New Wellspring check? That’s actually kinda shiest. I must say though, it cant really do much when it Teras…
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Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4
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what could possibly be more insane? Because something absolutely insane would have to happen to send OU into a frenzy
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He is actually unbanning unrestricted Baton Pass in order to make Toxapex and the big Stall (Haze, Roar, Unaware, etc.) better. Big Stall always has to win.
Edit: I am actually in favor of this, since all the Eeveelutions are good Baton Pass users, especially Espeon.
Till are one (and this thread starts being civil)
Cobalion @ Leftovers
Ability: Justified
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 252 HP / 16 SpD / 240 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Calm Mind
- Iron Defense
- Body Press
- Flash Cannon
Today i have done something horrid, whether or not i’ve brought this up is something i do not know, but i do know, is that we should be running experiments for this to test if its a bulky sweeper that is fine with being forced out or am iron boulder level fraud.
regardless, its important to note that it so far matchups AMAZING against kingambit, matchups well against Darkrai, galarian slowking, corviknight and weavile, but has bad match ups against zapdos and pelipper and gets demolished by moltres but this is from speculation and two tests, so i’ll update you on this sheist
Cobalion @ Leftovers
Ability: Justified
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 252 HP / 16 SpD / 240 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Calm Mind
- Iron Defense
- Body Press
- Flash Cannon
Today i have done something horrid, whether or not i’ve brought this up is something i do not know, but i do know, is that we should be running experiments for this to test if its a bulky sweeper that is fine with being forced out or am iron boulder level fraud.
regardless, its important to note that it so far matchups AMAZING against kingambit, matchups well against Darkrai, galarian slowking, corviknight and weavile, but has bad match ups against zapdos and pelipper and gets demolished by moltres but this is from speculation and two tests, so i’ll update you on this sheist
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oh god not espypass
gotta love how espeon and scolipede were some of the biggest offenders in getting baton pass banned
i have confirmation that it is in fact something. in fact, i know exactly what it is, but i'm not telling, it'll be more fun to see everyone's reaction when it happens
^ he probably doesn’t know
Yeah yeah Finch's plan might be a movement to change the future of OU but can it handle +2 Adamant Tera Dark Blackglasses Sucker Punch (Fallen: 5)
he does know shockingly, daddybuzzwole has connections
And he said from a scale to 1-10 on how crazy this is he said what is gonna happen is like an 8 when I asked him, so something absolutely absurd is about to happen and I am here for it
Can confirm, I'm one of the people who told daddybuzzwole what Finch is planning. I would tell everyone as well but I like his philosophy so I'd rather see everyone's reaction when it happens
Okay I think I probably know what it is or an idea of what it is shaping up to be as of right now and I cannot wait to watch the sheer chaos and hilarity of the aftermath of what is about to happen
You all are in for a wild ride
You all are in for a wild ride
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If content creators are involved like he said, I imagine it’s something that only high level players will actually participate in/benefit from like a tournament where a bunch of them make videos or one on one interviews in a podcast type situation.
If people are chomping at the bit to speculate on something, why not make calls on the VR placements that are dropping tommorow based on things like who's the No#1 'mon, who leaving the rankings, the order of big five, etc. as the each council members's votes may be similar, but have subtle differences that make exact placements a toss up.
On that note, I'd like to talk about
as even though the standard offensive sets have problems getting past Zama (unless you commit to tera blast), I feel like there's more this 'mon is capable of as evidenced by Finch's Red card Darkrai set in SCL.
On that note, I'd like to talk about
as even though the standard offensive sets have problems getting past Zama (unless you commit to tera blast), I feel like there's more this 'mon is capable of as evidenced by Finch's Red card Darkrai set in SCL.
All I'm gonna say is that If that utter fraud Rillaboom isn't dropping even more subranks then something's wrong. Gets trolled by Moltres and Zapdos even without their abilities instantly screwing it over, and it's an extremely fake Wellspring check due to getting popped by Power Whip thanks to its own terrain. Easily the most fraudulent 'mon tiered in OU right now.
Oh, and Samu-H is lowkey S- material. Brainless Edge on top
IMO clefable is rising up to A-, and mola might rise to A+ now that people are finding out just how much it enables. Rocks-weak mons are less reliant on boots and mons that previously suffered from this reliance such as lokix are starting to find their time in the spotlight.
Take this with a grain of salt though, A is a pretty solid spot for mola (although I fell that undersells it a little) and B+ is much more likely for clef.
That fuckass otter is definitely going up to s- though
Take this with a grain of salt though, A is a pretty solid spot for mola (although I fell that undersells it a little) and B+ is much more likely for clef.
That fuckass otter is definitely going up to s- though
As much as i hate that this may happen, i think primarina may drop down. It has very hard competition as a av user with crown and glowking, not to mention how it can just be popped by ogerpon, bolt, and kyurem. Bulky cm tends to be really weak unless you get multiple boosts, and offensive cm is usually too slow to make a difference. Maybe experimenting with new spreads could work though
you cannot tell me with a straight face that rillaboom is more fraudulent than meowscarada. at least what rilla does is entirely unique if nothing else
252+ Atk Choice Band Rillaboom Wood Hammer vs. 252 HP / 88 Def Zamazenta in Grassy Terrain: 334-394 (86 - 101.5%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Rillaboom Wood Hammer vs. 252 HP / 88 Def Zamazenta in Grassy Terrain: 334-394 (86 - 101.5%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO
These don't look like fraud numbers to me lol
Say it with me
Game is not just damage calcs.
Rilla gets ripped up by the hazards that bulkier teams can stack and thus it ends up worn down way too quickly, on top of being heavily prediction dependent due to the common presence of Zapdos and Moltres on these teams as well as Corv which has regained usage, all stuffing any wood hammer spamming attempts. Rilla also can’t switch into much of anything comfortably, and its fabled priority thuds into way too many things on offense to be truly all that reliable. Unless I missed something recent, Mon hasn’t really had success worth mentioning for a while and it just isn’t really a good Mon right now.
(also not sure why you called Zama when the comment you replied to specifically mentioned Moltres and Zapdos).
Of course the game isn't just about damage calcs. However you can't deny that wood hammer is extremely strong against pokemon that aren't zapdos moltres or corviknight (or any other bulky grass resist of which there aren't that many). It obviously isn't loving hazards but it doesn't take worse than neutral damage from stealth rock and other than that it has plenty of pokemon it can switch in on. It can switch in on defensive gliscor walking wake (though admittedly I am not sure how much damage dragon pulse does) and let's not forget the other 7 VIABLE GROUND TYPES IN THE TIER (except clodsire). So while I won't argue that rillaboom is pretty mid in this tier it is not a fraud.
Also the reason I mentioned Zamazenta is because it is easily the best bulky offensive pokemon in the tier so rillaboom doing that to it is kind of insane.