU! The Immortal or Kris thanks a lot if you could implement it on the server please!

As is now the norm, you can view all of the votes for this vote right here on this sheet.
 

Akir

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Eleventh SS PU Beta Council Vote

The council voted on 5 Pokemon. More than 60% was needed to ban each Pokemon and that amounts to 5/8 ban votes.
Appletun: 1 PUBL / 6 PU / 1 Abstain
Exeggutor: 7 PUBL / 1 PU
Gapidash: 2 PUBL / 6 PU
Ninjask: 7 PUBL / 1 PU
Perrserker: 5 PUBL / 3 PU


With this vote, Exeggutor, Ninjask, and Perrserker are now banned from PU! The Immortal or Kris thanks a lot if you could implement it on the server please!

As is now the norm, you can view all of the votes for this vote right here on this sheet.
 

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Twelfth SS PU Beta Council Vote

The council voted on 4 Pokemon. More than 60% was needed to ban each Pokemon and that amounts to 5/7 ban votes. Note that Taskr did not participate due to being extremely busy between irl and picking up PUPL managing duties.
Galarian Rapidash: 2 PUBL / 5 PU
Thievul: 4 PUBL / 3 PU
Drifblim: 1 PUBL / 5 PU / 1 Abstain
Appletun: 7 PU

And with this vote, nothing was banned!

As always, we have a voting sheet that shows how each council member voted and provides reasoning as to why. This is stated in the reasoning below their votes but I'd like to be extra clear here because people might miss that- the blanket do not ban votes from Tlenit, 2xTheTap, and Akir all are due to them not feeling the need to ban anything combined with wanting to wait for shifts. That's just blanket reasoning for all of those votes, none of the Pokemon seemed too problematic to them and there was a desire to not mess with the tier more right now.
 

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August SS PU Beta Council Quickvote

The council voted on 5 Pokemon and 1 item. More than 60% was needed to ban each Pokemon and that amounts to 5/7 ban votes. Taskr once again had to skip this vote.
Flapple: 7 PUBL / 0 PU
Gapidash or G-Rap or Gony or Gorse or Galardash or PU Rapidash: 1 PUBL / 5 PU / 1 Abstain
Morpeko: 2 PUBL / 3 PU / 2 Abstain
Thievul: 5 PUBL / 2 PU
Gourgeist-Super (Unban Vote): 0 PUBL / 7 PU
Heat Rock (Unban Vote): 7 PUBL / 0 PU


With this vote, Flapple and Thievul are now banned from PU, and Gourgeist-Super is unbanned! The Immortal or Kris thanks a lot if you could implement it on the server please!

As is now the norm, you can view all of the votes for this vote right here on this sheet.
 
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Akir

A true villain!
is a Community Contributoris a Tiering Contributoris a Battle Simulator Driveris a Community Leader Alumnus
September SS PU Beta Council Quickvote

The council voted on 5 Pokemon. More than 60% was needed to ban each Pokemon and that amounts to 5/7 ban votes.
Watervally: 6 PUBL / 1 PU
Bouffalant: 1 PUBL / 5 PU / 1 Abstain
Klinklang: 3 PUBL / 4 PU
Throh: 2 PUBL / 5 PU
Lilligant: 0 PUBL / 7 PU


With this vote, Silvally-Water is now banned from PU! The Immortal or Kris thanks a lot if you could implement it on the server please!

As is now the norm, you can view all of the votes for this vote right here on this sheet.
 
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