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Also 2 Gens of absence in a row would be when they start pushing things for me, though there is a fairly small roster of mons where that is the case as of now so I'll let it pass until Gen 10.
I agree to this but only to some degree.

In the current state, yes I'd be a tiny bit annoyed if by the end of gen 9 we don't have the entire pokedex available in a Switch game.
However, with the dex continuing to expand and not looking like ending, assuming the current scenario is kept (thus without considering legendaries, only between half and 2/3rds of the available pokemon are actually available in a given gen), it may eventually come to a point where even having 700 mons per gen wouldn't cut it because 700 wouldn't even be half of the pokemon available, and certain mons may skip 2 gens in a row.

(That said you know my generic unpopular opinion about Dexit, which is, portability shouldn't have ever been a thing in first place and introducing portability in gen 4 was a shortsighted mistake)
 
"I love Dark-type Pokémon because they're so strong. Also, only selfish people think of Pokémon as strong or weak".

She's a Dark-type Specialist, is it surprising she's a hypocrite?

You're telling me the woman who wouldn't use a Sneasel until it evolved despite being a Johto Dark specialist is full of shit?

Well obviously she likes Weavile but doesn't like Sneasel.
 
I also find the perspective on "overshadowing" in viability/popularity overblown, because most Mega receivers were either already popular designs that were never going to go away, or they were mons who, while they had favorites of course, were borderline non-existent in terms of merchandise or fan presence until a Mega brought them attention. In terms of merch a lot of mons like Mawile or Sableye didn't exactly have much presence before their Megas got them into the club, and if we're talking viability, no one in VGC or Singles gave half a hoot about Charizard until the Megas, so it was less "overshadowed" and more "worth acknowledging in the first place" under that particular criteria. So it's not like you went from "Some Mawile Merch to all Mega and no Base", the base form didn't really have much attention or discussion on it to be overshadowed in the first place without Mega Coattails to ride.
I mean, I don't mind if my favourite Pokemon have next to no fan presence or merchandise. Like it's not going to fill me with pride to see my special little guy finally being appreciated by the fanbase. My ability to enjoy my favourites is completely independent of anyone else's opinion on them (except when I like a design partially because it's funny how much other people hate it)

I'm not going to pretend any of this is a real problem, but my point was simply that sudden Mega-induced popularity for your favourite mon is slightly annoying if you don't really like the Mega, in the same way that it's slightly annoying when your favourite artist releases an album you don't really like that catapults them from a successful-but-under-the-radar career into mainstream popularity. There's this inextricable popular association between the thing you love and this thing you don't particularly care for.
 
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I'm not going to pretend any of this is a real problem, but my point was simply that sudden Mega-induced popularity for your favourite mon is slightly annoying if you don't really like the Mega, in the same way that it's slightly annoying when your favourite artist releases an album you don't really like that catapults them from a successful-but-under-the-radar career into mainstream popularity. There's this inextricable popular association between the thing you love and this thing you don't particularly care for.

I think that's just kind of the thing that comes with adding onto things that already exist. Even before Megas we had this happen a lot with the traditional cross-gen evolutions.

While from a battling standpoint even back then new evolutions were an upgrade to an already existing Pokemon to make them stronger, at the same time from a design standpoint many of them were divisive among fans over the years. Like Rhyperior for instance was quite heavily divisive as a design among fans ever since it existed, being added onto the rather popular Rhyhorn line. Many people like Rhydon but a lot of people who liked Rhydon weren't so warm to Rhyperior, feeling there was a dissonance between it and Rhydon or that Rhyperior's design lost a lot of what made Rhydon's design great to them. Many of the Gen 4 ones for instance were pretty divisive among many fans, particularly the likes of Magmortar, Probopass, Lickilicky, and whatnot. I know Magmortar is kinda not very warmly received in particular.

You had some who were pretty well received from a design standpoint like Electivire and Weavile, while others...really didn't totally take off. Not because they were inherently bad per se, but because they were adding onto something that already existed and in many cases, many people liked them, so some fans were not happy with seeing a design that rubbed them the wrong way being attached as an evolved form of a Pokemon that they really liked over the years.

Even now with them doing some cross-gen evolutions every now and then in recent games (and even with regional forms) this kind of stuff happens. Kingambit for instance is a strong evolution of Bisharp and is an incredibly strong Pokemon, but I know quite a few people who have said that they weren't satisfied with how Kingambit turned out or some people who felt that it wasn't really necessary (I myself like Kingambit even if it's attached to Bisharp who has been a long time favorite of mine). I know a lot of people who were dissatisfied with Dudunsparce as an evolution to Dunsparce. Meanwhile regional forms have always been a YMMV due to being associated with mons that already exist.

There's always a bit of a your mileage may vary in that regard when you add something to a thing that already existed. On one hand these things can improve a mon that needs it from a gameplay standpoint, but from a design standpoint many people may or may not take well to seeing these additions to something that already existed that they like, especially if it rubs them the wrong way relative to the original thing.
 
I think that's just kind of the thing that comes with adding onto things that already exist. Even before Megas we had this happen a lot with the traditional cross-gen evolutions.

While from a battling standpoint even back then new evolutions were an upgrade to an already existing Pokemon to make them stronger, at the same time from a design standpoint many of them were divisive among fans over the years. Like Rhyperior for instance was quite heavily divisive as a design among fans ever since it existed, being added onto the rather popular Rhyhorn line. Many people like Rhydon but a lot of people who liked Rhydon weren't so warm to Rhyperior, feeling there was a dissonance between it and Rhydon or that Rhyperior's design lost a lot of what made Rhydon's design great to them. Many of the Gen 4 ones for instance were pretty divisive among many fans, particularly the likes of Magmortar, Probopass, Lickilicky, and whatnot. I know Magmortar is kinda not very warmly received in particular.

You had some who were pretty well received from a design standpoint like Electivire and Weavile, while others...really didn't totally take off. Not because they were inherently bad per se, but because they were adding onto something that already existed and in many cases, many people liked them, so some fans were not happy with seeing a design that rubbed them the wrong way being attached as an evolved form of a Pokemon that they really liked over the years.

Even now with them doing some cross-gen evolutions every now and then in recent games (and even with regional forms) this kind of stuff happens. Kingambit for instance is a strong evolution of Bisharp and is an incredibly strong Pokemon, but I know quite a few people who have said that they weren't satisfied with how Kingambit turned out or some people who felt that it wasn't really necessary (I myself like Kingambit even if it's attached to Bisharp who has been a long time favorite of mine). I know a lot of people who were dissatisfied with Dudunsparce as an evolution to Dunsparce. Meanwhile regional forms have always been a YMMV due to being associated with mons that already exist.

There's always a bit of a your mileage may vary in that regard when you add something to a thing that already existed. On one hand these things can improve a mon that needs it from a gameplay standpoint, but from a design standpoint many people may or may not take well to seeing these additions to something that already existed that they like, especially if it rubs them the wrong way relative to the original thing.
Truth be told, the reason many people didn’t like their designs are mostly due to nostalgia bias, and the massive fanabse means an ever clashing “don’t fix what’s not broken” or “I want something new” mentalities doesn’t help their case, making the fanbase come off as ungrateful. While I can see where people are coming from with Rhyperior and Magmortar and the likes, I fail to see why some people call the likes of Dusknoir (it have faults battle-wise, even still), Kingambit and Magnezone mediocre or garbage if they don’t provide a reason other than “it’s ugly” or “boring”.

It’s not a problem exclusive to cross-gen evos, as it also happens to Baby Pokémon, Ultra Beasts, and Paradox Pokémon. Even Legendary Pokémon and Mythical Pokémon came into fire since the mid 2000s.
 
I mean, I don't mind if my favourite Pokemon have next to no fan presence or merchandise. Like it's not going to fill me with pride to see my special little guy finally being appreciated by the fanbase. My ability to enjoy my favourites is completely independent of anyone else's opinion on them (except when I like a design partially because it's funny how much other people hate it)

I'm not going to pretend any of this is a real problem, but my point was simply that sudden Mega-induced popularity for your favourite mon is slightly annoying if you don't really like the Mega, in the same way that it's slightly annoying when your favourite artist releases an album you don't really like that catapults them from a successful-but-under-the-radar career into mainstream popularity. There's this inextricable popular association between the thing you love and this thing you don't particularly care for.

More or less agree. I suppose it's an unpopular opinion that I couldn't care less whether my favorite Pokemon Infernape received a Mega evolution. I think it's perfect the way it is.

The only reason I even slightly care is due to the rivalry within the fanbase with respect to Sinnoh and Hoenn's starter trios for the title of best/most popular in the franchise. Sometimes Hoenn fans will bring up their starters having Mega evolutions as a reason to rank them above Sinnoh's, which can be mildly annoying. But in a vacuum I really couldn't care less whether Sinnoh's starters have or don't have Mega evolutions. I think they're close to perfect just the way they are.
 
I think that's just kind of the thing that comes with adding onto things that already exist. Even before Megas we had this happen a lot with the traditional cross-gen evolutions.

While from a battling standpoint even back then new evolutions were an upgrade to an already existing Pokemon to make them stronger, at the same time from a design standpoint many of them were divisive among fans over the years. Like Rhyperior for instance was quite heavily divisive as a design among fans ever since it existed, being added onto the rather popular Rhyhorn line. Many people like Rhydon but a lot of people who liked Rhydon weren't so warm to Rhyperior, feeling there was a dissonance between it and Rhydon or that Rhyperior's design lost a lot of what made Rhydon's design great to them. Many of the Gen 4 ones for instance were pretty divisive among many fans, particularly the likes of Magmortar, Probopass, Lickilicky, and whatnot. I know Magmortar is kinda not very warmly received in particular.

You had some who were pretty well received from a design standpoint like Electivire and Weavile, while others...really didn't totally take off. Not because they were inherently bad per se, but because they were adding onto something that already existed and in many cases, many people liked them, so some fans were not happy with seeing a design that rubbed them the wrong way being attached as an evolved form of a Pokemon that they really liked over the years.

Even now with them doing some cross-gen evolutions every now and then in recent games (and even with regional forms) this kind of stuff happens. Kingambit for instance is a strong evolution of Bisharp and is an incredibly strong Pokemon, but I know quite a few people who have said that they weren't satisfied with how Kingambit turned out or some people who felt that it wasn't really necessary (I myself like Kingambit even if it's attached to Bisharp who has been a long time favorite of mine). I know a lot of people who were dissatisfied with Dudunsparce as an evolution to Dunsparce. Meanwhile regional forms have always been a YMMV due to being associated with mons that already exist.

There's always a bit of a your mileage may vary in that regard when you add something to a thing that already existed. On one hand these things can improve a mon that needs it from a gameplay standpoint, but from a design standpoint many people may or may not take well to seeing these additions to something that already existed that they like, especially if it rubs them the wrong way relative to the original thing.

WHO DOESNT LIKE DUDUNSPARCE?! SHOW ME, THEY MUST SUFFER
 
"I love Dark-type Pokémon because they're so strong. Also, only selfish people think of Pokémon as strong or weak".

Karen is awful.

Slightly tangential, but this makes me think me of the quiz in Dragon's Den.

QuestionCorrect answer(s)Wrong answer(s)
What are Pokémon to you?PalC / AllyHGSS
Friend
UnderlingC / JuniorHGSS
What helps you to win battles?Strategy
RaisingC / TrainingHGSS
Cheating
What kind of Trainer do you wish to battle?AnybodyC / AnyoneHGSSTough personC / StrongHGSS
Weak personC / WeakHGSS
What is most important for raising Pokémon?Love
Knowledge
Violence
Strong Pokémon. Weak Pokémon. Which is more important?BothToughC / StrengthHGSS
WeakC / WeaknessHGSS

Considering that the answers are pretty self-evident it's quite funny that Clair states she hasn't been confirmed; I like to imagine that she's taken the quiz every week for years and years and still hasn't grasped the correct answers because she's just that boneheaded and stubborn. We obviously don't know what answers she gave to the quiz but given the way she's characterised it seems like she'd struggle with #3 and #5 in particular:

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Slightly tangential, but this makes me think me of the quiz in Dragon's Den.

QuestionCorrect answer(s)Wrong answer(s)
What are Pokémon to you?PalC / AllyHGSS
Friend
UnderlingC / JuniorHGSS
What helps you to win battles?Strategy
RaisingC / TrainingHGSS
Cheating
What kind of Trainer do you wish to battle?AnybodyC / AnyoneHGSSTough personC / StrongHGSS
Weak personC / WeakHGSS
What is most important for raising Pokémon?Love
Knowledge
Violence
Strong Pokémon. Weak Pokémon. Which is more important?BothToughC / StrengthHGSS
WeakC / WeaknessHGSS

Considering that the answers are pretty self-evident it's quite funny that Clair states she hasn't been confirmed; I like to imagine that she's taken the quiz every week for years and years and still hasn't grasped the correct answers because she's just that boneheaded and stubborn. We obviously don't know what answers she gave to the quiz but given the way she's characterised it seems like she'd struggle with #3 and #5 in particular:

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Question 3 there bugs me. No, I don't want to fight weak trainers, I'm not Nemona. Let them get better first so it's a fair fight, neither of us gets anything out of me stomping them.
 
Question 3 there bugs me. No, I don't want to fight weak trainers, I'm not Nemona. Let them get better first so it's a fair fight, neither of us gets anything out of me stomping them.

The counterargument against that is that by battling a weak trainer you're doing them a favour, because it's a learning experience for them and you can show them how to get better. That's how the games usually frame it, anyway. One could also posit that it's an exercise in moderation for you, the tougher trainer, if you're intentionally easing up and giving them a chance to win rather than just steamrollering over them but really it's more for the less capable person's benefit. In Clair's case specifically, she's a gym leader and a clan chieftain who has a responsibility (and practical interest) in ensuring that her students and underlings are capable battlers; it doesn't really speak highly of her leadership skills or her clan's reputation if everyone but her is pathetically weak. We see that other gyms do also encourage their trainers to keep improving; there's a Lass in Whitney's gym who mentions that she's tried repeatedly to defeat her.

If you follow the line of thinking that gym leaders scale their teams for each individual trainer, then it's literally in their job description to accept a challenge from anyone (we'll ignore Norman saying "there's no challenge for me to fight a greenhorn trainer" but I think that's less about him outright refusing to fight a weak trainer and more about him specifically wanting you, his child, to grow).

There's also the attitude the game implies your answer gives - by saying "I only want to battle tough people" you're suggesting that only they are worthy of your time, whereas saying "I only want to battle weak people" implies you just want to dominate everyone with minimal effort. By saying "anyone" you're expressing that you're a fair person who'll give everyone your time and consideration, and are willing to be friends with anyone. It's a decent moral, as they go.
 
Slightly tangential, but this makes me think me of the quiz in Dragon's Den.

QuestionCorrect answer(s)Wrong answer(s)
What are Pokémon to you?PalC / AllyHGSS
Friend
UnderlingC / JuniorHGSS
What helps you to win battles?Strategy
RaisingC / TrainingHGSS
Cheating
What kind of Trainer do you wish to battle?AnybodyC / AnyoneHGSSTough personC / StrongHGSS
Weak personC / WeakHGSS
What is most important for raising Pokémon?Love
Knowledge
Violence
Strong Pokémon. Weak Pokémon. Which is more important?BothToughC / StrengthHGSS
WeakC / WeaknessHGSS

Considering that the answers are pretty self-evident it's quite funny that Clair states she hasn't been confirmed; I like to imagine that she's taken the quiz every week for years and years and still hasn't grasped the correct answers because she's just that boneheaded and stubborn. We obviously don't know what answers she gave to the quiz but given the way she's characterised it seems like she'd struggle with #3 and #5 in particular:

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I'd also say that I'm not a huge fan of the wording change to question 1 in HGSS. While 'underling' has clear ideas of superiority, 'junior' feels like it might brush up too close to a teaching context. It's called a Trainer after all, and there's going to be some amount of EVs and TM usage before a mon you just met in the grass reaches full potential.
 
I'd also say that I'm not a huge fan of the wording change to question 1 in HGSS. While 'underling' has clear ideas of superiority, 'junior' feels like it might brush up too close to a teaching context. It's called a Trainer after all, and there's going to be some amount of EVs and TM usage before a mon you just met in the grass reaches full potential.

Yeah that's a weird one. "Junior" has always felt vaguely affectionate to me so doesn't instantly signal the contempt or detachment that "underling" does. Though I think that changing "raising" to "training" feels more sensible.

HGSS makes some other weird scripting choices, I've always thought the English localisation was a bit... iffy, to put it mildly.
 
Question 3 there bugs me. No, I don't want to fight weak trainers, I'm not Nemona. Let them get better first so it's a fair fight, neither of us gets anything out of me stomping them.
The counterargument against that is that by battling a weak trainer you're doing them a favour, because it's a learning experience for them and you can show them how to get better. That's how the games usually frame it, anyway. One could also posit that it's an exercise in moderation for you, the tougher trainer, if you're intentionally easing up and giving them a chance to win rather than just steamrollering over them but really it's more for the less capable person's benefit.
Given Nemona was brought up, isn't this literally what her goal as your rival is? She brings up training a new team specifically to pace herself alongside you until you become a Champion that she can challenge on equal terms.

I think as far as that question goes, the idea is that if you only want to fight Strong Trainers, you look like early DP Paul saying "you're worthless and not worth my time" to people like Ash, while only challenging Weak Trainers makes you look like a coward who wants to win more than self-improve.

I think that's just kind of the thing that comes with adding onto things that already exist. Even before Megas we had this happen a lot with the traditional cross-gen evolutions.

While from a battling standpoint even back then new evolutions were an upgrade to an already existing Pokemon to make them stronger, at the same time from a design standpoint many of them were divisive among fans over the years. Like Rhyperior for instance was quite heavily divisive as a design among fans ever since it existed, being added onto the rather popular Rhyhorn line. Many people like Rhydon but a lot of people who liked Rhydon weren't so warm to Rhyperior, feeling there was a dissonance between it and Rhydon or that Rhyperior's design lost a lot of what made Rhydon's design great to them. Many of the Gen 4 ones for instance were pretty divisive among many fans, particularly the likes of Magmortar, Probopass, Lickilicky, and whatnot. I know Magmortar is kinda not very warmly received in particular.

You had some who were pretty well received from a design standpoint like Electivire and Weavile, while others...really didn't totally take off. Not because they were inherently bad per se, but because they were adding onto something that already existed and in many cases, many people liked them, so some fans were not happy with seeing a design that rubbed them the wrong way being attached as an evolved form of a Pokemon that they really liked over the years.

Even now with them doing some cross-gen evolutions every now and then in recent games (and even with regional forms) this kind of stuff happens. Kingambit for instance is a strong evolution of Bisharp and is an incredibly strong Pokemon, but I know quite a few people who have said that they weren't satisfied with how Kingambit turned out or some people who felt that it wasn't really necessary (I myself like Kingambit even if it's attached to Bisharp who has been a long time favorite of mine). I know a lot of people who were dissatisfied with Dudunsparce as an evolution to Dunsparce. Meanwhile regional forms have always been a YMMV due to being associated with mons that already exist.

There's always a bit of a your mileage may vary in that regard when you add something to a thing that already existed. On one hand these things can improve a mon that needs it from a gameplay standpoint, but from a design standpoint many people may or may not take well to seeing these additions to something that already existed that they like, especially if it rubs them the wrong way relative to the original thing.
I think this is particularly contentious with Megas and Evolutions because they serve as progress/a cap for the Pokemon in at least that original incarnation, compared to split evolutions like Gallade or Regional forms being variations that co-exist with them. So while I disagree with several cases, I get why someone would dislike something like a Mega Audino or Bisharp evolving to Kingambit because it suggests that many general buffs/QoL improvements like Signature moves, stat tweaks, etc. will be focused on that form instead of the one they prefer to play as, which you could kind of see with something like Blastoise only getting the much-appreciated Shell Smash after its Mega form got Dexited (since Mega Launcher would make its Coverage way stronger as a Sweeper like that).

Dudunsparce I want to note feels like a case of a joke most people get, but your reception depends on how funny you found it. Dunsparce has always felt like a mon where the joke is, good or not, it's deliberately boring and simple, so the Evolution being extremely basic feels like a progression of that. The thing there is that the joke is based on how the franchise regards or acts with Dunsparce moreso than being directly apparent in its design for a simple evo like, say, Tandemaus/Maushold.
 
Given Nemona was brought up, isn't this literally what her goal as your rival is? She brings up training a new team specifically to pace herself alongside you until you become a Champion that she can challenge on equal terms.

I think as far as that question goes, the idea is that if you only want to fight Strong Trainers, you look like early DP Paul saying "you're worthless and not worth my time" to people like Ash, while only challenging Weak Trainers makes you look like a coward who wants to win more than self-improve.


I think this is particularly contentious with Megas and Evolutions because they serve as progress/a cap for the Pokemon in at least that original incarnation, compared to split evolutions like Gallade or Regional forms being variations that co-exist with them. So while I disagree with several cases, I get why someone would dislike something like a Mega Audino or Bisharp evolving to Kingambit because it suggests that many general buffs/QoL improvements like Signature moves, stat tweaks, etc. will be focused on that form instead of the one they prefer to play as, which you could kind of see with something like Blastoise only getting the much-appreciated Shell Smash after its Mega form got Dexited (since Mega Launcher would make its Coverage way stronger as a Sweeper like that).

Dudunsparce I want to note feels like a case of a joke most people get, but your reception depends on how funny you found it. Dunsparce has always felt like a mon where the joke is, good or not, it's deliberately boring and simple, so the Evolution being extremely basic feels like a progression of that. The thing there is that the joke is based on how the franchise regards or acts with Dunsparce moreso than being directly apparent in its design for a simple evo like, say, Tandemaus/Maushold.
Both buffing the Pokémon and giving it’s higher-power-level state like an evolution or Mega Evolution would be a great compromise, though it has to be handled carefully.

I also want to add that buffing a Pokémon with weak BST when they are not supposed to be powerful to begin with isn’t going to respect the lore. It will be hard to take seriously a Luvdisc having the same BST of a Torkoal since Luvdisc isn’t supposed to be even a decent battling Pokémon to begin with. In this case, unless they already reached the third stage of their evolutionary line, I’m all for giving them an evolution.
 
Late to the Karen party, but I think the intent is she's making a jab at Silver specifically for being a shitheel the entire game. He's been on the same journey as you and it's entirely possible they met. Curious as to what the Japanese script is like there.

Alternatively, since she only makes her famous quip after losing, she's just being salty.
 
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Dudunsparce I want to note feels like a case of a joke most people get, but your reception depends on how funny you found it. Dunsparce has always felt like a mon where the joke is, good or not, it's deliberately boring and simple, so the Evolution being extremely basic feels like a progression of that. The thing there is that the joke is based on how the franchise regards or acts with Dunsparce moreso than being directly apparent in its design for a simple evo like, say, Tandemaus/Maushold.
Personally, I love that they gave it an evolution, it desperately needed one, but I feel like they should have done something more then just going ‘Here’s Dunsparce but we copy-pasted the body one or two times more.’ They wouldn’t even have to do much I feel, just make the segments into a proper snake body instead of something that’ll get me suspended if I say it, give it bigger wings, and there you go. Would have still be simple sure but it at least would have looked a little neater.
 
Dunsparce was perfect just the way it was and did not need an evolution, but Dudunsparce was the best thing that could have come from a Dunsparce evolution. Fuck trying to "fix" Dunsparce's humble appearance, just have the evolution be two Dunsparces clipping into each other.
With the bonus special form of THREE !

Honestly, the whole Dudunsparce is just a genius move.
It's just "more Dunsparce". Perfection.
 
I would love to see Showdown on the Switch that utilizes your Pokémon in Home and items on your save files. Don’t know how it would work without getting independent game journalists angry.
 
K so I'm also late to the Karen party because I diverted to a different topic but fuck it: I never really read her as a hypocrite and I think that to do so is kind of a wild reach.

From the context of what she says, it's clear that she's talking about "strong" and "weak" as objective qualities; i.e. what the vast majority of people consider strong or weak. It's a call not to follow the crowd, and that's how I've seen most people interpret it over the years. And she's praising you for beating her so the unspoken implication is that you live up to her ideal: "Truly skilled trainers should try to win with their favourites".

It may well be a jab at Silver, who throughout his arc seems to prioritise catching Pokemon he already considers strong. But it works more broadly as a general statement.

Her saying that Dark types are strong is fine because they're her favourites (leaving aside the fact that she only uses three - you can argue game balance, but there's a lore reason that works alongside her lack of a Tyranitar: perhaps it's simply not her favourite. Personally, I've always liked that she uses Vileplume, I think it's an underused Pokemon in general). To provide an analogy, if I were to state that a particular man/woman is attractive, most well-adjusted people wouldn't take that as me authoritatively stating that "everyone finds this woman/man beautiful". It's me announcing my preference, and trusting that whoever I say it to is secure enough not to start arguing with me (yes, some people will insist that beauty is objective but they're morons and safely ignored).
 
Are we aware of Nintendo’s recent shenanigans?
You mean the part where they got a certain mr Bowser to pay 30% of his earnings to them for the rest of his life?

:wo:

Nintendo will *not* let people use their stuff, let alone Pokemon. Whatever deals they may have with Showdown, if any, these aren't public knowledge but they've not allowed anyone that isn't GameFreaks or directly linked to GameFreaks (aka, ILCA) to connect in any way to their games since gamecube era, to the point that the even virtual console version of Stadium cannot connect to Home.
 
to the point that the even virtual console version of Stadium cannot connect to Home.

I think the idea that Stadium would be able to connect to home is an unrealistic and dumb wish-fufillment idea. The first two gens work so different internally from Gen III onwards that the "transfer" from the virtual console games to Bank is less of an actual transfer and more of it creating as close to a duplicate as possible using later gen mechanics while simultaneously deleting the original version of that Pokemon. The idea of converting Pokemon from Home into ones that could function in either stadium game is just not possible without wasting a lot of time and resources, especially due to how different DVs and Stat Experience are to IVs and EVs, not to mention stuff like moves from later gens and other such things.

The only way I could ever see any sort of external connectivity is if they added the Gameboy Pokemon titles for the Switch Online service.
 
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