I kinda wanted to address this. No harm intended here so hopefully I don't get anyone mad off stuff I didn't say or mean.
I will be flamed for this but whatev its just an opinion. Will be voting No Ban. While I agree that Shed is a nuisance this gen due to the flexibility of it's item slot potentially enabling it to circumvent some form of dealing with it (Boots with hazards, Ppads with anti-contact moves, and sometimes Goggles for weather residual damage), I still feel that Shed can't always perform it's role as a catch all check to many wallbreakers / defensive mons that people make it out to be. A lot of teams carry means to deal with Shed nowadays, and I feel this gen the importance of checking Shed is set to a higher importance due to the decreased power creep compared to previous gens. Whether it be through the moldy moves, Koff + Hazards, status, weather, etc, Shed will always face some form of potential counterplay one way or another despite the item it carries. This may fall in line with a level of over-centralization of course, but from what I can gather thus far, I feel Shed just offers another precaution in the teambuilding phase no different from other threats such as Zekrom, Zacian-C, Darmanitan-G, and other miscellaneous threats, one that requires even more risk to run given the nature of it's fragility. Albeit, having a great payoff if used carefully, I still feel Shed provides a competitive aspect to the tier that differs from the notion of it being a "braindead" addition to any team as one does need to build around it moreso then most "offensive wallbreakers / pivots" in the tier imo.
Now I will proceed to crawl in my hole as the rocks come flying my way lol.
edit: team i used cause i wanna be like the cool kids: https://pokepast.es/7db176ac6ca17cf8
If you have questions about BH, you can post them here or in the OM Index. If you have bug reports, you can post them in the bug reports thread. Late, but welcome to Smogon!Quick question. If we have questions about BH or bug reports and stuff, do we post them here? Sorry I'm just kinda confused.
The return of Zacian-C spam? 2 Zamazenta-Cs on half of teams? I've prodded the research thread for confirmation simply because it'll completely shake up BH all over again.24 days into January. I got some news
So as it turns out, there's been a sudden change in the metagame.
The statement above is outdated. Zacian and Zamazenta in their crowned formes have recently been proven usable without any item or ability restrictions! Cheers, we can do more with these formes!
It's also boosted by Tough Claws for some reason, despite Bulbapedia not listing it as being affected by the ability.I know everyone is talking about Zacian now but I'd also like to request a quickban for Double Iron Bash. Game Freak was smoking Mario mushrooms when making the move. It is uncompetitive and doesn't even need a suspect test.
I don't see why it wouldn't. Red Orb Groudon is a thing. I would think Rusted Sword (or maybe Intrepid Sword) would get suspected if Rusted Sword Zacian was overpowered. Not to mention a complete ban on Zacian-C, both freed and limited, would probably be a lot less popular at this point and have a lot less support from the community.To clarify, if Zac-C were banned would it still be allowed with Rusted Sword and Intrepid Sword like it was earlier?