then its not a good team and should be adjusted accordingly?
...Did you not read what I said? If no actual solid counter exists, it doesn't matter how good the team is. No amount of adjusting will change the fact that it still comes down to prediction.
So if there's no pure counter to a Pokemon its should be tested?
No. If there's no way to reliably beat even a
known set other than through being a better predicter/revenge killing, then it's a sign that the Pokemon may be a suspect. In other words, if a Pokemon can beat any Pokemon on your team with just one set if you don't predict right and make just the right move, then it quite possibly fulfills the Offensive Criteria and should be tested.
Scizor- U-Turns all the time, no counter because of that, SUSPECT
U-turn doesn't allow Scizor itself to beat much of anything. It's just switching to another Pokemon to handle the threat it's faced with. It doesn't change the fact that Scizor itself couldn't beat the threat it was faced with and needed to switch via U-turn and thus isn't a suspect.
In other words, U-turn being on or being absent on a Scizor set doesn't change the fact that the same Pokemon still handle it, so it doesn't affect whehter it's a suspect or not.
Lucario- Too versatile, doesn't use SD all the time, SUSPECT
It's versatile, but regardless of that, no matter what it's set is, short of throwing on a Scarf (and if it does, then that set has it's own problems), it ain't beating Gliscor. Unlike Mence, if you know the set, this thing's beatable.
Infernape- could be SD, could be Mixed, could be CB, can do a hell of a lot of things, SUSPECT
Same as above. Each set has it's own counters and things that stop it cold. With Mence though, even if you know the set, DD/Outrage/EQ/FB @ Life Orb could still beat you. Infernape has to rely on different sets to beat different Pokemon, so I don't feel it to be a suspect. Mence however only needs one to take out poentially anything in OU, and that's why I feel it to be a suspect.
Not really, and it's besides the point anyway. Whether those Pokemon actually do deserve a test or not does not affect whether or not Mence deserves one.
Furthermore, let's take a look at what made Garchomp a suspect and eventually Uber- there had to be one of very few certain Pokemon on a team just to be sure that Garchomp was taken out. It couldn't be any other Pokemon. I don't see that issue for Mence, (again see plethora of options above) since it has several answers that can take it down.
To me, I see a very similar situation. I mean, Scizor or Scarftran can try coming in on what they believe to be a predictable DD, but end up being destroyed by Fire Blast/EQ respectively. If you predicted right, they may have worked against Mence, but it's basically a gamble. And just like with Garchomp, Mence does that with only one set. I'm not talking about a variety of sets like Lucario or Ape need to pick off various Pokemon, but just one set.
@Alex_Dino: I don't agree with the notion, because of what I've already mentioned:
Obviously though, that's not a good mindset to go with. If Pokemon are broken, they should be banned, regardless of the effect that has on other Pokemon. A stable metagame will be reached, and will definitely be reached before getting down to just Caterpie andWeedle or whatever.
And besides, we don't even know what will happen with Mence gone. It's quite possible that there won't be any new suspects at all, and the metagame will be healthier for it. That's why we're just talking about atestright now. We aren't going to just jump right into banning it. That of course wouldn't be a wise move. Thus, the suspect test process. Until we do a test, we don't know anything either way about the resulting metagame. All we have is theorymon, and that doesn't get anyone anywhere
We haven't even seen what these meta-games are like yet. How can you be so sure that there would be anything at all that we would find ban-worthy by Salamance's removal? It's quite possible we won't. Thus, we shouldn't be concerned by some future maybes for now, and should focus just on Salamance.
If Salamance is banned, and we do wind up somehow banning 100 Pokemon by continuing to go down that road, then we'll cross that road before we come to it, and it will be done long before 100 Pokemon are actually banned. After all, we can always return to "default" on this if need be. However, for now, Salamance is the focus, and we should judge it on its own merits: if it breaks one of the three characteristics, ban it, and if not, leave it. Keeping it OU even if it is broken just on some slippery slope of a maybe on what could happen if we don't, and just having to "deal" with a broken suspect due to those maybes isn't something I can find myself agreeing with, though.
EDIT:
Let's see... Steels can switch in safely on Outrage, Heatran on Fire Blast, Latias on EQ or Fire Blast or Brick Break/Roost, etc. Nothing else should switch in on Mence because it would be idiotic to do so
Problem is though, you can't be assured that that will be the move that they'll be switching in on (even if you're positive of the moveset, that one moveset, just like Chomp's SD/EQ/Outrage/FF, could still end up beating any of them), and thus none of them are reliable. They're all maybes at best, as you're relying on nothing more than a "maybe" for your entry-pass.