SR 2x *resist
Anyway,the only two things I can think of that can reliably counter him is Claydol and Goruggo(Ground/Ghost) :/
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SR 2x *resist
Anyway,the only two things I can think of that can reliably counter him is Claydol and Goruggo(Ground/Ghost) :/
Thanks for trolling me. Anyways, he should have specified that when he did the calculations. Also, if you think about this logically: Sandstorm+sand veil+brightpowder+low accuracy stone edge=win. I mean, seriously, what are the odds of stone edge hitting twice in a row?? Nice try, terakion.
Many Gliscor now run Poison Heal over Sand Veil, nobody in their right mind would put Brightpowder on him, and SS is not necessarily up. So yeah, with what you suggest it is likely that Gliscor will make SE miss, but the chances of that situation happening are quite low. Since Tera can beat Gliscor Poison Heal Gliscor accounting for one Protect, he can also do the same to Sand Veil ones if one SE misses and Gliscor does not OHKO him, which he will not do without significant Atk investment.
Poison heal is useless unless you want a long stall war, which I don't. Rock attacks are pretty much the only physical attacks that really threaten him, and they have incredibly low accuracy. When you combine that with sand veil and brightpowder, hax will not be on your side. Also, gliscor doesn't need to OHKO him, as he will still 2HKO him anyways.
You clearly don't know how to play if you think poison heal is for "long stall wars". Poison heal is clearly the superior ability because you are immune to status, and get better recovery than leftovers. You are even dumber if you run brightpowder gliscor, at the very least run leftovers if you want sand veil. Besides, if terakion is running balloon, used swords dance on the switch in (which is very likely to happen) terakion efficiently 2hkod you before you killed it.
You should probably start playing the game before you make rash, horrible arguments like you just did.
Why don't you just test the set out for yourself, and then tell me how often stone you get the 2HKO with stone edge. Also, brightpowder is not absolutely necessary, I only mentioned it to prove that you really can avoid a 2HKO if you wanted to.
I use the Double set up Terakion set and lots of other people use it.
What's there to test?
Terakion laughs at Gliscor.
+2 Stone Edge can already 2HKO,and if he decides to protect to gain more health,you can either SD or RP and just become unstoppable.
Terakion is insanely powerful and just because you can use such a gimmicky set to "beat" him,it doesn't change the fact that even dedicated walls can't stop him.
Yeah, if BOTH attacks hit. Good luck with that.
Choice Specs Draco Meteor from Latias is a 2HKO on Terakion in a sandstorm, but only if both of the attacks hit. Good luck with that.
What is the accuracy of stone edge in a sandstorm?? On top of that, what is the accuracy when you factor in sand veil??
Your Gliscor's survival depends ENTIRELY on a move that has MORE than 50% even with Sand Veil.
How exactly is Gliscor going to stop him?
Okay, what's the accuracy when gliscor has a brightpowder??
Suppose we grant that Sand Veil/Brightpowder is more useful in this situation. What about all the other situations where Poison Heal/Fling/Acrobat is better? Are you really going to make yourself worse at everything else just to be better at a luck-based strategy against one Pokémon?
What is the accuracy of the attack?? Also, stone edge is a very popular move in OU, so terakion isn't the only pokemon this will be useful against.
So that's Landorus,Terakion,and a few other mons which the Poison Heal version handles better....how exactly are you handling them at all?
The accuracy wont even matter. He'll still 2HKO while unless you invest in attack,you're barely be able to 2HKO him back.
You'll also suck in anything other than sand.
In sand with Brightpowder: 31.36% chance of both attacks hitting
In sand without Brightpowder: 40.96%
Out of sand with Brightpowder: 51.84%
Out of sand without Brightpowder: 64%
Also, lots of Stone Edge users will have a more accurate coverage move anyway, such as Kabutops's Waterfall, so you can't always count on it.
in my short stint in using tera, he was kinda underwhelming, mostly because yes you frequently get a kill, but then you get revenged by scizor, roob, azumarill... that and you're using stone edge, the move, like focus blast, that the description all but says: will miss when actually matters. though, i don't really know teh dest way for stall to handle him... donphan might but i kinda doubt it
I think teh dest way to use him is as a double dancer, as while things with wildly strong priority can kill him, it is relatively simple to take them out before your attempted sweep
That.
Nothing can sweep as long as their counters are still alive.
It's like trying to sweep with Garchomp without first killing Latios.(He can switch on SD,EQ,or Fire Fang/Blast :P)
Countering the whole metagame with 6 pokemon is a hard (if not impossible) task.
Doing that with 5 pokemon + gliscor to counter (lol) stone edgers is obviously harder. Specially if one of these 5 pokemon cant be Gliscor (for obvious reasons), who is one of the major defensive threats in this Gen.
C'mon, saying that you should use a gimmicky set to counter a single set is wanting to die. Are you using 252 HP/252 Sdef Blissey just to counter, say, NP PZ?
There are better options. Bulky Conkell and Techniloom with nice support come to mind.
Doing that with 5 pokemon + gliscor to counter (lol) stone edgers is obviously harder. Specially if one of these 5 pokemon cant be Gliscor (for obvious reasons), who is one of the major defensive threats in this Gen.
C'mon, saying that you should use a gimmicky set to counter a single set is wanting to die. Are you using 252 HP/252 Sdef Blissey just to counter, say, NP PZ?
There are better options. Bulky Conkell and Techniloom with nice support come to mind.
haha
@limitchell0012: Using a gimmicky set that doesn't even work 30% of the time just to beat Terakion is dumb. What I'm getting from your posts is that we are supposed to say 'Gliscor counters Terakion unless both of his +2 Stone Edges actually hit, in which case it dies, but it'll usually miss bcos of Sand Veil and BrightPowder.' This is like saying that Jirachi counters, say, unless it doesn't flinch with Iron Head.
Not to mention Poison Heal is superior in so many ways it's not even funny.
