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(Archive) Small Objective Changes Thread

Discussion in 'Archives' started by eric the espeon, Jul 12, 2009.

  1. eric the espeon

    eric the espeon maybe I just misunderstood
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    Archive of the Small objective changes thread. All suggestions here have either been made or rejected.

    Old posts which were merged so no longer have an owner (open)

    Assuming darkie's opinion holds true in the Standards for Grammar thread, the term "suspect" should be capitalized whenever the ladder or metagame are being refered to.

    The term Base Power is not capitalized under Notable Ice-Type Moves, Physical, Ice Punch:
    On that same page, a dash code was messed up (it's under Notable Ice-Type Moves, Special, Blizzard).
    Under Hail, the wrong "there" is used. "Their" should be spelled "there".
    There are two instances where the word "special" is incorrectly written as "Special".
    -Under Tentacruel's Support set
    -Under the Choice Specs set
    Two seperate capitalization errors under the Specs Choice set (error is bolded)
    Also, Heatran (plural) is spelled wrong
    Under "Counters", SunnyBeamer isn't capitalized correctly, and a dash is included where it isn't necessary:
    Under the Scarf-lead set, the stat Attack is not capitalized.
    U-turn is improperly written as U-Turn.
    Under the Agility set, Special Attack is incorrectly abbreviated.
    At the end of Ludicolo's Swords Dance set, 2v2 is mistakenly written with spaces between.
    Scizor analysis
    Should be "wary."


    In Dewgong's Rain Rest set:

    Hydration will wake Dewgong from its sleep immediately after Resting [...] would be better.

    In the last paragraph of "Team Options", the ability Pressure is not capitalized.
    On the page about the Metronome (the item): http://www.smogon.com/dp/items/metronome

    The description says:
    It should be either "up to a maximum of +100%" or "up to a maximum of 200%".

    Little typing mistake in the Heracross page:

    Heracross' attack is either 383 or 349 not 483 or 449.

    Also, the bulk up set is missing some EVs.

    While I didn't fix Xia's problem, someone else did.

    Porygon2 D/P analysis

    In the EVs section, change



    I was just checking out some Infernape sets when I came across this typo.

    The error was in the Choice Band set, in the first paragraph.

    "U-turn allows Infernape to scout the opponent’s team and take the offensive, deal some Stealth Rock damage as the opponent switches, and hit the common switch-ins, such asStarmie, Cresselia, and Latias, for super effective damage."

    There needs to be a space inbetween as and Starmie.


    'Double Status' set:

    will-o-wisp gets boosted to 82% accuracy, while stone edge gets boosted to 88%


    Other Options:

    hitmontop does not learn focus punch


    Swarm set:

    Fighting pokemon also resist the bug/rock combination, with Machamp being the only OU.

    The whole paragraph:

    Found this under Cloyster's Other Options section, second paragraph.



    bolded part should be removed, i think


    shouldn't it be specified that, in order to hurt those two, you'll either need giga drain or hidden power grass from that "enough Special Attack"? just in order to clarify the description


    in the paragraph right before "team options"


    Under Other Options, second paragraph, "effect" should be "affect".


    in the counters section there shouldn't be a space between k and é

    "Both Pok émon are capable of Roosting away at whatever Giratina-O throws at it. Forretress can set up Toxic Spikes and Spikes"

    this is the second time in a few days I've found an error exactly like this


    second opinion paragraph

    correct me if I read that wrong

    edit: ugh the same analysis, counters section

    who wrote this up anyway

    edit 2



    boosting sweeper set, second paragraph

    I'll just read through the rest of the rotoms while I'm at it

    edit 3:


    coincidently, the boosting sweeper set, second paragraph

    edit 4:


    maybe I'll check the wormadams and deoxys formes next, lol

    Fixed above.

    Thanks for the reports.


    On the first set(MixNite), there's a conflict between the listed EVs and Set comments.

    The listed EVs are 112 Atk/200 Spe/196 SpA. The set comments need to be altered to reflect that.

    Thanks Erazor. I fixed it.

    on the other optionns:(although its a tiny change)
    you stated that the only pokemon that is immune to it is groudon except for the fact that garchomp is uber and is also immune to thunder wave


    This is really minor, but there are two cases of pronoun inconsistency in the analysis, where "he" is used in the place of the more abundant "it". The first one is in the second sentence of the Opinion: "the defensive stats to exploit his 12 resistances...", and the second one is in the second sentence of the Choice Specs set: "Combine that with his great Special Attack..."

    On the Defensive Penguin set, the word "recover" should be replaced with "recovery" - this is located in the first sentence of the last paragraph. ("Because it lacks reliable recover of its own" doesn't make sense) In the same paragraph, the word "compliments" should be replaced with "complements".



    technician hidden powers article (mistake is bolded)



    a rotom-w sprite can be added since it's now available (under "support pokemon")

    quoting isn't necessary for this

    edit: and rotom-w can also be linked to its own analysis now

    I'll put all of this in one post to save time


    under "rain basics":

    user's* or users'*

    "rain team building"

    problems* and then plowing*? never seen it spelled like that, unless it's some british spelling or something

    under rain leads, uxie


    rain leads, zapdos

    this sounds sort of run-on and could be changed to:
    under "rain sweepers", azumaril

    (a space)

    rain sweepers, quilfish

    (just one a)

    rain sweepers, gorebyss

    under "support pokemon", scizor


    support pokemon, rotom-w

    I think this should be replenishers*

    support pokemon, claydol

    again, utilize*

    support pokemon, phione


    under battle stategy (1. Be Offensive), last sentence


    (3. Sacrificing your Pokemon)


    went back and found an error under threats, tentacruel


    there are also some words throughout such as "outspeed" and "outstall" that technically aren't words, but I wasn't sure what to do about that since they might be considered competitive terms or something

    edit: small nitpick in "intro to competitive pokemon" article, under "clauses"


    Fixed above.

    Its just a small thing but on the Azelf Life Orb and Life Orb sets there are 4 EVs missing.

    36 Atk / 252 SpA / 216 Spe

    This should be 220Spd.


    other options, first paragraph:

    can there be 1st person in an analysis?

    if not, it could be changed to:

    I added the change from the post above. Waiting to be cached.

    http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/luxray specifies the ability as Intimidate for the Choice Band set, but the text for the set talks about how to get the best out of Rivalry. This looks like probably a typo in the set description. (That is, unless the set's meant to be used with Intimidate and the discussion about Rivalry is the typo, but that seems less likely.)


    I don't know whether this was wrong with the original analysis, the update for it, or something that occurred when posting it on the site, but one of the paragraphs under the "Utility" set is horribly mangled beyond comprehension.


    "know your passers", leafeon


    "building your team", "your lead", last sentence

    technically it is "game-breaking", but outspeed should be "out-speed" and I think we ignore that so idk

    on the example team, there is some inconsistency:

    also, under scizor:


    under "playing the chain", third paragraph

    I think this should be defense

    under "beating baton pass", smeargle

    under haze

    eliminates* and game-breaking* again


    resttalk set
    and under "EVs",


    I don't known if this should go here, but I thought I should bring it up.

    On the main page the WiFi Trade/Battle Center link goes no where. I don't know if this was a mistake or not, but yeah.

    I'm not sure if this is the place to post this, but when I do a smogon search for new Platinum forms, it only comes with the non-Platinum form. That is to say, if I type "Giratina-O" and "Shaymin-S" in search, the website will go to the Giratina(-A) and Shaymin (land) page respectively. Doing a search for Rotom-H, S, C (anything but Rotom) gives a whole list of search options. I'm just posting so that if I type "Giratina-O," it should load the Giratina-O page, and the same for all the other new Platinum forms.

    D/P infernape 'team options' section

    should be 'its frailty'


    On Torterra's subseed set it states that:

    "Torterra also has the advantage of being one of only two SubSeeders who still receives Leftovers recovery in a Sandstorm (Poison Heal Breloom being the other)"

    There is actually a third sandproof subseeder: Cacturne.


    -Under the set comments, the term "Base Power" is not capitalized.
    -Under the set comments, the acroynm "KOes" is spelled incorrectly.
    -Under set comments, the contractions Def and SR should be expanded.
    I have added the changes Xia and XomOfChaos suggested. They are ready to be cached.


    In the Other Options section, the term "Underused" is improperly typed twice.


    On the first set, I believe the phrase "Raikouesque" should be rewritten "Raikou-esque".


    In the Have something to handle Fire-type Pokemon and Flash Fire part under Sunny Day team checklist, a space was forgotten between Pokemon and easily

    God I hope this is going in the right section.

    Anyway, Gastro Acid's explanation has a small typo on the second line (capital H in 'when'):


    Under the first set, last paragraph, I missed the "s" in "set".

    The title "Other Options" needs to be correctly capiltalized; it's currently "Other options".


    Under the first set, the term "Base Power" is incorrectly capitalized, the wrong form of "its" is used, and a number lower than ten is not spelled out.
    I'll go change those now, Xia


    In the OU Team Options section, first paragraph,
    Apparently, the bolded part was forgotten during editing the analysis. It should be removed.


    Also, there are 2 EVs sections at the end for Kyogre.


    -Under the Supporting Wall set, the weather sandstorm is mistakenly written as "Sand" multiple times.
    -Also, the ability Sand Stream is misspelled in the Counters section.
    -In both set comments, the move U-turn is mistakenly written "U-Turn".
    -On the Rest + Sleep Talk set, the term "Base Power" is not capitalized.
    Under the Counters section, 2HKOes is incorrectly spelled.
    -In the opinion section, 4x is incorrectly written x4.
    -Under Other options, the term "Base Power" isn't capitalized.
    -The term "Base Power" is not capitalized throughout the ability description.

    this has been dealt with, awaiting cache.

    Should be Dialga, third paragraph from the bottom (Counters section)



    This seems like a dick move, but the term "Berry" isn't capitalized throughout the entire article, though it should be.
    Very minor, but in the Uber Speed Tiers http://www.smogon.com/dp/articles/ubers_speed_tiers BP mew is missing a Capital M:
    235 mew 100 Neutral None 68

    Another few little ones for http://www.smogon.com/dp/articles/ubers_speed_tiers

    Darkrai and Weavile's neutral Speed is listed as "Darkrai". It should be 349. Surprised this one was not picked up actually.

    Edit: Gen said:
    [01:39]<Gen_Empoleon>My bad
    [01:39]<Gen_Empoleon>I'll fix that

    Tier 0(Choice Scarf users to >150 base Speed)

    The B in base should be caps.

    Okay, Gen fixed the Weavile issue, while I have fixed the Base Speed spelling. Awaiting a cache.


    the last set... doesn't have a name. I'm assuming it should be "Choice Band" instead of "None" because the item is CB lol


    there is an extra space

    oops =[

    As an addition to whistle's correction, the word "confusion" shouldn't be capitalized.
    A load of things for the items section (if you don't want to make all the changes in one go just edit out the parts you've done):

    The Overview section of Choice Band is missing, but has been written by kd24, here.

    If you look there is should be instantly apparent what is wrong.
    All Berrys with a non-poffin effect are missing the section that tells you what power/type Natural Gift they give, all are listed on Natural Gift's page. Maybe only the 80 Power ones should be added, but for some (Ganlon which gives +1 Def in a pinch, or a base 80 Ice move for example) this is their main, if not only competitive use.

    Return and Frustration should probably note that their base power maxes out at 102 (saves people from having to find the maximum happiness (its not on any Smogon guide I've seen) doing the math themselves). The two moves also have different spacing with virtually the same lines.

    For Grip Claw: "Bind, Clamp, Fire Spin, Magma Storm, Whirlpool, and Wrap always last the full 5 turns."
    It would be more accurate to say:
    "Causes the holder's Bind, Clamp, Fire Spin, Magma Storm, Whirlpool, and Wrap to always last for 5 turns."

    Now for some that are not directly competitive, but in the spirit of the "ingame expansion" and inclusiveness of information I feel should be added.

    Every single Incense is missing a part of the information about it, namely the fact that it causes a specific Pokemon to create different eggs when held. Bulbapedia has a full list, which I can't link to due to rules.

    Metal Coat should mention that if Onix/Scyther hold it while being traded they evolve.

    Razor Claw also, when held by Sneasel causes it to evolve into Weavile when it levels up at night.
    As above but with Razor Fang/Gligar/Gliscor.

    Deepseascale evolves Clapmperl into Gorebyss when traded, Deepseatooth evolves it into Huntail.

    Me again, in the Pt EV Manual there is an inconsistency in the capitalisation of "level", at the start and the end it uses non caps l, but between this line:
    and this line:
    all of the l's are capitalised in Level. This is about half the article, slightly more (~18 caps and roughly the same non caps).

    I can't find anything in the grammar standards article to point out which is preferable, but consistency must be intended.

    Edit: another little thing, in this section of the Pt Ev manual the first "Power Items" should be bold to fit with the sections above it:

    In the analysis for Swellow I noticed a slight grammatical error. It is located in the first paragraph of the first set.

    There are two ands. I believe there should only be one in that situation. Just something I noticed while browsing and wanted to point it out.


    The first mention of Azumarill under the Baitlix set is spelled with only one 'l'.

    Hypnosis's acc is still listed as 70% on all the pages, not the 60% as Pt introduced. I'm not sure if both should be listed, or if it should just be explained on the Hypnosis page.


    Last 2 paragraphs of opinion for the Hitmontop analysis:

    Heysup messed up the coding.
    Gotcha supermarth. It should be fixed in a while :)


    Thats in the Rest talk set.


    If one should be capitalized then the other should be as well.

    http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/rotom-h and http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/rotom-f

    In the "Counters" section, "weary" should be "wary".


    Again, in the "Counters" section:
    Needs rewording. My suggestion:

    Once again, "Counters":
    Has awkward wording. Try:

    In the second Overview paragraph, "burn" should be capitalized and "Bboth" should obviously be "Both".


    I found more than a few errors in the analysis.

    (Changes in bold)

    Choice Band set:
    Choice Scarf set:
    Team Options:
    Other Options:
    EVs: (section header listed as "Evs")
    Heh, might as well point them out as I read along. Changes are in bold in the quoted piece.

    Top Six Disappointments of DP

    Please double-check these (esp. the Mothim comma) to make sure that they are all grammatically accurate.

    While reading the Trick Room Article I found the following errors:

    In the Trick Roomer table, Celebi's defense is listed at 110.

    Honchkrow: With a wade (wide) movepool which consists of Superpower, Heat Wave, and Drill Peck (needs comma, I think) almost no Pokémon can get in Honchkrow’s way while it is sweeping.

    Absol also has an amazing enough (change to "good enough"? this is just my opinion, it's probably fine as-is) movepool to try to mixed attack (change to "to try mixed attacking"?), but Swords Dance is a better set to run while using it.

    Though at (should just be "At" since "but" is used after the comma) first glance Golem may seem to be an inferior Rhyperior, but the one thing that Golem can do taht (that) Rhyperior cannot is use the move Explosion. Explosion is a wonderful way to end a Trick Room seep (sweep), allowing you to get a Pokémon which (should be "that", I believe, not "which") can set up Trick Room at no expense to you, but also may KO the opponents (needs apostrophe) Pokémon.

    Dragonite finally outclasses its brother, Salamence (needs comma)inside of Trick Room. Dragonite can abuse its low base Speed, extensive movepool (needs comma) and great Attack stats to breaks walls and sweep well under Trick Room. With Superpower, Dragon Claw, Outrage, Thunderbolt, Aqua Tail, Fire Blast, and other moves, Dragonite becomes extremely hard to stop. Though as it does so well under (change to "although it does well in"?) Trick Room, you may find it suffering from four moveslot syndrome, (wrong punctuation mark in context) you give up one attack and it can no longer hit a specific wall.

    In the Level 1 Endeavor Pokemon section, Smeargle should be listed, as it's superior to Phanpy and Rattata.

    I'm sure there's more that I didn't see, as there were some sections I wasn't intending to read in the first place.

    More Awkward English

    Beedrill - http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/beedrill

    Section - Choice

    Section - Swords Dance
    IMO, the entire Beedrill analysis is awkwardly written. I think it needs to be updated/revamped/changed/whatever.

    I have a comment concerning this article:


    Ball capsules here can be confused with ball capsules that you put seals on. I believe this should be changed to "Poke Balls" or something else to avoid confusion.

    Gotcha Diesel & Dark Talon.


    No idea what's going on there, but k.

    I'll get that supermarth, thanks.


    The 'Status', 'Mc(Ice)Gar', and 'Mixed Sweeper' sets suggest for EVs "170 SpA". 170 is not a multiple of 4, it should be changed to 168.


    The 'Utility' and 'Pseudo-Passer' sets suggest 114 defense EVs. 114 is not a multiple of 4, it should be changed to 112.

    There's a small grammatical error in the last paragraph of the Reversal set for Heracross

    "if" should be removed.

    Gotcha darknessmalice, should show up on site sooner or later!

    Magnezone - http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/magnezone
    Set - Dual Screens

    Change to

    With Magnet Pull, Magnezone can easily switch into Steel-types such as Bronzong, Scizor, and Jirachi and trap them, giving you the perfect chance to set up Reflect and Light Screen with ease.

    Change to

    Discharge is an excellent alternative to Thunderbolt due to 30% chance of inflicting paralysis, which can be extremely useful because of Magnezone's poor Speed.

    ^^^ delete "Although,"

    Change to

    Gyarados is an excellent partner to Magnezone as it resists Magnezone's weaknesses to Fire-, Fighting-, and Ground-type attacks.

    Understood (Dark Talon)

    On Blissey's analysis:

    How can Tyranitar use Dragon Dance if it was Choice Band? I believe that it should read "not of the Choice..."

    that's worded ambiguously, but what it means is that Blissey assumes Tyranitar was Choice Band as it uses Protect.

    Edits in Red Bold

    Beautifly - http://smogon.com/dp/pokemon/beautifly

    "However, it is recommended that you do not replace Stun Spore for another attack; otherwise it would be inferior to the same set on Mothim."

    "You may think that because Beautifly is of the Bug- / Flying type it fears Stealth Rock, but this is false."

    "Shadow Ball hits [deleted with] Rotom and Drifblim for super-effective damage, whereas Hidden Power Ground helps with Steelix and Probopass, whom you would otherwise fail against."

    "Hidden Power Rock deserves a mention because it bashes [deleted the] Normal / Flying Pokemon. Hidden Power Ice is also an option, although it does not do too much outside of hurting Altaria."

    "It is suggested that you use a 30 HP IV so you only have to Substitute three times instead of four, and only once after Stealth Rock damage to activate both Swarm and the Petaya Berry."


    "Nothing really. Beautifly is way too fragile to attempt Roost or Whirlwind."


    "Maxing HP gives Beautifly an even HP, causing it to faint on the second switch-in to Stealth Rock rather than surviving with 1 HP [deleted rest of sentence]."

    Tropius - http://smogon.com/dp/pokemon/tropius

    "If you are choosing to use Tropius offensively, just maximize Speed and the attacking stat of choice."

    Lol, how were these not originally caught?

    The EVs come out to 562.

    Staraptor : http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/staraptor

    Staraptor cannot hit Rotom with Double-Edge.

    Read the previous sentence before it: "In theory, Foresight can help Staraptor use its Normal-type STAB moves against Ghost-type Pokemon." Granted, I think it's a bit silly so I could remove it since Foresight isn't really viable, but I suppose that's what Other Options are for.

    Okay, I'd like to request a change to the Vaporeon page, with this set added.

    name: Vaporeon
    move 1: Surf
    move 2: Ice Beam / Hidden Power Electric
    move 3: Aqua Ring
    move 4: Acid Armor / Baton Pass
    item: Leftovers
    ability: Water Absorb
    nature: Bold
    evs: 252 Def / 68 Spe / 188 HP
    ivs: Nothing specific needed unless you need IV spreads for HP.

    Surf is great for Stab, Ice beam for pesky grass types, and flying, but mainly grass that try to switch in thinking I have HP Electric, and not Ice Beam. When you first bring Vaporeon, you need to get Aqua Ring up as quick as possible. With Leftovers accompanying it, it's very hard to get any damage done to Vaporeon with out it healing it off. Acid Armor is for additional Defense support, it boosts it 2 stages. This makes it even harder to do substantial damage. You could also use Baton Pass instead of Acid Armor, if you want to pass Aqua Ring off to a less sturdy teammate. I haven't tried Baton Pass personally, but it is a good substitute for Acid Armor if you don't want it. You can also run Hidden Power Electric instead of Ice Beam if you need it for coverage more than Ice Beam, but I recommend Ice Beam.


    Extreme nitpick:

    the "D" doesn't have to be capitalised.


    Under Other Options, the term Base Power is not capitalized.

    For Griseous Orb add the following information to the effect "May only be held by Giratina, transforms Giratina into Giratina-O when held."

    And to Transform, add that transforming into Giratina-O in a link battle will lead to the transformed Pokemon instantly reverting to Giratina, because unless Giratina-O is holding a Girseous Orb it will always revert to Giratina. Since only Giratina can hold the Girseous Orb, the Pokemon that transforms will never be holding it.


    Lead set, fifth paragraph:

    This should say "stats", not "speeds".

    The Arcanine analysis displays oddly in Internet Explorer; the text extends into the purple border, unlike the rest of the analyses.

    @whistle - First Edit: changed the wording a bit. Hopefully it makes sense now. Second Edit: gotcha

    I'd just like to mention that the 'Slippy' set on Politoed only has 502 EVs. I doubt it's not meant to have an extra six, but if it is meant to ignore those EVs, ignore me.

    Understood (The Politoed Hunter).

    the Turtwig lead set has enough leftover EVs for a point of attack 236 HP/52 Atk/84 Def/28 Spe/76 Spd should be the spread on the analysis

    thanks to Kannon for this

    Done, thanks GoldenKnight.


    it mentions "Giga Attack" in there, that should be "Giga Impact"


    Under the Calm Mind set, the word in bold should be changed to haven't.
    Although I guess one could also question the switch to the second person after the Pokemon was being referred to in the third person throughout the paragraph.

    Understood (deluge)


    In the Latias analysis, the writer uses the feminine form, except in the OU counters part. This looks quite strange to me. I'm very sorry if there is a reason, or if I'm just wrong.

    EDIT @loedoc: so why do they use 'it' in the OU counter section?

    Latias is a female pokemon, even though it's legendary.

    Edit: To me, it seems like they never really address Latias as a girl.

    This is very mysterious...I could have sworn I posted in this thread about the Slowbro page.
    I almost posted again but then I checked the strategy wiki and saw that it was corrected.
    Is it standard practice to delete posts to this thread once the correction has been made?
    I understand why this could be done to keep this thread small.

    Anyway, feel free to delete this somewhat off-topic post and PM me a response.
    I'm just curious as to why my post has vanished.


    Your post has vanished because I have implemented your changes, deluge. A site staff member then approved the change and deleted our post. This is why this thread has so few posts. Fear not; your contribution has been welcoming!

    And just like that, I would expect both our posts to go *poof* eventually.


    The Other Options (Ubers) paragraph is on the page twice.

    die eter and azzababe I'll get both of those fixes, thanks.

    The Hitmontop analysis has a strange error at the bottom.

    Search for "Thick Fat"

    The second paragraph of the "Opinion" section contains a sentence fragment that appears to have been accidentally pasted into the paragraph, anyone with site access can simply delete the bolded portion of the paragraph without creating additional grammatical errors:

    Also imo the second instance of "rather" (first sentence) should be removed or replaced by a synonym, as it is redundant.


    For me, the Arcanine DP page has inconsistent formatting relative to the other pages on the site..
    The page width is too great so the section separating lines and the analysis text spills over into the blue border on the right.
    At 1280x800 resolution, it's the only page I encountered that I needed to scroll horizontally in order to read.
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  2. eric the espeon

    eric the espeon maybe I just misunderstood
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    Aug 7, 2007
    In Firefox the R/S main page displays oddly, the picture on the right seems to be too large and pushes the list of useful links (Pokemon/Articles/ect) down to below it in a way that seems awkward and is not in line with any of the other generations. I can screenshot if its wanted.

    Maybe shrinking the image, cutting off some whitespace (there is a little) or shifting the borders slightly would fix this?
  3. CardsOfTheHeart


    Aug 21, 2007
    I, for one, would be interested in seeing a screenshot of this. I also use Firefox and it doesn't look awkward to me.
  4. eric the espeon

    eric the espeon maybe I just misunderstood
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    Aug 7, 2007
  5. CardsOfTheHeart


    Aug 21, 2007
    Ah, of course I'm not going to see that because my monitor's standard resolution is 1280x800. When I switched to 1024x768, I was able to see what you're seeing. The Salamence image is wider than the images used on the other main pages so it could use some adjustment.
  6. Scoopapa


    Oct 12, 2007

    Heatran's Scarf set left out a couple of words in the middle of the fourth paragraph.

    (words added in bold)

    It was "especially is running a..." and should be "especially if it is running a..."
  7. Choray


    Oct 20, 2009

    Absol's Mixed Sweeper set notes that "Psycho Cut is for the omnipotent Poison- and Fighting-types, namely Hariyama and Drapion, while Night Slash gives Absol a strong secondary attack against slower opponents instead of relying on Sucker Punch."

    Now, I'm pretty new and inexperienced all around, and worry I've missed something, somewhere, but I'm pretty sure Drapion's Dark-type makes Psycho Cut a rather ineffective counter to it. I'm not entirely sure if there are any Poison-types to replace Drapion with in this context, just to keep the sentence mostly as is, but I figure it might at least be worth it to point out inaccurate info and suggestions, even if it's just an example.
  8. Erodent


    Aug 22, 2008
    Understood (choray).
  9. green_flash


    Jul 20, 2006
  10. vashta

    vashta "It was pretty cool to watch Tim Duncan from afar"
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    Aug 3, 2008
    @ green_flash: This has been dealt with, awaiting cache. Thanks.
  11. Steven Snype

    Steven Snype Kunclord Supreme
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    Mar 27, 2009
    Speed tier Correction for OU:


    For + 1 users: It says:

    525 Gengar, Azelf 110 +Speed +1 252
    Azelf is in base 115 category, not base 110. In addition, Scarf Starmie is also a viable set that should not be forgotten. They should be placed above Gengar with:

    541 Azelf, Starmie 115 + Speed +1 252

    is what Azelf's speed tier would say.
  12. tape

    tape i woke up in a new bugatti

    May 24, 2008
    In the Counters section for Aerodactyl there's a typo in the second paragraph.

    Needs to add a space to make it "excellent counters".
  13. Diesel


    Aug 6, 2007
    In the first sentence of Tyranitar's BaitTar set, "mimicing" should be spelled with a 'k'.
  14. TheMantyke

    TheMantyke what if he kicks the ghost
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    Jun 9, 2007

    Under Other Options there's a weird sentence.
    That is should be an are
  15. DDRMaster


    Jun 26, 2008

    In the Tier 0 section of the Ubers Speed Tiers article, it says:

    473 Rayquaza 95 +Speed +1 252

    +1 max speed Jolly Rayquaza actually reaches a speed of 475. (95*2+31+252/4+5=289; 289*1.1=317.9; 317*1.5=475)

    In the Tier 1 section, says:

    379 Heatran 77 +speed None 252

    Heatran actually reaches that speed with a neutral nature and a +1 boost.
  16. TheMantyke

    TheMantyke what if he kicks the ghost
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    Jun 9, 2007
  17. Umbreon Dan

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    Oct 19, 2008

    choice scarf set; second paragraph

    i'm not really sure but i'm guessing it should be:

    Trick is a very important move on this set, as it is Alakazam's best defense against Pokemon with the ability to wall it, such as Blissey or a Skarmory that invests in Special Defense who can wall this set all day.



    first paragraph of the choice band set says "Choice Band Hippowon" so change that to Hippowdon
  18. Wombat Sky Forme

    Wombat Sky Forme

    Jun 6, 2009

    In Parasect's D/P Psychic Spooker set, Blaziken and Honchkrow are listed as counters, however the comments also say three counters where I bolded it.

    I am not sure if it means Parasect, Blaziken, and Honchkrow, or the writer just meant to say of the two or whatever.
  19. Jimbo

    Jimbo take me anywhere
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    Sep 30, 2007
    I'll go change that WSF, thanks
  20. undisputed

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    Aug 16, 2009
    Small typo but I feel like it could be corrected easily. Its the 3rd paragraph of the choice scarf set for Darkrai. There is no period at the end of the last sentence in the paragraph.

    link: http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/darkrai
  21. gvmgvm40


    Jul 20, 2009
    Found a few typoes in the Belly Drum Analysis (http://www.smogon.com/dp/articles/belly_drum):

    Pokémon Effect/Status/Third sentence: "..Paralysis can result in immobilization for a turn, in addition to halving th eSpeed stat of the paralyzed Pokémon.."

    Masters of the Craft/Smeargle/Third paragraph/Second sentence: "...it cannot compete in the lower tiers, and must face some of the most fearome Pokémon in the game"
  22. Umbreon Dan

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    Oct 19, 2008

    bolded comma should be a semicolon or the conjunction "as" should be added after it
  23. gvmgvm40


    Jul 20, 2009
    More typos...


  24. Jimbo

    Jimbo take me anywhere
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    Sep 30, 2007
    I'll go fix those typos, thanks.
  25. eric the espeon

    eric the espeon maybe I just misunderstood
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    Aug 7, 2007
    Several links in the introduction to competitive Pokemon guide are broken, or link to less than ideal places. A few more could be included.

    This sentence:
    Should link to: http://www.smogon.com/ingame/guides/ev_manual

    The link is broken, the breeding guide is now found at: http://www.smogon.com/ingame/guides/breeding_guide_part1

    The shoddy battle section should probably link to: http://www.smogon.com/shoddybattle/

    The Tiers section should probably link to: http://www.smogon.com/articles/tiers as it explains them in much more depth.

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