95x2 = 190.Ice Beam does more damage than 2 Draco Meteors over the course of 2 turns
yes, yes, yesHey, I have a few questions about these guys.
1. Can you merge a Kyurem from Black or White with a Reshiram or Zekrom from Black or White?
2. Can you merge any Kyurem with any Reshiram or Zekrom? (To simplify question #1)
3. Can you merge Kyurem with a Reshiram from a different game in Black 2 or merge Kyurem with a Zekrom from a different game in White 2 (and so get Black or White Kyurem in a different version?
In fact, coyld someone just explain the whole merging thing, please?
From what I've read, it seems that Kyreum W is harder to counter/check than Kyreum B I've been searching for checks to this beast and the best i've found so far is special defensive heatran. I've provided some calcs to prove this.
Naive 252sp.att +lifeorb Draco meteor vs 252sp.def and 252hp, calm heatran= 32.38%-38.08%
Modest 252sp.att +lifeorb Draco meteor vs 252sp.def and 252hp , calm heatran= 35.75%-41.97%
Naive 4att +lifeorb Outrage vs 252sp.def and 252hp, calm heatran= 21.76%-25.65%
Modest 252sp.att choice specs Draco meteor vs 252 sp.def and 252hp, calm heatran= 41.19%-48.45%
Timid 252sp.att choice specs Draco meteor vs 252 sp.def and 252hp, calm heatran= 37.31%-44.3%
As you can see heatran can tank the strongest move in Kyreum Ws movepool and can't even be koed after draco meteor+outrage. Of course heatran can't take earth power without air balloon and focus miss without chople berry. Most Kyreum Ws wont be running focus miss due to fusion flare taking out most steels so air balloon would probably be the most suitable item in this case. What is apparent is that heatran can definetly take on the specs set with good prediction. It can even fight back with dragon pulse or torment to screw up kyreum.
4sp.att, calm dragon pulse vs 0sp.def and 4hp Kyreum= 45.92%-54.59%.
What is even more astounding is that heatran can actually survive a draco meteor+earth power from the life orb set.
252 (-2)sp.att, naive +life orb earth power vs 252sp.def and 252hp heatran= 62.18%-73.58%.
Its a shaky risk to take but, providing minimum damage and at full health, a naive draco meteor+earth power cant ko heatran. I think this calculation alone should make heatran one of the few reliable checks to Kyreum W.
I never said that heatran could check the sub kyreum W set. It can, however continually switch into choiced draco meteors/ice beams. As of the life orb set, heatran requires wish support if kyreum is running earth power, which is where Blissey/chansey come in.Um all heatran can do is take the draco meteor/dragon claw, have its balloon popped, and then proceed to be completely useless for the rest of the match. If kyruem isn't choiced, and puts up a sub on the switch then heatran is dead meat. What can heatran do offensivley to threaten the other team except some gimmicky crap. It'll just set up rocks and die. p
Chansey can stop kyruem-W, at the very least it locks it into outrage and you can switch to a steel.
Modest specs kyurem-w does 41.2%-48.4% with dmeteor... meaning heatran cannot repeatedly switch in...I never said that heatran could check the sub kyreum W set. It can, however continually switch into choiced draco meteors/ice beams. As of the life orb set, heatran requires wish support if kyreum is running earth power, which is where Blissey/chansey come in.
It can switch in twice to a modest specs draco meteor from a 170sp.att stat. Thats pretty good considering. Pair heatran up with chansey/blissey with wish support and heatran can switch in all day to draco meteor and fusion flare. Chansey is, however the best check to the specs set. I would say heatran best counters the mixed set.I never comment usually but I just wanna say that I'm pretty happy the title of strongest outrage no longer belongs to an NFE... I mean come on! With crap like rayquaza and zekrom running around in ubers it was still zweilous way down in NU that got the title?
BTW if someone has already said this I will commit cyber-suicide....
Modest specs kyurem-w does 41.2%-48.4% with dmeteor... meaning heatran cannot repeatedly switch in...
Wait.... a one time STAB Ice move is decent? That's actually pretty terrible, considering that Freeze Shock then becomes a wasted move slot afterwards.Power Herb Freeze Shock Kyurem-B is actually decent.
Just saying, but its near impossible to keep Rocks off the field. The spinblockers (gira-a / o, Arceus Ghost) will prevent spinning for almost all the match and most of the common SR users (dialga, ttar, groudon) are more then capable of muscling through Xatu and Espeon. Well unless Groudon's running support don set and Xatu has reflect. Also the idea of using a magic bounce poke with Kyurem is actually quite interesting, but what bothers me is the terrible synergy issues created with it. Psychic Flying and Dragon Ice, offer few valuable useful resistance when used in conjunction (barring Ground, and Kyurem's defenses aren't exactly high enough to stomach hits without tons of investment)... A spinner might work and it offers better synergy but considering how (un)reliable spinning is...Then keep hazards off the field. Why not do so when Multiscale Lugia walls almost the entire tier with Stealth Rock off the field?
There are no good rapid spinners.Then keep hazards off the field. Why not do so when Multiscale Lugia walls almost the entire tier with Stealth Rock off the field?
Off topic, but now that Mold Breaker is released, Excadrill can just nail Giratina-O with Earthquake since it does more damage considering STAB.Excadrill works well as rapid spinner in ubers. It actually beats Giratina-O 1-on-1 with Shadow Claw. It also has good synergy with Lugia (and Kyurem to an extent, though they share a fighting weakness).
Black Kyurem Freeze Shock won't even scatch FerrothornRayquaza does not have the strongest Outrage, when refering to "strongest", the word "unboostesd" is always implied.
Freeze Shock isn't useless. Its applications have been accurately described in this topic. Very situational, but not useless. It's only a little less powerful than 2 Ice Punches.
Kyurem-B's Ice Beam won't even scratch Ferrothorn.
Even with hazards out, Kyurem can switch on most 90 base speed ubers in the tier and force you into choosing which pokemon you're going to lose. If it this happens, then it has done its purpose. Kyurem wasn't meant to sweep teams by itself, but if it manages to come in and the user isn't an idiot, something in your team is going down period.
Excadrill works well as rapid spinner in ubers. It actually beats Giratina-O 1-on-1 with Shadow Claw. It also has good synergy with Lugia (and Kyurem to an extent, though they share a fighting weakness).